Tuesday, January 23, 2007

Geography and Philosophy

Some say that mankind is destroying the earth and I don't buy it. Not to underplay the destructive practices of the human population, but these powers are limited. Growth, decay, death, and renewal are going on continuously and nothing mere humans can do will stop it.
Three quarters of the planet is ocean, 95% unexplored. There are vast regions still uninhabited by man, such as the one above; the Badlands at the foot of the Tian Chan in China.
They could use a surveyor.
Truth is simply a proposition in which the predicate is contained in the subject. The predicate is what is asserted; the subject is what the assertion is about.
Gottfried Wilhem Leibniz
Photograph by Galen Powell.


Blogger Neith said...

I believe this is essentially correct. However, I also believe it is in humankind's best interest to be more respectful of their beautiful dwelling place . . . That is why I keep doing my Merc in Scorp thing, being tenacious (or just flat out stubborn, depends on how one looks at it!) and asking folks to view Capricorn as the sign that deeply respects & appreciates the Earth - mountains, woodlands & oceans.

Did you see that news flash on serious worshipers of Zeus performing ceremonies in Greece?! Maybe they're on to something . . :-)

23/1/07 10:25 AM  
Blogger jm said...

No, I didn't see the flash yet.
I'm with you on Capricorn, as you well know.

23/1/07 3:07 PM  
Anonymous juju said...

After many frustrating days of dealing with tech support people for three different issues, I decided today to confront my issues with time. And today, at last, beginning with coffee in bed and counting the magpies out my window, in both German and English, and then like the Count on Sesame Street, I have, somehow had enough time. Appropriately, today the book -- was it Neith or Tseka who suggested it -- about dealing with time -- arrived in the mail -- it took its time getting here and arrived on the perfect day. And in the New York Times Natalie Angier has a brand new column, and of course today's subject is time. And so jm reminds us of cosmic time, and neith reminds of ancient mythical time. And now its time for me to get to work...

23/1/07 3:15 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Juju, that is hysterical! You have such a wonderful sense of humor.

I decided today to confront my issues with time. And today, at last, beginning with coffee in bed and counting the magpies out my window, in both German and English, and then like the Count on Sesame Street.

I love the Count!

And so jm reminds us of cosmic time, and neith reminds of ancient mythical time.

Beautifully phrased. I'm so glad you took a "moment" to reflect and speak.

I have, somehow had enough time.

23/1/07 3:28 PM  
Anonymous juju said...

I'm glad you love the Count too. Peter, being German, hadn't had the pleasure of his acquaintance, so I did my best transylvanian impression.

23/1/07 3:33 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Oh he must have loved it! German is oddly amusing. My man used to speak his fractured German quite often and it was so funny I could hardly stand it.

We both use to watch the Count with glee.
My mother was Hungarian, by the way, and she also fractured pronunciation in a way that kept the children laughing forever. We still do impressions of her.

23/1/07 3:41 PM  
Blogger jm said...

She had one expression for every emotion. It went something like this...

Very stretched out and loud. Covered every event.

It was actually a condensation of "yoi ishtanem" (phonetic).

23/1/07 3:44 PM  
Anonymous Juju said...

My father's best friend was Hungarian and I had a 6'5" Hungarian boyfriend (one side of whose family was from Transylvania before it was Romanian) for some years, and Peter has a good half-Hungarian friend. I've always been drawn to Hungarians and things Hungarian. Maybe why I so enjoy your company.

23/1/07 3:48 PM  
Blogger jm said...

That is fascinating juju. I have many tales to tell you. My mother was intriguing. Riveting. I have a picture to show you when I see you that you will love.

You would have loved her and her two sisters. In fact, your style is reminiscent.

There's one thing they say about Hungarians:

They aren't happy unless they're crying".

The family was on a high emotional pitch at all times, and I can't imagine what a dull quiet homelife is like.
My mother came from an intellectual family but she had a hocus pocus something in her and I'm convinced there were gypsy genes in there.

I remember when my husband's mother was in the hospital amd my mother said in pure Transylvanian:

"She Vill die".

Well I was used to her predictions by then, and she didn't, but still a shockwave goes through everytime.

23/1/07 3:58 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I think they do have a heightened sense of drama and maybe your Leo likes this. Also there is a serious somber edge to all the hilarity which fits the other parts of your personality.

They all had the deep philosophical angst of the Eastern European but with song, dance, and joy blended in.

Sundays were opera at full tilt in the house...worse than a teenager and rock 'n roll...all the while doing the NYT crossword puzzle.

23/1/07 4:07 PM  
Anonymous Juju said...

I'd love to see a picture of your mother. She sounds fascinating. My boyfriend had aunts he said were witches, or maybe they said they were -- anyhow, he was sort of anti-hocus-pocus too. He was older than me, and escaped when the Soviets were still in control -- was allowed out of the country for a rowing competition and escaped. He has since moved back to Europe.
Hungarians seem to be such a mixed bunch of people to me. Very hard to categorize.

23/1/07 4:10 PM  
Blogger jm said...

My mother was also very anti hocus-pocus in word. But she was exceptionally intuitive. I haven't really studied the culture but I think I will. I think there is southern influence. Mediterranean.

Hungary is eclipsed it seems by the greater powers around. It's absolutely fascinating how cultures arise in their unique ways due to so many unseen factors.

It would take lifetimes to learn. I hope I get them.:-)

Interesting that your lover moved back.

23/1/07 4:19 PM  
Blogger jm said...

There seems to be a sort of dark shadow in these people, although the religious and ethnic details might vary. My father's family came from Lithuania and they were like sunshine in contrast, although many of the values were the same and traditions they were raised with.
It could be just the families, but I will look into it. I almost became an anthropologist. It is so incredible, the individuation of peoples.

23/1/07 4:24 PM  
Anonymous Joe said...

Thought I'd share that ever since Moon in Cap a few days ago, I've been a busy little Scorp. A fit of responsibility (not that I'm not already) descended on me and I've been getting my finances even more squared away than I usually do. I'm feeling the urge to sock away as much money in the bank as I can. I'm not expecting doom'n'gloom, so much as the need to squirrel away funds for a rainy day.
So it was nice to research Cap qualities more in-depth and find that I'm doing exactly what Cap would recommend. :o)

Interesting thread on Hungarians, too, btw!

23/1/07 4:41 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I noticed you'd disappeared, which you always do in a rhythm. I wonder if it can be calculated. Probably steady as a metronome.

It's wonderful to get good reports from the field on the Capricorn energy. This supports neith's crusade to find the value. It seems to be getting easier to utilize the good stuff.

23/1/07 4:48 PM  
Anonymous Juju said...

I agree with the dark shadow aspect -- at least I've seen it in the Hungarians I've met. And you are right -- the contrast between or mixture of the dark and the lightness probably draws me right in. My father's family was also from Lithuania BTW.

And like Joe, I've been trying to organize finances and stuff.

23/1/07 4:52 PM  
Anonymous Joe said...

Well, we'll see if I disappear like the Moon in about 26 more days. :o) Or whether the cycle is greater or smaller than that. I was just taking it easy this past weekend, in between fits of Cap practicality. I organized my bills, threw away outdated files, and then sat around watching TV which I hardly ever do.

It sure is something how we are influenced and moved by these cosmic forces.

23/1/07 4:55 PM  
Anonymous Joe said...

Hi juju! *waves* Didn't mean to sidetrack this interesting discussion. Do carry on. :o)

23/1/07 4:56 PM  
Blogger jm said...

You both have Cap Moons. The Moon is the sqirreling away. Capricorn is odd sometimes with money.

My Cap girlfriend is always well employed, but she used to keep her apartment like a deep freeze to save on fuel bills. Single too. They'll spend a fortune on stereo equipment, but endure physical discomfort to the extreme in many cases. That's part of the Saturn punishment, I think. Always tickles me.

I got the dark/light mix in me and it causes confusion sometimes. My mother and her Hungarian tragedy led me to sad emotional music stylewise, but my Dad and I used to listen to pop music and dance. One of our favorte albums was Mixing Drinks and Music.
Well, my mother did that but not the kind of music we liked!

23/1/07 5:03 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Joe! Are you suffering from Capricorn guilt? What have you done? No you'd better not!

You didn't sidetrack at all. I don't think you could..:-)
It's called adding energy.

23/1/07 5:05 PM  
Blogger jm said...

It sure is something how we are influenced and moved by these cosmic forces.

OMG. Do I love hearing this. It's a dance. This is why metaphysics is my most loved interest of all. It never lets me down.
The more I try to coordinate with the cosmic forces, the more grace and rhythm I enjoy in my life.

Capricorn is organization to the max. Just imagine what will happen to this country and all Capricorn natives coming right up.

23/1/07 5:08 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Donnie, my love.

Great news about the eyes. Lots to cover soon. The waiting/pulling is so hard, but all worth it. Nothing like life coming home. Always an awakening. You are doing so well. I'm proud.

23/1/07 6:44 PM  
Anonymous Joe said...

Anyone watch the State of the Union and/or Senator Jim Webb's response?

Webb used diplomatic language to call bullshit on Bush's policies and warmongering. I didn't hear everything I wanted to hear, but it was a start. It was like water after a desert journey.

23/1/07 7:34 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Joe this is fantastic. Thanks for posting the info. Webb is going to be a strong player. He's unafraid.

I did notice the Saturn in Leo dimishing of his ego and false stature. it will be done by August when Saturn goes into Virgo. People like Webb will get bigger and bigger. Webb is very popular with the people.

Water in he desert is a good way of putting it!

23/1/07 9:35 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I got a deep wonderful feeling of well-being tonight. It started with yesterday's sunset, reminding me of the one right before the election of the Democratic Congress.

Something is up that I haven't quite put my finger on yet. Of course, the Aries Moon helps. But a benificent breeze is coming through. I think it will last for awhile.

23/1/07 9:47 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The diminishing mentioned above was in reference to our lost pathetic leader.

23/1/07 9:48 PM  
Blogger Neith said...

I didn't watch fearless leader but did catch Jim Webb's response. It was very, very good - and I felt him to be an excellent choice to do the rebuttal.

BTW - did the foot/hand thing . . . not gracefully, mind you, but successfully. :-)

23/1/07 10:05 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Yay neith!!!!!

We are something under this expert tutelage.

Now as Neptune comes back to Saturn leaving Leo, the image of this leader will finish disintegrating. The image left after last nite has not sunk in yet, but it will now.

The new people are arising. It's not the individuals but what they represent....hard, serious workers, and even a touch of the real job of public servant, with saturn coming into Virgo and Pluto in Cap. It's coming in now. Real people actually working. I also suspect that Pluto in Sagittarius will leave a tiny bit of something genuine behind.

24/1/07 5:52 AM  
Blogger jm said...

Webb was given a speech to read by the Democratic leadership. He threw it out and wrote his own.

The great thing behind this event is that people finally, FINALLY turned away from the hate of the main act to a new player. Like amoebas to a new stimulus.

24/1/07 6:45 AM  
Anonymous -pd- said...

joe and jm,
your comments about W and Webb remind me of a hilarious item someone sent me: photos of W at his desk and looking absolutely clueless, and of Rep. Rangel (D-NY), along with Rangel's response to the question of what he thought of W: "I think he dispels the myth of white superiority."

25/1/07 6:48 AM  
Blogger jm said...

Thanks pd!! We do so need humor to keep up the spirits. What a whipping this inferior specimen has taken! Lots of punishment all the way around. People seem to enjoy that. Who am I to interfere?...:-)

25/1/07 1:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have you seen the documentary Manufactured Landscapes?

12/3/07 2:24 AM  

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