Neptune Has Gone Direct!
Now that Neptune has see-sawed with Saturn and encountered some weight and presence, I'm looking forward to seeing what he has in mind. I think he means business.
He can be mighty.
Some say equal in strength to Brother Zeus.
I'm in love with Neptune so any direction is fine with me.
posted by jm at 3:40 AM
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I'm rather fond of Neptune myself.
Look how beautiful he is:
http://images.google.com/images?q=Neptune+photos&hl=en&lr=&sa=X&oi=images&ct=title
Those are all my favorite colors.
When it's not always raining there'll be days like this
When there's no one complaining there'll be days like this
When everything falls into place like the flick of a switch
Well my mama told me there'll be days like this
When you don't need to worry there'll be days like this
When no one's in a hurry there'll be days like this
When you don't get betrayed by that old Judas kiss
Oh my mama told me there'll be days like this
When you don't need an answer there'll be days like this
When you don't meet a chancer there'll be days like this
When all the parts of the puzzle start to look like they fit
Then I must remember there'll be days like this
When everyone is up front and they're not playing tricks
When you don't have no freeloaders out to get their kicks
When it's nobody's business the way that you wanna live
I just have to remember there'll be days like this
When no one steps on my dreams there'll be days like this
When people understand what I mean there'll be days like this
When you ring out the changes of how everything is
Well my mama told me there'll be days like this
Oh my mama told me
There'll be days like this
Oh my mama told me
There'll be days like this
Oh my mama told me
There'll be days like this
Oh my mama told me
There'll be days like this
Very alluring! No wonder they named it Neptune.
I just read: "Most of what is known about Neptune is the result of the flyby of the planet by the Voyager 2 spacecraft in August 1989." Coincidentally, it was conjunction time again, though not as exact as when discovered.
I wonder what some of the other sea deities were like?
Well, this is interesting!
The sea was of great importance to ancient Greeks, thus they had many ancient sea deities. "The range of Greek sea gods of the classical era range from primordial powers and an Olympian on the one hand, to heroized mortals, chthonic nymphs, trickster-figures, and monsters on the other." [from Wikipedia, "Greek sea gods"] Many were seen as an Old Man whose many children were either lovely nymphs or fearsome sea monsters.
"The tantalizing figure of the halios geron has been a favorite of scholarship. The Old Men have been seen as everything from survivals of old Aegean gods who presided over the waves before Poseidon (Kerenyi) to embodiments of archaic speculation on the relation of truth to cunning intelligence (Detienne).
..."Each one is a shape-shifter, a prophet, and the father of either radiantly beautiful nymphs or hideous monsters. Nymphs and monsters blur, for Hesiod relates that Phorcys was wed to the 'beautiful-cheeked' Ceto, whose name is merely the feminine of the monstrous Cetus, to whom Andromeda was due to be sacrificed." [Wikipedia]
"Cunning intelligence"?
From Detienne's facinating Cunning Intelligence in Greek Culture and Society: "There is no doubt that mêtis is a type of intelligence and of thought, a way of knowing; it implies a complex but very coherent body of mental attitudes and intellectual behaviour which combine flair, wisdom, forethought, subtlety of mind, deception, resourcefulness, vigilance, opportunism, various skills, and experience acquired over the years. It is applied to situations which are transient, shifting, disconcerting and ambiguous, situations which do not lend themselves to precise measurement, exact calculation or rigorous logic.
...Given the features and modes of behaviour that characterise it, the fields in which it operates, the stratagems it employs, to reverse the rules accepted in a trial of strength, mêtis does indeed appear fully to represent the Greek concept of one particular type of intelligence. It is an intelligence which, instead of contemplating unchanging essences, is directly involved in the difficulties of practical life with all its risks, confronted with a world of hostile forces which are disturbing because they are always changing and ambiguous. Mêtis — intelligence which operates in the world of becoming, in circumstances of conflict — takes the form of an ability to deal with whatever comes up, drawing on certain intellectual qualities: forethought perspicacity, quickness and acuteness of understanding, trickery, and even deceit. But these qualities bring into play the weapons which are their own particular attribute: elusiveness and duplicity, like spells which they use to oppose brute force. A being of mêtis slips through its adversary’s fingers like running water. It is so supple as to be polymorphic; like a trap, it is the opposite of what it seems to be. It is ambiguous, inverted, and operates through a process of reversal.
...This is a cunning intelligence for which hunting and fishing may originally have provided the model but which extends far beyond this framework as the figure of Odysseus, the human embodiment of mêtis in Homer, clearly shows. There are many activities in which man must learn to manipulate hostile forces too powerful to be controlled directly but which can be exploited despite themselves, without ever being confronted head on, to implement the plan in mind by some unexpected, devious means: they include, for example, the stratagems used by the warrior the success of whose attack hinges on surprise, trickery or ambush, the art of the pilot steering his ship against winds and tides, the verbal ploys of the sophist making the adversary’s powerful argument recoil against him, the skill of the banker and the merchant who, like conjurors, make a great deal of money out of nothing, the knowing forethought of the politician whose flair enables him to assess the uncertain course of events in advance, and the sleights of hand and trade secrets which give craftsmen their control over material which is always more or less intractable to their designs. It is over all such activities that mêtis presides."
"I'm in love with Neptune so any direction is fine with me."
"In any way" seems to be his forte. Some watery terms like solvency might be nice, though, while he's at it. Perhaps he can show us more ways to make a great deal from nothing like the above mentioned conjurors can make. :-)
Thanks Casey for the beautiful photos and the song.
I'm having the other kind of day, starting to feel slightly depressed about being ill. I'm going to try both the Hepa filter and the echinatia (I can't spell today either). Thank you Tseska.
And really interesting stuff about Metis, Kad. I had a wise friend who used to talk about Metis years ago. But I never associated it with running water -- it makes perfect sense that way.
Metis meant cunning or skill in ancient Greek. Metis was also the goddess of wise counsel and deep thought, the first wife of Zeus and his equal. "Metis was born of Oceanus and Tethys [sea deities], of an earlier age than Zeus and his siblings."
Athena was their first child in a bizarre way.
The prophesy was that Metis' children would be powerful, and the second child would be a son who would overthrow Zeus.
So Zeus tricked Metis into becoming a fly, and he swallowed her. (So now we know why, Zeus swallowed the fly.)
Weirdly, the story continues that Metis started weaving a robe and hammering a helmet for her child. This gave Zeus a terrible headache (although apparently not indigestion). Eventually, someone hit Zeus on the noggin by the river Triton, whereupon Athena popped out of his head, full grown, with sword, shield, and wearing full battle armor. She sure knows the wisdom of being prepared for the worst.
"Athena was the goddess of civilization, specifically wisdom, weaving, crafts, and war. Athena's wisdom encompasses the technical knowledge employed in weaving, metal-working, and war, but also includes the cunning intelligence (metis) of such trickster figures as Odysseus."
The wife more familiar to us, Hera, seems to be a "great goddess" figure of pre-Greek or non-Greek origin.
Gee, they never told us any of the juicy details in school.
Gee, they never told us any of the juicy details in school.
No kidding! Though sometimes a person could find the "good stuff" in a decent public library. The internet offers so many more opportunities to learn maybe more than we want to know . . . probably a good thing I have no children to worry about. Today's kids are so much more sophisticated than those of us from the 50's & 60's.
Coincidentally, it was conjunction time again, though not as exact as when discovered.
The plot thickens. Very interesting with this juxtaposition with Saturn. Adds significance. Maybe Nep needs Saturn's clarification.
I feel an especially powerful chord being plucked with this transit.
"sometimes a person could find the 'good stuff' in a decent public library."
I used to wonder why nobody ever stopped us from going into the grown up section of the library. It was labeled "Adult".
"The tantalizing figure of the halios geron has been a favorite of scholarship. The Old Men have been seen as everything from survivals of old Aegean gods who presided over the waves before Poseidon (Kerenyi) to embodiments of archaic speculation on the relation of truth to cunning intelligence.
THIS is it for me. The relationship with truth. Neptune is known for lack of interest in ordinary truth. So there is some reason for the illusions, deceptions, etc. that leads the cunning mind to other discoveries. This interests me very much. Storytelling is really based on a distortion of ordinary truth/fact.
OMG! I just heard a political ad that called the Democratic guy running for Tom DeLay's old seat evil! They practically called him a pedophile! Is there no low those people will stoop to?
And it's a write-in candidate because the Republicans couldn't change DeLay's name off the ballot after the primaries.
Okay, they're making me mad now.
Liars!
And, ummm, Kad? That was totally an interesting and fascinating post. I like it...metis. It's MATURE intelligence.
intelligence which operates in the world of becoming, in circumstances of conflict — takes the form of an ability to deal with whatever comes up, drawing on certain intellectual qualities: forethought perspicacity, quickness and acuteness of understanding, trickery, and even deceit. But these qualities bring into play the weapons which are their own particular attribute: elusiveness and duplicity, like spells which they use to oppose brute force.
Ahhh....getting there. This is fascinating.
There are many activities in which man must learn to manipulate hostile forces too powerful to be controlled directly but which can be exploited despite themselves, without ever being confronted head on, to implement the plan in mind by some unexpected, devious means:
I an particularly interested in this since I am an Aries rising with a Mars/Nep conjunction. I know about all kind of alternative routes in dealing with conflict, exacerbated by my tiny frame, 5 feet tall.
All the examples you mention lead to Neptune's job of fracturing the straight predictable line. Essential to the artist.
devious
Not necessarily bad. Just not the norm...swerving from the straight.
This is a fascinating moment now that Nep has gone direct with Saturn at this moment. When we might see where we are for a minute after all this deception, deviation, and all.
Oh, yeah, they called him "evil" because he doesn't oppose violent video games.
Not because he's like Foley.
I'm not FOR violent video games. I just think it isn't the biggest issue we have out there.
Casey
Is there no low those people will stoop to?
Metis(it's MATURE intelligence) will answer that query.
Perhaps he can show us more ways to make a great deal from nothing like the above mentioned conjurors can make. :-)
Absolutely. And conversely make nothing out of their great deals! Terror begone, for example.
I certainly do like this metis subject.
I have always been etranced with the story of Athene's birth and she is one of my favorite figures.
Thanks Kadi.
I always think of the ocean and the refraction of light. How totally it changes perception as beneath the surface a completely different world opens up. I think Neptune does this in our minds, so then we are susceptible to the trickery as well as the other worldly grace and beauty. Actually the trickery is part of it. Now that Saturn is there all people will probably notice something is amiss here. Two and two aren't making four. How the individual reaction translates to collective behavior will be interesting.
Neptune is behind the voting fraud and the change in direction with saturn might not bode well for this. What if the trickery went in reverse?
"I like it...metis. It's MATURE intelligence."
I am just amazed how much richer the depictions can get if we scratch the surface using the Web.
"What if the trickery went in reverse?"
Well, there are a number of exploits published for various models of electronic voting machine. It's been suggested that someone ought to make Bugs Bunny the winning candidate in a few precincts.
I read last night about the guy, Clyde William Tombaugh, who at age 24 discovered the planet Pluto. He later helped found a Unitarian Universalist church.
Pluto had no really close major aspects on the official date (Februrary 18, 1930), though Saturn was in the opposite sign. Some close minor aspects to Venus and Neptune. But the process of discovery spanned weeks; he knew exactly what he was doing.
Intriguingly, the Moon was exactly conjunct Pluto sometime during his day of birth (February 4, 1906) and possibly trine to a Sun-Venus conjunction. I haven't come across an exact time of birth, though.
Ack...gotta run! My Web applications server is suddenly dying. Clients are calling to complain.
I am just amazed how much richer the depictions can get if we scratch the surface using the Web.
You can see the whole thing. Neptune in Aquarius now.
The Web is the universal Uranian teletype of the mind. Central switchboard. Neptune is there now taking us to this place below the surface and the wise among us are taking full advantage of this opportunity.
While some are using powers of negative persuasion with this configuration, others are going to new depths and enlightenments, not to mention brotherhood. It all goes together and we make our choices.
Bugs Bunny the winning candidate in a few precincts.
Bugs would be great!
But I also would vote for Goofy or Mighty Mouse.
Or Donald Duck's Uncle, I forget his name.
I never know what a new day will bring and today I'm surprised.
Neptune has always been an entity of sublime grace for me, and Jupiter as well in a different way.
Pluto is just about to move from the 4 month station at 24 degrees. With this Neptune turn I see already the grace being manifest in many of the feelings expressed on our blogs. An extra perception. It doesn't matter what the lowlifes are doing. They'll do it anyway. But the ones who have their sensory transmitters in high gear can pick up the waves and send them into society at this tense moment. Every infinitesimal effort works.
Oh I love Neptune.
Juju. A friend of mine goes to a wonderful naturopath in your hometown. Her name is Johanna Reilley(spelling?).
One more thing juju. Patience is what you need now, and you have that.
Saturn is only a few days from an exact conjunction with your Sun, notorious for brooding, low vitality, and illness. Some despair.
There is good reason for the slowdown. Saturn rules your 4th house of home and family and so the problems. There is probably frustration around not achieving the goals you want just yet. But now is not the time. And your 11th house Sun is about the future that might have a slight shadow on it now. It will pass. It's a good time for introspection and planning. Reworking technique.
Saturn will be there for the month of November and then will move on and lighten the load somewhat. He'll be back though in the spring and finally will go midsummer. The exact hits can be relentless, with no letup in the sqeeze, but the grip will loosen. It will tighten and loosen until the transit is over and you will be more clear about how to proceed. Much more. But now is a sort of standstill. The discomfort comes from trying to get out of the grip prematurely.
I always think of the ocean and the refraction of light. How totally it changes perception as beneath the surface a completely different world opens up.
Now this is a favorite subject of mine . . . how you can put a stick in still water and it appears the above water part is not congruent w/the below water part. I've always felt Neptune does this to the way we perceive others & the world around us. Awareness of the difference is something good actors use all the time, as well as good cons . . .
The Web is the universal Uranian teletype of the mind. Central switchboard.
Love this, jm!! And, BTW, good to see you back throwing off sparks & leading us all into the most interesting places.... :-)
I DO love exotic places neith!
how you can put a stick in still water and it appears the above water part is not congruent w/the below water part. I've always felt Neptune does this to the way we perceive others & the world around us.
Yes. It fractures the linear and our perceptions. I have that Mercury/Neptune square too so I've never seen otherwise.
The Web is revealing the multifaceted nature of these energies. You can see the wild spread of paranoia when one little thing occurs and then on the other side, lovers of knowledge like kadimiros dipping into the Neptune/Aquarius waters with relish to retrieve more information than could be gathered otherwise.
It's the instant sharing that is the new development and brings many of us so much joy.
Each one is a shape-shifter, a prophet
One of my favorites of the sea gods is Proteus.
He can foretell the future, but, in a mytheme familiar from several cultures, will change his shape to avoid having to; he will answer only to someone who is capable of capturing him. From this feature of Proteus comes the adjective protean, with the general meaning of "versatile", "mutable", "capable of assuming many forms": "Protean" has positive connotations of flexibility, versatility and adaptablity.
I find it curious that he avoids telling the future. He answers to those who can capture him but I don't think anyone can. I wonder what purpose his knowledge serves.
The slipping out of one's grasp is a large part of the sea symbolism.
But now Saturn is trying, I think, to give it a form to grasp.
I love it when I can connect an obscure word with its origins, such as with Proteus and protean. :o)
how you can put a stick in still water and it appears the above water part is not congruent w/the below water part.
Funny you should say that. Refraction. That's what I'm the absolute master of...my whole career is involved solely with that one principle. I'm the "refraction statics expert." Every introduction at work uses that phase.
Of COURSE, it's a Neptune thing.lol.
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