Friday, December 14, 2007

Sparked into Life

"There's a time when the whole lifetime has enough charge that it jumps state."
Mpk
"I think the outer planets do that when people meet them personally. The boundary is crossed after Saturn but one has to be ready so as not to fly apart."
Jm
I attended an annual party I've been going to for 17 years. In the beginning they were gala affairs with glittering women, elegant men, a sumptuous buffet, spirits, music, dancing, and most of all -- enthusiasm.
Gradually they became smaller and now, just a handful attends. The thrill has vanished.
I got to thinking this might be symbolic of the changes in society as depression grew to the extreme it has arrived at now with obesity climbing to gargantuan proportions since the 1980s and antidepressant drugs as common as cough syrup. For the first time the weight increase is declining and there seems to be a growing realization that a healthy, reasonably happy life is within the human spectrum of experience. Money has not fulfilled its promise in this wildly prosperous country.
I'm thinking that as the earth travels into the Uranian times, there's opportunity for a jump start. A juicing of the collective synapses and circuitry, a favorite activity of Uranus, and a step further into the pulse of life.
Freedom is discussed at an astonishing rate. It's clear to me that it comes with self discipline. Saturn builds it, then the human is ready for liberation. The Capricorn transits provide time to get the matrix in place. It all swings together, and then jump, spark, and pop. Uranus and Jupiter cross into Aries. The starting line.
Freedom is what I enjoy, and I'm building a reliable vehicle to travel in; a disciplined and responsible self. With good spark plugs.

90 Comments:

Blogger Tseka said...

Freedom is what I enjoy, and I'm building a reliable vehicle to travel in; a disciplined and responsible self. With good spark plugs.

me too.

I was thinking about posting on the previous blog but since no one is around...

When Joe and Juno and Neith all came out of the woodwork on AW it was as result of Joe's query about gender and the discussion of myth ensued. Old myth and personal myth about the strength of the dual gender in one person. He shared a story then i think from a native american... i could have faulty recollection but i remember there was a sudden buzz.
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This comment really belongs on post a few back about toys. Like you jM i had a turquoise cruiser. I could fly. And i had the "alt-Barbie" doll. My younger brother and i played with Nancy Ann and Debbie and some rusty but still trusty Tonka toys - they (the dolls) ran the equipment. One of the joys of living on the rez was isolation from fads or fixed ideas.

One Christmas my Seattle Aunt brought a real Barbie for a gift. I was polite of course. Later my brother and i discussed this weird looking thing and decided the best thing to do would be kick her under the bed. There she lived with the hoard- several years of easter and halloween candy. The chocolate was white instead of brown from years of being under the bed. Still it was our security, just in case we ever needed to escape.

The poem was right our siblings, they know all our secrets and share other things like an inexplicable need to keep a gunny sack of food under the bed. Just in case.

Maybe those alt-Barbies are the reason we ended up with our own toolbags.

14/12/07 7:12 PM  
Blogger jm said...

First of all, your site is beautiful and makes so much sense. It's taking shape fast? Isn't it exciting? So creative. Have you ever put your paintings together with the myths before? It's a gorgeous daily meditation in a frazzled world.

Tseka, this is great. You're right. It was about gender and I remember the Native American comment and the buzz.

Ha ha ha!!! Alt-Barbies. I should have known you were one of me. And the turquoise bike.

One Christmas my Seattle Aunt brought a real Barbie for a gift. I was polite of course. Later my brother and i discussed this weird looking thing and decided the best thing to do would be kick her under the bed.

Amazing.

Yes, our siblings. That's amazing too. Same protoplasm.

14/12/07 8:28 PM  
Blogger jm said...

A lot was created from that buzz around joe's gender comment. I left soon after and followed neith in creating Raging Uni, opening up a new room in my world. I've noticed other things like this and I think joe has unusual catalytic talent.

Any feelings about the bridge?

14/12/07 8:34 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Any feelings about the bridge?
yes my mind almost does not turn off.
I was wishing that you were sitting in my living room next to my fire so i could bounce some idea off your exceptional mind.

Perhaps we can try here is you are not too busy?

what i have been pondering and just now writing about is the mutable cross. Let me see if i can make sense of this.

To begin the mutable cross has two rulers Mercury and Jupiter. In nordic myth this correlates to Odin and Baldr. Odin represents the current (and dying) past two thousand years of consciousness evolution.

14/12/07 9:08 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Peace is ours to make

Good one.

I has a very strange experience. When I first looked at the Native American mask on Tseka: one dance I didn't like it. But the imprint in my mind kept reappearing and I realized that I was drawn to it and actually found it appealing in its after-affect. Quite strong.

I get this all the time and I call them the harmonics of experience. The sensations that tell me the truth of my emotions. But it's always ugly upon ugly or what I might not recoil from immediately, but the harmonics aren't good. I can't recall having the reverse effect like I did with the mask. Something is going on here.

They do seem to be partly scary by intention, but there are hidden messages, I think. Or maybe it's just the right kind of fear. Or awakening. Alertness.

I always wait and see what every experience does in retrospect. It changes and changes as the consciousness digests and assimilates. The jury is always out as far as I can see.

In music, I can hear the after-sounds just as clearly as the original. I get that with rooms too when they come back in my mind. Maybe that's what happens in descriptive prose. We use the feeling eye more.

That's it! The feeling eye liked the mask.

14/12/07 9:10 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Yes!! I'm here with time. Let me read this carefully on the mutable cross, something you know about. You're on it if you include the NN.

14/12/07 9:12 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Thought, memory were his ravens.

Everything was about individuation me|you black|white good|evil.
as a way to define self as separate from the oneness we once had (at least according to myth the general conscious level of mankind was low)

According to the myths we are now at the point of leaving Odin and moving to Baldr. Balder is the opening of the heart love through that chakra the next level no need for religion so we will have a period of destruction- Ragnarok. All the oppositional "gods" die. We simply do not need them anymore to acheive our goals.

14/12/07 9:13 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

The stone circles were a kind of calendar that charted precession of this planet across the GC Hel's path the road of souls or consciousness.

14/12/07 9:15 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

That is a very, very excellent response to that particular mask. The dance is a story of slavery and getting free.

14/12/07 9:16 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The change from the mutable is very pronounced now. It will be a matter of days. It's amazing that the fixed node and the cardinal Jupiter are coming on the same day. Mercury and the Sun will be exactly conjunct that day at 25 Sag, but interestingly, when Pluto leaves, Merc will be just turning retro in Aquarius.

The mutable cross deserves some consideration. All mutables are about duality, I think, and probably they are conduits in their flexibility and changeable nature.

I have no firm idea about mass consciousness. Even it were so that 2000 years of it were dying, it wouldn't be noticeable. Only in few. But those few would be moving forward anyway. So I don't know exactly how to incorporate the whole as far as knowledge goes.

The best gauge would be our personal loves, and mine just registered the bridge in a huge way.

I think consciousness is evolving all the time in increments anyway, so sudden shifts wouldn't matter, really. It all ends up the same. There is no doubt that we have evolved from our early superstitious beginnings in the dark. A lot, really, in 2000 years.

I do have to say, though, that I feel a change.

14/12/07 9:25 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The dance is a story of slavery and getting free

No wonder. It will not leave my mind.

I don't believe in actual prophesy, but that's not to say they aren't accurate. I think there is foresight but the details create themselves as mankind goes.

We have grown so much as a species and in many ways I'm proud. Proud to be human.

The Baldr myth makes sense. There's no doubt that religion is waning. The Age of Aquarius confirms this, since Aquarius is the love chakra.

14/12/07 9:32 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Hel has many faces (Venus) once she was whole, then half of a twin flame Frey| freyja (fertility and equal mutual exchange) Then in the time of Odin she became one of four. Odin (magician warrior)had two "borther Vili (Will- shaman priest) and Ve (wanderer and hermit)The wife of Odin is Frigg grounded to earth she is still the keeper of the old wisdom. Somewhere along the line she lost her prestige and appears to become a possession of her husband.

I have found a couple of references to Hel's symbol being the upward pointing 5 pointed star....the description of the pentacle path of venus. (not sure that this is completely sound)

So at least by my reckoning we are well into the bridge between eras. the namnsdags really describe the path of the transition and it has only lined up since 1997 when the sun aligned with the GC and the Solstice by precession.

14/12/07 9:33 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I can't buy the "we will" thing, even though I use it myself. Periods of great destruction, periods of longlasting peace and so on. The reason is this. It assumes that life is predestined and since Pluto transited my Jupiter, I've become less of a fatalist.

I think there is a skeletal structure in the whole thing but the actual events and eras are highly plastic and impossible to predict consistently. Too many variables.

I don't think the cosmos would allow seers to be accurate. It would shortchange our learning and evolution. We need to learn through experience in the unknown.

But some idea is good, as astrology and the myths provide. They have to be completely non-rigid, I think.

14/12/07 9:39 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

The myths, the stone cirlses really are an old system of astrology as well as astronomy using the pole star some fixed stars and precession as timing. The energies seem to work in the calendar year and in the long cycles. I think the foretelling was simply connecting the long cycles tot certain energies and knowing what to expect from that pattern. Just as you did now with your comment on Aquarius and the love chakra

14/12/07 9:42 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I'm sure we're between eras. The Great Ages are in synch. But that's not saying it will necessarily be better. It will in some ways, but with each era we uncover another hidden aspect that needs work.

The myths aren't meant to be taken literally, I don't think, and that's just what makes them great. We can mold our destiny through their usage in the ways we want. I think they are purposely illusive. In the imagination is where the seed resides.

The myths to me are guidelines along with so many other things. I can't help but sense the universe as a work in progress.

14/12/07 9:44 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Absolutely correct about plastic myth. One of the things i most admire about the NW Coast indians, they recreated their myths every year during the tsetseka.

14/12/07 9:45 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

BTW thank you for your comments on how tseka is shaping up. It is helping to shake some order into the piles...

And as answer to your question, no i have never written about the myths so have not used paintings with them. I have done some little tojis with paintings and haikus (the way i sketch) and little bits of poetic prose.

I don't know what i'll do with the namnsdags. As far as i'm aware this is orginal work - the decoding of the names to myth and etc.

14/12/07 9:49 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The myths, the stone cirlses really are an old system of astrology as well as astronomy using the pole star some fixed stars and precession as timing.

Yes. This is the navigational structure I see. The stars are definitely guideposts.

In the astrological view, for example, the upcoming configurations have potential for growth and fairly good times. There is also the potential for disaster, and that's why I don't predict.

I do rely on evolution leading us to improvement in the overall, as one can clearly see is a given.

I also have a particular feeling about the Uranus transits and Pluto in the last quadrant as we go into the Aquarian Age. And it does correlate with your mythology.

So I feel that some of us will experience the growth, many will not show it externally. Time will have to pass in order to see how far we've gotten.

14/12/07 9:51 PM  
Blogger jm said...

no i have never written about the myths so have not used paintings with them.

This is so exciting. A great development. Your writing is what I like the most. The book will be in shape as a result of this.

I don't know what i'll do with the namnsdags. As far as i'm aware this is orginal work - the decoding of the names to myth and etc.

It doesn't matter. It will create itself as you go. I know we are guided in our pursuits, so if the public wants what one has, the process will unfold on its own. The right people appear. Good to be prepared, though.

14/12/07 9:55 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

This time of year is always mind blowing for me. And this year does seem more-so.

Joe a catalyst.. Ja and there is just something very appealing about him for me. I love the way he brings his offerings, his quiet style.

14/12/07 9:58 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I've found consistently that the cosmic entities are tricksters. They have you believing, peering, amassing in one area, while they are busy getting us evolved elsewhere. 2012, for example. I would be utterly surprised if anything happened. It's too obvious and I've never seen them work that way. It certainly could happen though. Anything can.

14/12/07 10:00 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

One thing the people who buy my work have taught me is that it is more accessible for them if i write. This is not my first choice.

There is however only one thing i wish to do with my life as a focus and that is paint, create...if that means i have to write to make it work well so be it. What ever it takes. i get a bit nervous with the economy. The galleries are so slow. I sometimes wonder how different my future is going to look. I don't want to look to far ahead and trip over my present.

14/12/07 10:04 PM  
Blogger jm said...

This time of year is always mind blowing for me. And this year does seem more-so.

For me too. I'm far less caught up in the traditional reactions and feelings I've had before and I'm sensing something new. Kind of like I've moved on, not looking back too much. But Pluto is on my Uranus now and freedom is emerging. I have such challenges ahead. The biggest ones of my life. Consolidation of self is what's happening for me now.

I love the way he brings his offerings, his quiet style.

I love this too. And I still say there is a savior-faire about him regardless of his so-called inexperience. He has the grace and manners of an ancient wise king.

14/12/07 10:04 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

I agree life is a gradual progress for the most part. 2012 has some interesting astrology but i don't particularly see the point. Too much like Y2K for me.

I do however like the idea that a stone circle was laid out with a simple pole stuck in the ground and observation that is accurate for 6,000 and more years. And i pay attention to those wise observers. People who listened that close have a lot to say to me.

14/12/07 10:12 PM  
Blogger jm said...

St.B., You are a painter. An artist of the highest order and I think it's your ace. It's the most expressive of who you really are and I'm sure that the Uranus-Jup on you Jup will be energizing to the maximum. It's going to start soon. You'll look back on this time as a long ago chapter.

I've come to the same conclusion. I even toyed with becoming a writer, but I am a singer. It's the best I have. So, like you, I'm afraid of the struggles ahead, but if the decision is made and the commitment follows, I know we will make it.

Sometimes we don't realize what a gift it is to have an artistic singular talent. We owe it to ourselves, and to them to do it. The worry, all that anxiety...I've never known an artist that wasn'r neuronic.

14/12/07 10:12 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

And i got a bit lost as one of the points i wanted to bring up is this fascinating idea in the myths that the true energy of Baldr| jupiter which is through the heart will not be accessible until the time of Mercury|Odin duality runs it's program on us. Meanwhile Baldr is stuck in Hel's home waiting. The bridge has everything to do with Baldr.

14/12/07 10:17 PM  
Blogger jm said...

2012 has some interesting astrology but i don't particularly see the point. Too much like Y2K for me.

EXACTLY!!

I think understanding of cosmic machinations always exists but it's not complete in any one group. You, yourself, pick and choose, which is the best.

As far as painting and music go ... as much as I love metaphysics, the music is the path out in the world for me. I don't even talk astrology as much as I used to with them when I'm out there. They're guiding me to myself. So I owe them.

14/12/07 10:17 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

yes indeed, I am tseka, and i am a neuronic.

Another one with grace and manners that i always love to see is NeoBuckeye. These guys are very special.

14/12/07 10:21 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

course we could get going and list every body who visits here. It is the place itself that you create that brings forward the best in others. I take away so much.

14/12/07 10:22 PM  
Blogger jm said...

the true energy of Baldr| jupiter which is through the heart will not be accessible until the time of Mercury|Odin duality runs it's program on us. Meanwhile Baldr is stuck in Hel's home waiting. The bridge has everything to do with Baldr.

Again, I don't think its rigid for everyone. That's the beauty of the human race. We don't have laws in tablets which is why Moses's plan hasn't worked too well. We do good when we want to.

Take us for example. Your Mercury in Sagittarius conjunct my Jupiter. Don't we transcend the timing and restriction... the waiting, when we communictae? Could we be in the vanguard? Don't we cross the bridge in almost every conversation, which is why some people comment on the joy they feel.

It might take 3000 years for the bridge to be finally crossed, with every straggler on the other side, but I believe some of us are already across to some extent, probably on another bridge. And how many briges to where are there? There can't be just "a" bridge. Some of them go sideways and backwards too. I think life is far far too multidimensional to be viewed as a straight and narrow.

14/12/07 10:24 PM  
Blogger jm said...

course we could get going and list every body who visits here. It is the place itself that you create that brings forward the best in others. I take away so much.

I beg to differ. It's you just as much as me. It's "it" really. I doofeel good that I haven't ruined everything, though!

This place has a mind of its own. I am its captive. I tried and tried to flee, but no dice. I'm so small.

14/12/07 10:27 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Ha ha! "doofeel". I like that word.

The part of the myth that interests me is the Mercury and the Internet. There has to be a connection. Jupiter has expanded communication, so they tie together here.

14/12/07 10:31 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

i think the myths are suggesting that we personally do not access the depth of jupiter until we have achieved the reasoning, emotion that comes with mercury. Baldr is in Hel's home - the soul's home we have to cross that bridge individually. This is what i like about the namnsdag it is the cycle of this year and every year and the long cycle. Plus there seems to be something - at least in our family we all have a direct relationship to our nameday. My son has nameday + ascendant for example. One lesson of the spirit is his...suits him.

As to the masses, well we will get there eventually but the pathfinders will be what? cosmic dust communing with stars and intergalatic pulsars? we may have to consult Winston or Vishinu on that.

14/12/07 10:33 PM  
Blogger jm said...

One thing I'd like to know is whether or not blogs are as big elsewhere as they are here. Are they following our blogs in the world, true to nature. This country as leader with its NN Leo.

Sagittarius rising and mars-Uranus in Gemini. Jupiter-Mercury. How important is our work in the big picture?

14/12/07 10:34 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Ha ha! "doofeel". I like that word

hahahaha, good one for neuronics.

Shimmy, shimmy kokobop
doofeel, doofeel good.

14/12/07 10:37 PM  
Blogger jm said...

As to the masses, well we will get there eventually but the pathfinders will be what? cosmic dust communing with stars and intergalatic pulsars? we may have to consult Winston or Vishinu on that.

Ha ha !!

And what a great phrase. "the pathfinders will be what? cosmic dust communing with stars and intergalatic pulsars?"

That's what some say.

I can't worry about the human race at this point. We're stuck in something big and we'll learn as we go. I'm sure nothing is out to get us. The trouble we all get into is our own doing. The desire to survive beats all and that's what I go on. Life wants us apparently.

I always think of a massive chess board, and we little pawns get shoved here and there. But something shoves the big players around too.

It's all movement. And there is just enough protection to see us all through.

14/12/07 10:42 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Shimmy, shimmy kokobop
doofeel, doofeel good.


Ha ha ha!! Shall we dance? A pre-birthday shimmy?

I feel all right myself. I got inebriated last night and 24 hours after a bout, I feel uniquely good. I danced for the public and embarrassed myself, but that's my life lesson. They want me to make a continuing fool of myself. As long as they pay me. They will, won't they?

14/12/07 10:46 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

I do know this there is some talent in this country just chomping to get back to the creative movement of the 80's -to continue projects that got dumped with the Bush inauguration. The "dot-com" was actually real there was some phoney baloney sure but also alot of really solid building on technology got stomped. I am hoping that we get our vim back and get some of that rolling again.

If we are right and the Arts are in focus coming up i thing we may see art|technology blend more and more.

Maybe even a good way to record your work so i can hear it.

14/12/07 10:48 PM  
Blogger jm said...

What I like about the namnsdag is the consistent thing to grasp and the chance to sort of stop the forward motion. To meditate. One can take and enjoy the sensations in any way. Come and go. All these things are like little clocks that give us a feeling of safety in time and space.

14/12/07 10:50 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

oooh what a nice thing to say. This is my intention. To distill an essence that hooks to what my intuion is telling me.

Just like how i paint.

I have wondered if i will be able to decode other parts of the jule as well. This is a part that i understand very well because of my own relationship to it.

14/12/07 10:56 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Is it cold and snowy in your neck of the woods?

14/12/07 10:58 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I am hoping that we get our vim back and get some of that rolling again.

We will, St.B., I'm sure. That's why I press for the Aries coming up. I know how valuable it can be.

If we are right and the Arts are in focus coming up i thing we may see art|technology blend more and more.

Absodamnlutely. When the technological music thing came out I got it immediately. And I was mostly acoustic until then. I just knew it.

Tonight I went to a new movie theater. New concept. They have 2 fair sized theaters and one small one where you can eat, drink, and relax in on sofas.

There was excellent jazz in the lobby, a gracious hostess, a cafe, and several screens running old movies silently. The feel was very good and I though it was a tasteful blend of modern technology and old flavors. I was pleasantly surprised. It's next door to the best bookstore in town with many intertsing lectures going on. We're going to see a lot more of this. There was human warmth mixed with machine.

I'll record a little later. You might hear me live before that! All so's I can relax into the Patio Conversations undisturbed, unconcerned about mine or mankind's future. Just watching the tumbleweeds.

14/12/07 10:59 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Yes. Cold and snowy.

I have wondered if i will be able to decode other parts of the jule as well.

I think you can do this for the rest of your life. It seems to be the process itself you enjoy. The 8th house mysteries you love so. One decoded part leads to another mystery.

14/12/07 11:04 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The whole bookstore complex is in an old renovated theater, so the tradition of fine acting is in the bones. The harmonics of thespians guiding us to our artistic future. People can feel it. They behave better. More respect.

14/12/07 11:07 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

The whole bookstore complex is in an old renovated theater, so the tradition of fine acting is in the bones. The harmonics of thespians guiding us to our artistic future. People can feel it. They behave better. More respect.

This is wonderful to hear.
And it is so true that when you create a particular environment people do know how to participate.

14/12/07 11:15 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

well my dear friend my last piece of wood is burnt down and i am going to slide between the flannel sheets.

My Zamma is curled up so tight. Sometimes i look at her and she seems transparent. She is a lesson in aging that is quite astonishing. Still has lots of zip between long periods of resting. I'm paying attention. We have been on the path together for a long time she seems to have figured the "sparked into life" aspect. Glad for the teacher.

14/12/07 11:19 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Yes. You wouldn't believe this, tseka.
The bookstore owner started with a small used bookstore called The Tattered Cover. It was so successful she was able to expand and built a four story one with a restaurant on top. Then one downtown. Recently she was forced to move and it was the greatest thing yet. The new one is absolutely gorgeous, you can feel the theater. It feels round. There's a large quote from Romeo and Juliet in the main room and even some old theater seats around. I've never seen a store like this. And all those books. Pages rattling. People talking. Good life unfolding. Learning, learning, communicating. Mercury, Jupiter.

I went to check out some other traditional places and they were depressing, Flat. Lifeless. There is definitely a feeling of excited creativity in the air. The other business moving in with her have the feel too.

14/12/07 11:23 PM  
Blogger jm said...

We have been on the path together for a long time she seems to have figured the "sparked into life" aspect. Glad for the teacher.

Let's continue the tradition.

Good night, Sweet 1. Dream of codes and secrets.

14/12/07 11:25 PM  
Anonymous Joe said...

What a collection of encomiums you two have left for me! (Word of the Day, doncha know) :o)

Just had to share this poem from Mary Oliver.

Wild Geese
by Mary Oliver

You do not have to be good.
You do not have to walk on your knees
for a hundred miles through the desert, repenting.
You only have to let the soft animal of your body
love what it loves.
Tell me about despair, yours, and I will tell you mine.
Meanwhile the world goes on.
Meanwhile the sun and the clear pebbles of the rain
are moving across the landscapes,
over the prairies and the deep trees,
the mountains and the rivers.
Meanwhile the wild geese, high in the clean blue air,
are heading home again.
Whoever you are, no matter how lonely,
the world offers itself to your imagination,
calls to you like the wild geese, harsh and exciting--
over and over announcing your place
in the family of things.

15/12/07 7:01 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

encomiums you two have left for me! (Word of the Day, doncha know)

Well thank god it was the word of the day. I only knew this word as, to give praise in religious sense or maybe at a funeral so had to go look it up for fuller def.

I like expanding my vocabulary...

15/12/07 7:33 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

good poem btw.

the clear pebbles of the rain
are moving across the landscapes,
over the prairies and the deep trees


this part especially.. it could become a painting.

15/12/07 7:36 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Joe! Encomiums! I didn't know that one, and with a Saturn in Leo I should. Thank you.

And thank you for that beautiful poem. I live with wild geese and they've been speaking to me for years. If I could sing with the abandon that they do, I'd be happy. Something about them and I never thought of this:

over and over announcing your place
in the family of things.


I've always felt their protection.

15/12/07 7:38 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

My mother brought me a wreath today. It is very fresh I can smell all the different trees that form th circle, elixir for my soul.

15/12/07 7:39 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Ha ha! Timing.

15/12/07 7:39 PM  
Anonymous Joe said...

The part that speaks to me is this:

You only have to let the soft animal of your body love what it loves.

The story of my life.

15/12/07 7:42 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I like expanding my vocabulary...

Mine is very limited. I hope no one noticed. The catalyst is back.

How beautiful. Mothers and soul elixirs. I've been loving mine lately. Mother, that is.

And the smell of the trees.

the clear pebbles of the rain
are moving across the landscapes,
over the prairies and the deep trees

this part especially.. it could become a painting.


Sounds exactly like you.

15/12/07 7:43 PM  
Anonymous Joe said...

"Limited vocabulary"? You?! Never! :o)

15/12/07 7:44 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I like the lead-up to that.

You do not have to be good.
You do not have to walk on your knees
for a hundred miles through the desert, repenting.


I felt relief the minute the words entered. Wise woman, that Mary.

15/12/07 7:45 PM  
Anonymous Joe said...

Exactly. She's got it figured out. All that repentance and guilt for human needs that are perfectly natural.

15/12/07 7:46 PM  
Blogger jm said...

"Limited vocabulary"? You?! Never! :o)

Good!! You didn't notice!

15/12/07 7:47 PM  
Blogger jm said...

All that repentance and guilt for human needs that are perfectly natural.

This is a big one for me. joe. The guilt and fake compassionate posturing. "walk on your knees" really says it. I must find more of her work.

15/12/07 7:50 PM  
Blogger jm said...

One of the main reasons I love the cold climates with their winters is because of the evergreens. Even the name evokes pleasure for me. If trees had balls, the evergreens would be the ones. Defying death and ignoring the group.

When I wasn't drawing ballerina's toe shoes as a child, I drew idyllic winter scenes with snowy hills, ice skaters, horses, and always cardinals.

15/12/07 8:00 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

If trees had balls, the evergreens would be the ones

correct, conifers are tree-men.
The tree-women are trees who lose their leaves, bear fruit, change with the season.

It would be hard to choose a real favorite but i am very partial to blue Spruce and Noble fir.

15/12/07 8:07 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Thinking about your reaction to the mask carved from Cedar, now there is a tree of power. Twice i have felt full fear caused by two different Cedar trees.

15/12/07 8:12 PM  
Blogger jm said...

correct, conifers are tree-men.

Really?????? OMG. This is wonderful news.

Blue spruce is my favorite. I like the very long leafed delicate ones too.

I can't even begin to decribes how much I enjoy the sound of the wind through them.

15/12/07 8:16 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Yes. Cedar is maybe equal to the spruce for me. I missed that the mask was cedar. Really? Fear caused by the trees? Were you alone?

15/12/07 8:18 PM  
Blogger jm said...

It's such a simple identification, but when you talk about the trees, it makes so much sense. I wonder about my special feeling for winter and the conifers. Maybe developing these traits, back to what joe brought up eons ago.

I certainly love the deciduous ones, but as much as I appreciate the female biological role I never identified with it. Glad it's there, but mountains and evergreens invigorate me like few things do.

15/12/07 8:22 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Now I'm really interested in the cedar mask. It visits me daily.

15/12/07 8:23 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Evergreens and Mountains = Elk and reindeer people. People who need high ridges and freedom.

By personality we qualify. It's the Sagittarius influence.


Cedar is the tree of life among the NW Coast peoples, all their masks and totems are carved from Cedar.

Alone? Once when i encountered the first fellow he was very dark. The second time was with a bunch of kids. We were shortcutting to the beach through a gully and a Cedar very clearly gave me a death image so we all skirted the area - and did so ever after. The story has an incredible ending, similar to your reaction to the mask as "awakener". Right after we moved off rez one of the little kids went missing, Someone visioned him down a well. The search trough the woods discovered many old wells with rotting covers. Matthew had fallen in one and died. - Where were the other open wells discovered? Concealed by years of leaf mold they were under those very, very dark and scary Cedars. Our protectors. My mind flew open at the news.

15/12/07 8:41 PM  
Blogger jm said...

What a story. But I'm a little confused. How was death related to the protecting trees?

15/12/07 8:55 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

The Cedar has long intrigued me. I am allergic to it. I will break out in hives from it's oil.

Homeopathic provings tell us a lot. It is a remedy associated with very old age. People "see things" as if a dead relative were standing next to them, they speak to them as if it is normal. The physical description matches the NW Coast Indians perfectly. Make me wonder about the close association. There are lots of associations with death and magic, regeneration.

15/12/07 8:56 PM  
Blogger jm said...

So the well he fell into was under the cedars?

15/12/07 8:56 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Other wells were under the branches of the "protecting trees" I believe that they were warning us off but at the time i only registered the malevolence that drove us away. As a child i could see aura around trees and often they could speak to me.

15/12/07 9:00 PM  
Blogger jm said...

It makes sense since I believe death to be protection. But contact when one is alive is the problem. How we cross the worlds without fear. Then cedars could be a crossroads to the under-netherworld.

15/12/07 9:00 PM  
Blogger jm said...

So you're saying the cedar was malevolent. I see darkness and death as protection, and everyone goes when the time is right, so I would interpret the tree to be benevolent, or neutral, even if it took the child. It's our own fear of life that sees the evil in things. The spirits are inside of us, I think, finding a receptor in an outside object, guiding us to our fears.

15/12/07 9:03 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

I tend to agree with you. In the case of the cedars projecting an image i understood as fearful it was warning me of a deathtrap. Letting me decide. And amplification of something in its zone. Who knows the gaping hole in the ground may have been a source of more discomfort to others as well.

I have often experienced animals warning others of danger.

15/12/07 9:08 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The question of protection is a huge one and part of the Jupiter-Pluto in Sagittarius. I think every single object has spirit, but they are our own. Without our perception, they wouldn't exist. So the spirits that guide you, particularly, land in trees.

I think there is a perceptive mechanism in all minds that serves as protection giving warnings and the like as we go. We survive pretty well. I also think it works for the collective.

But if death comes. that could be the continuation of our survival.

15/12/07 9:08 PM  
Blogger jm said...

projecting an image i understood as fearful it was warning me of a deathtrap. Letting me decide.

Yes. Well said. They trust us to make these decisions, being wise as they are.

Animals are famous for warning us. They like us, contrary to popular opinion.

15/12/07 9:12 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

This is a very jupiter - Pluto Sag conversation don't you think?

15/12/07 9:15 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

hehe i see you did think so, my connection dropped.

15/12/07 9:16 PM  
Blogger jm said...

This is the problem. Danger and death come to everyone. The warnings help us by-pass in some cases, but in others, the dangerous incident might be necessary to get to the next place in their lives. Can't be avoided. This is the complexity of fear and danger. So there must be an inner mechanism that knows what to do in each of us.

I'm learning to allow others to map their destinies around me without specific judgements on my part and even learning not to identify with another's danger. It can happen right next to me and I am still safe.

The hardest one is seeing the value in personal trouble. But it's there.

15/12/07 9:16 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

I think every single object has spirit, but they are our own

A common belief is that we were all connected in one harmony in a time before time and still retain the ember of the "others" and they us.

It is what i term being a part of the whole and a whole in the part.

15/12/07 9:18 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Jup-Pluto, yes.:-)

Before Jup transited my Moon-Jup in Sag, I was more hocus-pocus. Getting those flash feelings that sonething is amiss and could be really bad. The more I go, the more I see how I've manufactured them to some extent, and even if the dangers are there, they can be worked with. I feel less of an all-powerful evil out to get me and more of an ability to maneuver. I get myself into all my jams.

Maybe after the dust settles, the collective could calm down a little and not see terror in Howdy Doody's face anymore. Well, actually, there is something scary about him.

15/12/07 9:22 PM  
Blogger jm said...

A common belief is that we were all connected in one harmony in a time before time and still retain the ember of the "others" and they us.

Yes. Maybe the personalizing of the whole is the point. So the vast spirit becomes our own and is identified only with each of us. Then it's ready to join the whole again with the added dimension of the singular earthly incarnation.

15/12/07 9:25 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Have you noticed the Pluto Jupiter in particular?

I move much greater efficiency the past couple of days. I have almost caught up to my list, which i rarely can do in winter with the days so short. I am very affected by the length of daylight hours for working being a morning person and all. My life resets with the seasons.

15/12/07 9:27 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

hhahaha well caught up to my list but running behind here obviously.

15/12/07 9:29 PM  
Blogger jm said...

yes, I have noticed the Jupiter-Pluto. Specific events have tied in, although I am far from caught up on my list. True to my non-earth nature all the tangible miracles I was counting on have not materialized, but then that's the point for me. To feel joy and inspiration regardless of the details. The old Sagittarius feeling that things are going to work out.

The results are still to be in, but then for me, with a Moon-joop in Sag in the 9th trine Pluto, it's business as usual.

What I have noticed is an alertness in the people I encounter daily. An uprising of the antennae.

16/12/07 3:00 AM  
Blogger jm said...

The whole thing with Sagittarius is that humans have to have religious guidelines. No matter how tainted the systems have become, they still need the basics, and everyone believes in some broader power than men, women, and children.

What happens from here is not determined.
I can't help but feel that a more pragmatic religious expression in general is in the works.

16/12/07 3:00 AM  
Blogger m.p.k. said...

Kadimiros... what a dream!

JM, Tseka, Joe... I continue to marvel at your daring and beautiful words.

What a feast! A great golden sun is glowing within me, I'm so glad for it's return. Strange that at the start of winter I feel so alive.

17/12/07 6:19 PM  
Blogger jm said...

It's at the start that the light increases. I think the mix with the austerity of winter gives it the extra spark of life. The darkest hour gives birth.

17/12/07 9:21 PM  

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