All bets Are On
I live near a town where gambling is legal. Most of my archetypical Sagittarius friends love going there. In fact, one of them got a job working for the casinos. I, too, like to gamble. Saggies love the flashing lights, the sounds and sights of the machines belching coins, the blackjack bluff, and the sensations of the jackpot being hit. Sagittarius is a high risk energy and the unrestrained, footloose and fancy free, high stakes life is what they enjoy. All bets are on as they can bring easy money. And we all know how Sags love to avoid the imprisonment of the office. It's the least represented sign by Presidents of the USA.Pluto, the in-depth digger, is finishing a 13 year transit of Sagittarius and the gambles in our lives have been in the forefront, with the future unknown....the best part of the risk.
At first, this country seemed to be behind the eight ball, believing in a doomed destination after 9/11. Predictions mounted to a tidal wave of frenzy as the outcome remained uncertain. An out of control government was in charge and everyone seemed powerless. Perfect Sagittarius scenario. Anything can happen.
With less than 3 years left to go, all bets are being taken. The country has stepped into unknown territory and still no one is certain. Sometimes to move on to the next stage of evolution, we must enter this no man's land and ride the roulette wheel until it stops.
There is a reason for the progression of astrological signs and Capricorn brings needed order and restraint after the freedom of Sagittarius. By that time it is welcomed as the exhaustion of the wild ride sometimes sets in. We are at the end of this ride now, but it's our last chance to enjoy the gamble, both in the collective and our personal lives. We are no longer behind the eight ball, but it still remains to be seen where the rest of the balls will go. And as far as I can tell, the Ace is still wild.
posted by jm at 4:26 PM
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Funny. funny, I'm so sag and I hardly gamble at all...at least in a traditional money sense. I know other sag's do, but I am anomolous here... Is it the Scotch ancestry? Is it the Capricorn? Dunno, don't like parting w/money unless I think I might have a good chance of bettering things by doing so. When we lived in Tahoe, I'd allow my (almost 100% water no sag beyond possesing it in the second house...)husband about $20-25 a week to go play blackjack at the casino-WHY? beacause he is patient and good at it, he would usually bring back signifigantly more than we spent, and if we occasionally lost, well, twenty dollars hurts, but isn't the end of the world.
HOWEVER, I have traveled across the country with little more than a (old)car and the basics (including roomates and dogs) a few times to establish a home. I have always moved with reasonable confidence that I could go anywhere (at least in the US) and as a fine-dining cook make a at least a living wage...I suppose on some insane real life level THAT is gambling...am I gonna complete the'minimum-wage-grand-tour' of the west coast before the time -runs-out? Right now I have every thing my (Cap)mom left me sunk into the shop... gambling, but I and my family are the wheel it spins on for the most part, I have more pull with fate here...when I apply saturn and work ethic to the energy, I get returns, it's a little different... although who knows how it will eventually play. I have paid my money, I will take my chance.
Much more fun... J
It's the Scotch and the Cap, especially the South node in Cap, as far as real greenbacks go.
I did the same thing. The old car and whereever. The car's name was Henrietta and she was an old baby blue station wagon. God, I loved her. But she burned a quart of oil per fillup.
When Pluto gets into Cap we'll probably see how our gambles have panned out. Your Sag is 5th house so it probably is about turning creative talent into business. You also have all that Cap in the 6th so the work detail overpowers.
Our Sag country is in the casino though. Where is the money? Gambled in Iraq? It's a good thing we all haven't done that as we will have to go into our own pockets.
Same here Juno, i have failed, miserably it seems, to hold up the honor of fellow Saggies. I cannot stand to be near a casino; the lights, sound and forget giving any money away, are all crazy-making .....my son calls me "daughter of the depression" and of course considers himself "grandson of the depression"(Sag rising + uranus and Neptune in Sag). But, i lived out of my rucksack for years, wandering alone in places others would consider very risky, have skiied with wolves and had my tent taken down around me by a grizzly. Emigrated alone to a foreign country at 21. I consider this not risky, but adventuring with trust and lots of preparation. Shades of gray perhaps? just as i carefully define the difference between desire and craving and passion and seduction.
I agree with you completely jm, in your analysis of the potential of jupiter in Sag. This solstice is a great set-up for a big transformation and i am looking forward to it. As far as i can see jupiter and Pluto and so many other planets squeezing through the GC then, may very well be saying, the world, the terror, etc that you see today is not tomorrow's world. i'm working on tomorrow's world, Pluto over my MC and in my 10th is making sure i do.
Gambling is traditionally 5th house but I think all fire signs are into it. In Sag and the 9th though it's more symbolic as it is a game with fate and destiny, the bigger picture of Sagittarius. They love to participate with this entity and luck and fortune are the interests. Aries likes to beat the odds, hide the Ace, and trick the house, but Sag is playing with a bigger house
That's why I think this country has departed from a previous predictable path, and why the uncertainty is so vast now. A little bit of time will tell.
Ohmigod!!!
my tent taken down around me by a grizzly.
The Jup through Sag is a grand culmination of this time and it will also trine Saturn in Leo. It will cross the USA 1st house and a year in the first is bound to crack through the fear. The fear is also largely based on our transformation of Pluto through our first and the nascent being now getting on it's tiny feet.
Even though we have such a lousy government, in truth, we have taken big chances in facing this part of our character, and I think the people of this country have done a fairly good job. I think the release is desired. The Jup in our first will tell if we have earned some joy. Some celebration. I already feel it in the air.
I am pretty much convinced that the terror has been a prelude to some newfound Sagittarius confidence. I think our next Pres will reflect this.
yep, it was October at fairly high elevation, on a climbing trip to the Bugaboos (Cdn Rockies) - Bears were supposed to be in deep sleep - just goes to show, life is unpredictable.
Liked that last bit, wonder how mars retro by progression and Pluto transiting the first are going to factor in this for US. My son's asc is close to the US asc and his mars rx in libra is same as US ditto Saturn... When Pluto transited his Asc he suddenly became aware of some ways he dealt with others. He has astronomical IQ, and can run circles around just about any of us- often for the sheer fun of it. When Pluto transited ASC he saw this as sadistic and consciously modified his behavior.
That is fantastic, tseka. I hadn't thought of this. I think you've nailed it. 9/11 occurred exactly when Pluto was on the ASC, and I see now that what you're saying about your son is probably the story. The abuse of our power. I do expect modification.
The Mars retro is very significant to me as it is in Libra and will be returning to our Saturn, our life lesson. This is a destiny of one on one cooperation and reasonable debate. We also have a packed 7th house to add to this relationship destiny. I think we are ready to sink in and get to the real debate about the governing of this country and the fair relationships with foreign powers. China just told us to shut up, and that's a start.
This gets to something I haven't touched on yet. The reasons for our two party system. I'll get into this shortly.
What interests me about your son, tseka, is not the abuse per se but the self awareness. The owning of it. I hope this is what's happened to us. Of course, we aren't as advanced as your son, but we'll get there.
I think we are ready to sink in and get to the real debate about the governing of this country and the fair relationships with foreign powers.
ja, this is a question of integrity. Our actions must completely reflect who we say we are: our Constituion. I think this was the big shock so many Americans are recovering from the "gift" of Pluto across our Sag Asc, we thought we were the world's white-hats and had a real savior complex going. Only to discover we were right at root of the worst that can be found in mankind. Jupiter will remind us that we are generous and goodhearted that we must engage OPENLY with All (the highest and the lowest) at all times (i have big hopes for that Libra Saturn/Mars). Power hidden behind a mask, as it was with Pluto in 12th, got exposed in the most dramatic way 9/11. We were aware of the destruction but could not name it then...now we can the Plutocracy is going to be replaced, perhaps by a more Saturnian Capricornian structure?
I think we'll get closer to a sound Saturnian structure. With Pluto and the Plutocracy in Sagittarius we had the wild spending, the exposure of excess wealth and political abuse by the churches and the subsequent diminshing, and the irresponsibility in general of the moneyed. This Dionysian spree they're on is probably in anticipation of the crackdown. The plutocracy is coming into Capricorn and this doesn't bode well for the excess. It remains to be seen how they will be restrained, but I'm sure they will.
Also, Jupiter has been in the hidden 12th and as it comes into the first, I can see quite a realization, as far as it can be at this stage of evolution. But I think we've made a step and will see some results.
A lot of our karma revolves around our obsessive relationship with money and the need to merge and share with other countries in a symbiotic way. This should happen to some extent as Pluto ruling the wealth comes fully into the Capricorn responsibility. It's good for business and that's always what this country was about. The question of privatization will be a big one. This last administration was a big experiment in this and it failed. Now a compromise will have to be worked out.
You are so right about the mask, the power, and the exposure. The way this country is expressing it's profound disagreement with he Iraq war, I would add shame, is something I've never seen. What's different is that it crosses the whole spectrum, not just Liberals.
As Pluto comes into our second house of money and the first return for the country, I think we will go on to this debate with all the Libra activated, and come to some decisions and big adjustments. The middle class has been the great strength of this country and this will be addressed as our new persona moves forward. We are all in it together no matter how it appears.
By the way, tseka, you are right again. The savior complex is shown clearly by the Neptune right on top of the USA chart. According to Astrodatabank's chart, the MC is 1 Libra, adding to our theory. Pluto will square that directly upon going into Cap and also our Natal Venus, the ruler. Compromise and cooperation will be required. A leveling of the field.
The culmination of our savior complex was WWII. (the underlying horror of Hiroshima was taking root) Then it slowly deteriorated, and Pluto in Sag squared the Nep at 22 degrees. Thus the demolition of the whole illusion coinciding with the Iraq disaster and this hideous government. From the heroics of WWII to the shame and degradation of Iraq. Both sides of Neptune.
The Saturn/Nep opposition will be part of this process, and Uranus will square our Neptune coming up, right after the next Pres takes over. Then onward to our Saturn return halfway through the 1st term.
The Neptune remains as our image in the world but it will have to be rebuilt in a more substantial incarnation, not just Hollywood movies and empty images.
I mean Uranus will oppose the elevated Neptune.
Jupiter will remind us that we are generous and goodhearted that we must engage OPENLY with All (the highest and the lowest) at all times (i have big hopes for that Libra Saturn/Mars).
I too believe this is a real necessity. Just this past week a federal judge said the whole wiretapping thing was unconstitutional & was to stop. This is exactly the kind of event that reflects the change needed. Since Tseka's sun is late Sag & my progressed sun is now 29d Sag, we must be like those little canary birds in the mines . . . the honor, honesty & integrity that are the top notes for Sagittarius must come forward. Pluto is inexorable . . . undergo the necessary transformation & rebirth or else!
Well said, neith!
Inexorable. Great word.
Just this past week a federal judge said the whole wiretapping thing was unconstitutional & was to stop.
Yeah. Yesirrreeee.
A lot could happen, but I think the plutocracy could get taxed in Capricorn. That's what I think they could be sensing, so they're making hay now. Perhaps even more serious taxation than ever. The issue of taxation runs back to our origin. It's a big deal. And so is this Pluto return.
Scorpio merges and makes the money, but Capricorn controls it....banking, investment, etc. So it's possible that the wealthy plutocrats will have to yield to the system. They've evaded it so far. But there's serious business ahead.
They could go nuts and take further control but I'm doubtful. They will be travelers in Capricorn's land.
Ja, jm, that is what i have thought for some while, that taxation will be at the heart of this shift, there has been sooooo much effort spent on convincing the people that low taxation on the weathy and corportations provides jobs when the evidence is exactly opposite. The (non)decision that was nuanced in Santa Clara vs Southern Pacific Railroad Company which established that corporations are people
could be challenged. The Fed may lose its hold on our treasury, these actions would all have to come from the people, indiviuals in past, like JFK who went in that direction have encoutered lethal measures from the corporation / plutocracy.
Most likely some partial solution will be presented higher taxes on Corps and Wealthy, or they will lose advantages they currently enjoy. Frankly i believe we are witnessing a mass exodus from the US to China so many have headquarters there now, like Microsoft, B of A, etc there is just too much evidence that the rapid rise of China in past 5 years got help from "international" business which used to be called American. They know that they are about to lose the satus of protection under our laws and have been siphoning off what they can through Iraq and other methods. That Chinese army looks very capable of protecting their interests. The game will go on just the US role will change. Our Mars retro says we won't go on the offensive for the plutocracy any more, only act in defense....they must have some darned good astrologers on their side.
Excellent analysis, tseka. This is what I imagine will be debated with solemnity. It's been a long time coming.
The country was founded on the principle of low taxation and regulation of business, and that would be fine, if people hadn't neglected the whole system. Economic health depends on every part functioning well from the bottom up, and that's what I this the restructuring will be all about, with new industry as the age following the Industrial Revolution ends. That's where we are now. In between the old and new economics. The markets have to be healthy. I believe investors are holding their money to see what emerges. That's why I am so fascinated by the move of money away from K street. All in all, I think money will be moving from its traditional strongholds, maybe to prepare for a real divergence with Pluto in Aquarius. Uranus in Aries will be telling in this arena. The battle between the new and old is apparent now.
One thing I've always kept in mind is the fact that this country accounts for over 20% of worldwide consumption. They would have to keep us going to survive.
The overblown corps are like bandits running all over looking for booty, but I don't think they can avoid the clamp anywhere. They are running into big problems now with labor in China. I still think the nefarious ones will destroy one another in their competiton. Pluto in Cap will root out the corruption that keeps the system from operating. Another reason people aren't feeling the urge to take to the streets and force it. Some are quietly getting ready to take their small business slots when opened. And we are all dependent on corporations, so the fix is a collective problem, not an 'us against them' approach. This is my biggest criticism if people are serious about the problem. Us against them is counterproductive in general.
And I agree absolutely about the Fed. Something will probably change in the whole monetary structure.
Also big challenges for the Repubs. Real Repubs are in favor of smooth social functioning because it's cost effective. So maybe they will restructure the party with the added realization that some social spending is necessary. At the same time, Dems might have to forgo some of their social programs.
Our Mars retro says we won't go on the offensive for the plutocracy any more, only act in defense.
I think this the whole story all the way around....self defense.
Katrina was a great portent. The city had a NN in Capricorn and was all about historic preservation. This is the interesting part as we look at our structures and decide what should be kept and what can be eliminated. New Orleans was an incredibly decayed city. Something's going to give in one way or another when the supporting matrix rots. But where there's enough support, things will remain standing.
Same thing in our own lives.
I do enjoy these reasoned discussions so very much.
tseka. Speaking of our own lives, and you being so articulate, I am extremely interested in your experience with Pluto passing your MC and in your 10th.
Also, you said you emigrated here. From where, if you'd like to tell? I'm very interested in this experience too.
jm i am so new to astrology that i can only hazard a guess. Pluto transited MC which is 14 sag 54 just after the 9/11 event, (maybe the guy who elected me the emotional beacon, you figure?) So many transits were simultaneous to that time, it is hard for me to look back and know for certain what was active. I have come to astrology more recently. Pluto is natally in my 6th so is just now eactly trine to transiting pluto.
In general i have dedicated my self more soulfully to my art. I have been making a living doing it for more than 30 years. But there was a big shift in sharing at a more intimate, spiriual level that i had previosly kept to myself. i found that bridge between others when Pluto came to the MC. Pluto immediately hit mercury, and simultaneously squared my moon in 7th. This time period is very clear one moment life was full and joyous in love, then so much, so, so much was whisked out without a goodbye. Uranus on my Asc and NN probably assisted. It would be hard to tease any one thing out into a pattern associated with one planet. Chaos reigned for a long while. I was dealing with death and dying a lot, personally and with strangers as an Ombudsman ensuring rights of the individual in skilled nursing facilities.
One thing i have noticed is that i do not feel compelled to assist others as i once did. i have been consciously doing less "helping" not selfish just do not feel it is my job now. And this is very good for me and my health. i pour it into my art now and it finds the healing path just as easily.
Truth is jm my life has always been packed full....
i was born and raised on a Salish indian reservation north of Seattle, i traveled all over then became a Canadian immigrant (seeking to offer asylum for my brother who faced Viet Nam draft.) Came back to US some years later - a long story, tried to return to Canada then to the reservation, both welcomed me with open arms but as some part of the Pluto passage years, didn't get too far.
All in all i can only offer this; surrender has been my best path. What were your wise words? trying not to hold on too much? My art is selling who knows what's next? there is quite a bit of interest at the moment. We shall see as it unfolds. i simply try to live with as much joy and radiance as possible.
OMG! OMG! OMG!
One thing i have noticed is that i do not feel compelled to assist others as i once did. i have been consciously doing less "helping" not selfish just do not feel it is my job now. And this is very good for me and my health. i pour it into my art now and it finds the healing path just as easily.
tseka, this is your NORTH NODE IN THE 1ST exactly! I have it too. We absolutely must start on the node discussion. Your description is uncanny in its truth and accuracy. I'm beside myself.
OMG.
I know you understand what I'm up against since it parallels your experience. My node is in Taurus so it's even more stubbornly self centered. When people accuse me of being too ego oriented they almost have it right, only it's just the reverse. I'm not egocentric enough.
The nodes are amazing. for me, the first house North manifests in the attacks I get trying to pull me away from myself and my identity. The whole thing of approval. being "liked". Abandoning my Aries strong and sometimes abrasive persona for approval that won't be there anyway. The approval will come after I remain true to my identity no matter what the odds. The end result is just as you described. It's learning to put the self first, the hardest thing for us to do, but the right thing beyond any doubt whatsoever.
We come from a soul memory of relationship and compromise, and we've mastered it. This time around we are learning to forgo dependence and doing for others like a kind and good person. But the fear of being without these relationships scares us. The fact is, they will be there. Even better as a result of removing the need. And we will still be kind as we can't help but be that way. We just no longer have to try.
Pisces 1st is a spiritual center in the self that is completely unique. Virgo in the 7th serves others, the past soul behavior, but Pisces 1st serves the self first. This automatically spills over to others in a magical, effortless way.
I think you've come into the North, a very hard thing to do, and I feel lucky to be a part of this as it will do that osmosis thing I was talking about.
More on this later.
And on the subject of Sagittarius and risk...Sag takes leaps into the unknown because of an innate knowledge that things pretty much work out. That's what I think will be the final lesson of Pluto through Sag as we've gone on these wild swings from optimism to pessimism. It will end up level.
Capricorn is largely concerned with architecture and this is coming up. The demolition of our old buildings and all of this modern construction a la plutocrats like Donald Trump, will be up for review. Historic preservation.
One thing to keep in mind is that the USA has a natal Pluto in Cap and has innate talent and now experience in dealing with this energy. It will serve us well. We have a natural ability to tear down structures(Pluto) and rebuild(Capricorn). And now we're just in the mood.
So interesting to read what you have to say. It was the nodes that attracted me most when i first began reading into astrology....what you say makes sense. i also think that this pisces node in the first is capable of seeing self as one-being the tantric soul-self is accessible. People speak of Pieces having trouble with boundaries. Perhaps it was only Freud who made this so...though i grant many people in our society must. As a child this sense of oneness was effortless. Passing through all the hormonally driven years one loses touch with that child trust, though the connections were always there they got set aside for mundane, practical realilty, now they ressurface in a kind of ageless way. The gate is mostly open now.
Also i wonder about the nodes being close to the asc and telepathy. Perhaps the memory in the other vibrates so close to our own?
Very interesting, tseka. I always associate Aquarius with telepathy, but what you are saying about the memory of Pisces sounds right too. my Aquarius friend I described communicated with me all the time telepathically. He lived miles across town but when I need to see him, he appeared. One night I thought about him, stopped at Barnes and Noble, and there he was, miles from home!
My partner also did this, but he had Neptune in the 1st. My father was a Pisces and Aquarius combo and he also seemed to be in another dimension along with this one.
And the boundaries! I think it's the big 'them' that has trouble with the boundaries. Certainly Pisces North wants nothing more than a complete abandonment of rigid structural separation. But in the 1st, it's oneness primarily with the self which is symbolic of the whole.
Say someone had Pisces North in the 11th. Here the person would find the oneness in the group. or in the 7th, the boundaries would gladly dissolve in one on one relationship. But in the first it is a solo act to start with, then circles outward. so NN 1st would be unlikely to follow anyone else's spritual perscription. Artists do so well with this because it is an absolute solo venture and probably the closest to the source you can get in the material realm. And the closest to the identity of the ASC.
With Aquarius rising, the collective is part of the destiny but only as a result of the self centeredness first. The key is to walk the solo path in the crowd, never abandoning this for what is supposedly the good of the group.
I think Freud caused a lot of confusion, although he had some good ideas. But I think he was a Scorpio type untrusting individual who projected his fears on the world masked by his intellect. There was hocus pocus in him that mesmerized people.
A NN close to the ASC tells of a soul memory or family history of weakness, maybe sickness, or questions of survival. So the person comes in to LIVE with great strength and some kind of special vitality. To move into live fully. What's odd about Pisces, though is the combo of dissolving back into the oneness, the end, while still maintaing a distinct identity, maybe alternating. I think this is where the art comes in. Self must be maintained, but a sort of dissolution is allowed for the moment. It's with other people that the identity is most important to keep intact, the South being in the 7th. The thing that's hard to avoid is the call for help that someone else could probably do better.
Taurus, sign of so many of my favorite people! I know that taurus is described as stubborn, my sense comes more from the sagas and myths of cycles from scandinavia. There is a curious bridge between Sagittarius and Taurus on an esoteric level. Both are alchemical. One is above working with star energy and one is beneath working with heat in the earth. Two magic portals one associated with 19 May and one at GC to the solstice. The ancient division was what we came to name faeri the ones who move outside time and alfri=energy that flows into the ground. -how they used energy. As time passed people associated with each were known as Hel's folk the one's who tended the Hills or mounds (faeri) and the Smiths the ones who tended the forge (alfri or elf). Hill and Smith being the common names in Britian from this source i believe. The Taureans i love are immoveable at times but they know lots about tomte -earth magic. Designing and building beauty. Some fragments are missing, maybe you will remember them with your north- forging with fire and sing them back into our memory. I bellieve this is essential to next step of mankind and is the place where men remember their lost equivalent to the "goddess" the tomte energy. For the US this is our key to our new masculine identity, and Mars rx for so long in Taurus earlier this year had a lot to do with it...or at least my vagrant thoughts...
Added to the soul memory and the ASC could be your own experience with sickness, despair, futility, wanting to go back(home) and the discovery of this amazing will to live. The moment you descibed with your illness is exactly this. So the call back to the chaos is there but the 1st house can't go back. She has to bring it into new life. The first house, Aries, and points in the 1st are about life force that is hard to descibe and not always obvious. But extremely powerful. The 'one' memory is very close and the feelings are mixed about going back or separating in an individual incarnation.
Fascinating again. The Sag/Taurus connection. Something brand new for me. This is good.
The earth factor is the most important. It's the only earth I have. And the heat is interesting.
When I touch the piano keys a force goes through my body and directly to my feet which caress the floor as I play. Much much more than singing.
I can see the relationship to the heat which would activate the earth energy. The immobility of Taurus is exactly what I want. I want to stay put, grow roots, and experience the pleasures of the earth fully.
Pluto is opposing my Venus ruler of this Taurus now and it is a big moment of grounding for me. Believe it or not, just sitting at the computer pecking out my thoughts is a huge part of this.
Pecking, dancing, and not moving very far!
Uranus will be in Taurus for 7 years trining Pluto, and I think this new USA identity will come in strong then.
interesting to think about.
My beloved's north node is exactly on my asc. For 30 years we have always known where each other is tho thousands of miles may separate us.
My beloved younger brother (who was killed the very year i immigrated to Cananda -you can't deny fate), had north node exact to the minute on my son's south node in his first house (and a whole lot of other connections)
All of them share very telepathic connection with me and each other.
Like you my father is other worldly psychic and telepathic to a degree a geminii we don't know his birthtime - born on the way home from his grandfather's funeral under the Elmer's flapjack sign that's it. Mapping patterns.
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born on the way home from his grandfather's funeral under the Elmer's flapjack sign that's it.
Oh, Oh, my sides!
What a birth! Other worldy for absolute sure.
And the nodal connections. My sister...exactly my nodes to the degree in reverse. What a relationship we have.
My beloved...Jupiter and Mars on my N.Node in the first.
What a relationship.
My only role model in the world...my aunt, my hero...my exactTtaurus node.
Your beloved's North on your ASC.
What a relationship.
That one is incredible. No matter what, you will help each other reach your potential and destiny. So good.
Ha ha ha ha ha !!! Elmer's Flapjacks!
My father was hilarious. How 'bout yours?
This is altogether wonderful. I feel more relaxed than I have in ages. I'm so glad I'm not watching anyone murder anyone. So glad I don't have a TV!
Very Zen, he breathes with the rhythm of the earth, very, very brilliant, came home from WW11 (he went in at 17) and said i will never use a gun again got rid of them all. This a country lad who grew up hunting. He refused a teaching position at Annapolis and went to work in the woods, logging. He could not face the cruelty of people. He is extraordinary. He is now 84, has a huge japanese garden tends his bamboo loves all things Japanese and asian. He lives his reverence for the earth. We are very good friends.
OMG!!! Sagittarian energy to the max!!! Been too busy being an ant today & now am tired but did have one thing click into place after reading all this wonderful discussion on the nodes. My Gemini NN in the 7th (opposite of you two) is expressed through all the connecting of people to resources. Mercury the messenger . . . & the internet is the latest version of winged feet!!
Thanks for tons of inspiration . . . :-)
OMG, tseka. Your father.
Neith, just wait till we go node tripping. It will be incredible! You just described yours perfectly.
Yup. Opposite of mine and tseka's and that's a whole story in itself. We have so much to teach one another and we have the great sense to do it.
Your beloved's North on your ASC.
What a relationship.
That one is incredible. No matter what, you will help each other reach your potential and destiny. So good.
actually very difficult for him. The North node feels consumed. and this is square his taurus sun/venus, he has a full house of taurus, his fifth.....so while it feels fated and otherworldly he has a lot to work out with that square. He has taught me a lot about unconditional love. Reaching our potential and destiney....been a long and unusual path.
Some of the difficulty might be your own need to protect and care for him that can be burdensome. That's part of the North first which we can pursue in time.
I'll tell you more about mine. The NN in the 1st always feels somewhat drained by partnership no matter how good they are. Separation is always the key. With his Node in Aquarius, this is his lesson. Both of you want independence.
They said about us, that we were the most together/apart couple they ever knew. We were and it worked for 25 years till he died. but it's a long story. And an interesting one.
The Taurus square to the Node in Aquarius is about letting go of the grasp on things and people, especially with Venus there. He will learn this with you, but I can see why it would be hard for him. Good description.. consumed ...the North is so hard to get to which is why it looks that way. But you are the walking talking example of what he is reaching toward. It's his for the taking if he can release himself from the urge to posses it. It's already his, if he can perceive it.
Amazing insight jm. Nearly our exact words to each other, our understanding of this, venus opp venus square pluto adds to the care by which we must act.
This is certain, i have been gifted many helpers to see my way.
Thanks for your thoughts this north node stuff it's fascinating. I look forward to Neith telling us about her's in Gem..
I have never seen anything that tells the story in the chart better than the nodes, tseka. It's really all so simple. We complicate the map far too much.
It is a joy for me to share the information. The more we know ourselves, the better it is form me as people get more in their own skins and comfortable. This translates in to better groups.
And who knows, maybe one day the public won't attack me!
I'll start our node dialog this week. As we discuss them I also think we can come to an understanding of what our country is experiencing.
Thinking about the scandinavian myth portals correlating to Sag and Taurus i mentioned, i went to see if astrology had something similar, found Alice Bailey; Sagittarius, Taurus, and Scorpio are Ray IV = The Energy of Harmony through Conflict. Transmitted through Taurus, Scorpio and Sagittarius
Transfigured through Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Vulcan, and the Earth
This is fundamentally the will to destroy limitation. it will come into manifestation in 2025.
Read around some this AM it resonated very close to the myth images. I need to look more closely at the Scorpio connection.
The buddhic path. Fire that flows into the earth and out of the earth, wow...haha it appears i need to read Alice Bailey. Fascinating stuff.
http://bonniewells.com/gettingstarted.html
tseka, absolutely amazing. You are wonderful. I'm coming back to this.
The Energy of Harmony through Conflict
That is so accurate it's uncanny. My nodes are Taurus/Scorp and the Moon itself is in Sagittarius. This make so so much sense.
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