Crystal Balls
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posted by jm at 3:40 AM
Thursday, November 02, 2006
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According to The Political Forecasting Group (which is recognized by the American Political Science Assocation), the latest average (October 30, 2006) of fourteen political forecasts is 21 seats will be lost to Republicans very soon.
If accurate, then their chances of retaining their majority in the U.S. House of Representatives is negligible. And one of the 13 Keys to the White House will have turned against the incumbent party's control of the White House in 2008: The "party mandate key" turns against the incumbent party if it does not gain more seats from midterm elections.
I don't see how there's a chance that Republicans can keep control. And I'm certain myself that they will lose '08. I've heard that about the midterm factor.
One thing going on now with the Neptune energy is the reality dawning that the only way out of Iraq is a change in leadership. It's astounding to me how the Republicans have blown it. Like they've handed over the "keys'. I think they are overwhelmed.
But the thing about the crystal ball is that it really doesn't matter what happens. It will be the right thing for the time. And a change in leadership is no guarantee of anything.
What we can do as a society is make an effort to hold them accountable if possible. The Net has let them know that we are watching with eagle eyes.
We have a collective destiny as well and as individuals we can't always kow why things are the way they are. That's where study and sharing of insight come in.
What I'm working with this time is not to look at the outcome as the important thing. The fortune telling is my parody of how impossible it is to know what the cosmos has planned. Or if there ever are any plans. I have no idea what the soothsayers are babbling.
I learned from the last election how painful it is to get caught up in group hysteria and this time as we approach a Full Moon in calm Taurus I plan to relax in the midst of the tension and excitement and pretty much do what I do ordinarily. Nothing I do will change anything and I have always trusted the universe. There's too much holding things together.
Trying to know the future is supposed to allay fears but it doesn't.
Also the magnitude of the present diminishes with time. Our own desires tell how we will react to the present. If we are unhappy with our own lives, this is what we will see around us. Like receptors, many people miss the good going on simultaneously, which is considerable.
I asked myself repeatedly if Bloghdad is populated by more than average frightened people.
I feel like I've been sucker-punched, and I think the perp is Neptune. Would someone be willing to look at my transits, or show me how to do this, so I can confirm what my intuition is telling me? A huge degree of disillusionment has struck me in the last 24 hours or so, and I am wondering about a lot of things I thought were immutable.
Let me see...
First, Neptune is headed for your Sun. Ego dissolving. In your 11th house of future and collective associations. With Neptune so often everything we thought we had built anounts to nothing temporarily and futility sets in. The details are insignificant. Just giving up for a second and letting things ride is best. A hard task for a Moon in Capricorn. But the patience of Saturn helps.
The Sun in the 6th is ego concerns around work. So connected to the 11th and the future there could be confusion about the whole path ahead at the moment.
The stellium in Scorpio digs deep into what is waste and a drain on life force. This is work related too. Maybe some cutbacks on work responsibilities are being asked for. Or something in the routine of your life that could be eliminated.
Jupiter is getting ready to leave the 6th house of work too, so excess could have happened this last year and a paring down now is on hand.
Remember what I said about this Taurus full moon in your 12th and the chance for retreat and recuperation? Now is this chance.
The Sun rules your 4th house of home so that is implicated too. Some disillusionment there. With a Leo 4th, the home is a great source of happiness in your life. Warmth, things happening, even love. So that could be a huge disappointment if for the moment it is not acting as usual. Or conversely, if the world is getting you down, maybe more home time would help. No matter what, the Leo remains and the joy will always be there overall.
But right now Saturn in in your 4th casting a shadow on the light. Disappointments there as well.
With the Sun in the 6th this joy spreads to others in the work arena. This could be going through adjustments now though. An undercurrent of sorrow almost always occurs with Saturn through the 4th. But things can be faced more than usual. Emotional wounds from the past. Saturn will be there for another couple of years and the cranp and release will continue. Release will follow this moment of tension soon.
The Scorpio is intercepted in the 6th house of work so it is especially trying now. There is a call to get down to the core of what you are trying to achieve and how to do it. How to get the deep satisfaction you desire from your service. And the recognition.
So, joe. Feel free to express your concerns about this. It's a good chance to focus on what the real issues are.
"But the thing about the crystal ball is that it really doesn't matter what happens. It will be the right thing for the time. And a change in leadership is no guarantee of anything."
Actually, I don't have any expectations about what will happen in Iraq or the Middle East. But I do think some seesawing in the U.S. is needed to encourage people to let go of excess polarization and look for balance in themselves.
The long term, far beyond our present lifetimes, is probably collectively ensured one way or another. It's just the short term future that elicits dramatizing behaviors.
Yes. The Saturn transiting the 4th, ruling your Capricorn points, is probably nudging you to spend a little time at home. Being creative and thinking things through.
As Pluto comes into your 8th for the next years a lot of contemplation will come to prepare you for your big step when Pluto comes into your 9th and crosses your Capricorn stellium. That will be an entirely different chapter of your life. The prep is important. Great achievement is possible if taken step by step.
I do think some seesawing in the U.S. is needed to encourage people to let go of excess polarization and look for balance in themselves.
Absolutely. Very well put. All of this is connected to our Saturn in Libra which is getting a return soon. The time is just right for this equalizing. Also the Mars progression in Libra that just went retrograde coming to the Saturn and bringing 80 years of balancing. I hope that's enough!
I love your point about finding the balance individually. It's all connected and I think some real debate is ahead politically as we learn this lesson collectively.
These extremes have only set the stage.
The long term, far beyond our present lifetimes, is probably collectively ensured one way or another. It's just the short term future that elicits dramatizing behaviors.
Eggggsssaxctly.
Hard to admit that life is really not that dramatic. We create the dramas for entertainment. And it seems to get out of hand. Maybe a little boredom and nothingness would be quite enjoyable.
I would think that this Full Moon in Taurus is highlighting this with all the Scorpio/Leo agonizing dramatics.
Tauruses are noted for being dull sometimes, but they don't seem to mind. Simple pleasures are enough and what everyone else is doing is none of their business. Not interested.
I have one Taurus right now in my life who is teaching me to ignore her and go on about my own business. It's so funny.
So this Moon on Sat. is one I'm going to use productively and do not much of anything. maybe enjoy myself.
I've given a lot of thought to this drama thing. We used to have live theater for this need. To dramatize and connect our suffering collectively. Then came movies and television which took away the 3D and so many other things. Left us with a flat and dull experience in the end, wanting more.
Sometimes I think that the Net is a return to live interaction in a new way and holds promise. We are not zombied, paralyzed, and without will at least.
One more thing I noticed joe. Pluto is just about to leave your 7th house of partnerships so there could be 11th hour crises there as this long learning period is coming to a close. Jupiter will be there soon for a year to finish the job and get your relationship sector squared away so you can move ahead.
For you Joe, may these warm hugs surround you.
Neptune can be so beautiful and such a difficult teacher. Neptune square my venus just about did me in, deception, lies, abuse even. My whole life i seemed immune to it then two years of being a "target" . The inner strength pulls us through, somehow.
A huge degree of disillusionment has struck me in the last 24 hours or so, and I am wondering about a lot of things I thought were immutable.
Mars in Scorp is just about exact in forming a T square with your MC & IC. Mars often precipitates events into action - and since fixed signs are involved, your use of the word "immutable" fits. Neptune has moved past your MC & within 2 degrees of exactly squaring your sun . . . illusions being stripped away?! And Uranus which is slowing down preparing to go direct is squaring your mercury (ruler of your ASC). Then there are some interesting transits to your moon from Pluto (semisextile) and Saturn (inconjunct) . . . both quite capable of stirring up emotional issues.
Now having listed all those transits . . . Mars is instigating serious review of the home vs work vs vocation situation. With the Pluto/Saturn aspects to your Moon, I suspect old emotional "stuff" is being stirred up for you to reexamine. That Scorpio stellium is going to have lots of folks examining & reexamining what's going on deep within.
Be assured we all send you lots & lots of well wishing & lots of open ears & hearts . . . take care of yourself, Joe.
Kadimros said,But I do think some seesawing in the U.S. is needed to encourage people to let go of excess polarization and look for balance in themselves.
The long term, far beyond our present lifetimes, is probably collectively ensured one way or another. It's just the short term future that elicits dramatizing behaviors.
Interestingly, nearly the exact words came from my son this morning. He comments that he sees continued polarization of the House and Senate regardless of who wins as we shift from this massive corporate one-size fits all govenment solution to local government. We are thinking some new forms of local initiatives may develop in the near future somewhat along the lines of what the the scandinavians do, a joint venture between the people, business and govt.
British Columbia had this in the early 70's When the New Democratic Party got in breifly. LIP grants; Limited Initiatives Proposals, funded all sorts of needed neighborhood projects. I worked with a "free" womens clinic, another that was for vagrants, and taught kids who basically failed special ed. Others built playgrounds, well you get the idea. Small groups or individuals put together a proposal and received grants. It was very cool while it lasted, very! An amazing amoung got accomplished in a short time. People were invigorated.
Well, the veil of illusions is stripped away...
My friend from California finally arrived on Oct 31 late at night. It took her the next day to settle in as she was very tired from the drive and not feeling well. I was on a short vacation Mon Tues and Wed this week. We did visit a little bit off and on, on Wed., but not as much as I wanted. Today I was feeling very scattered, tired, sad, even depressed, and at times "barely there" as I went back to work (feeling like it was Monday and just piling on the disorientation). I had no idea what was going on, except for the nagging feeling that Neptune was involved. I think it was the long buildup to the visit, with delay after delay, and then very little of what I wanted/needed from her (catching up, checking in, etc.).
Well, to make this very long story shorter, she is making this trip to see friends all around the country, us included, because she has stomach cancer and myriad health problems, and wants to live a little before she dies. Secondly, she's ending a relationship that was an illusion (OMG, I just connected that!) for 10 years because her SO fell "out of love" with her within 6 months of their wedding, but did not communicate this to my friend, so the love she thought she had was only ephemeral.
All this pain, sadness, grief, anger, resentment and despair was what I was sensing but thought it was coming from inside me. It wasn't me, it was her, radiating off her so that my intuition was screaming bloody murder but there was nothing on my radar, until I asked her to turn off the computer and visit with me. So she told me the story about the disease, and we cried together and talked about the brand new life she is embarking on as a single woman, only now with cancer and chronic pain.
She now sees she left behind her authentic self when she married this other person in an essentially one-sided relationship. We have a lot to discuss now, it seems. I did get her birth data and will look at it shortly.
Thanks for the input, jm and neith although in the end, it was my decision to ask her to open up that stripped the illusions away.
"We are thinking some new forms of local initiatives may develop in the near future somewhat along the lines of what the the scandinavians do, a joint venture between the people, business and govt.
...Small groups or individuals put together a proposal and received grants. It was very cool while it lasted, very! An amazing amoung got accomplished in a short time. People were invigorated."
Amazing! Wonderful story. Earlier today, I was reading a suggestion about synthesizing approaches to arrive at balanced solutions: Strengthen families, neighborhoods, communities, as well as provide government solutions, for example. Step away from the polarization that tends to pervade every issue.
Our nation could surely learn from other nations. We've had a lot of sound and fury in our nation, but interesting empirical data was recently reported about Nordic countries. "On average, the Nordic countries outperform the Anglo-Saxon ones on most measures of economic performance. Poverty rates are much lower there, and national income per working-age population is on average higher. Unemployment rates are roughly the same in both groups, just slightly higher in the Nordic countries....In strong and vibrant democracies, a generous social-welfare state is not a road to serfdom but rather to fairness, economic equality and international competitiveness."
Ah, joe. Sometimes it is sorrow that awakes us to life. :-/ It's good that she has had you for a true friend.
Where would we be without having known real caring?
May the angelic wings of friendship shelter and warm your friend's shoulders as she continues her journey, and may she find and keep in her heart the living flame of what really matters.
as we shift from this massive corporate one-size fits all govenment solution to local government. We are thinking some new forms of local initiatives may develop in the near future somewhat along the lines of what the the scandinavians do, a joint venture between the people, business and govt.
This is wonderful from your son, tseka, the wise one. I believe this is in the cards. The real conflict right now is not between the parties but between Washington and the rest of the country. It will happen along these lines.
Capricorn will start the restructuring from the bottom and eventually these new people will end up in the federal gov't.
On average, the Nordic countries outperform the Anglo-Saxon ones on most measures of economic performance.
In strong and vibrant democracies, a generous social-welfare state is not a road to serfdom but rather to fairness, economic equality and international competitiveness.
This is all going to come down to taxation. America is so stubborn on this issue, but the realities of life will dictate as we move into new territory.
All this pain, sadness, grief, anger, resentment and despair was what I was sensing but thought it was coming from inside me
Some of it is. She is illuminating your own despair as well so this is an opportunity not to run but take an honest look at yourself too.
Neptune can want escape for a while so it might be okay but eventually it's good to make corrections. We all have to do it. And this Scorpio time is revealing some truths to everyone.
British Columbia had this in the early 70's When the New Democratic Party got in breifly.
I heard about this from some Canadians recently. It must have been amazing since they are still talking about it.
While we have the outer planets in the outer signs and Neptune still in Aquarius there should be advances in social reform somewhere, even if not on the screen. The hideous drama we witness daily is probably the surface, although some democratic return of power is advisable soon. The West is changing rapidly and is probably an indicator of trends.
This seems a good point for this song. The lyric reminds us, "Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery; None but ourselves can free our minds." And asks us to help to sing songs of freedom.
* * *
Redemption Song (by Bob Marley)
Old pirates, yes, they rob I;
Sold I to the merchant ships,
Minutes after they took I
From the bottomless pit.
But my hand was made strong
By the 'and of the Almighty.
We forward in this generation
Triumphantly.
Won't you help to sing
These songs of freedom
'Cause all I ever have:
Redemption songs;
Redemption songs.
Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery;
None but ourselves can free our minds.
Have no fear for atomic energy,
'Cause none of them can stop the time.
How long shall they kill our prophets,
While we stand aside and look? Ooh!
Some say it's just a part of it:
We've got to fullfil the book.
Won't you help to sing
This songs of freedom-
'Cause all I ever have:
Redemption songs;
Redemption songs;
Redemption songs.
Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery;
None but ourselves can free our mind.
Wo! Have no fear for atomic energy,
'Cause none of them-a can-a stop-a the time.
How long shall they kill our prophets,
While we stand aside and look?
Yes, some say it's just a part of it:
We've got to fullfil the book.
Won't you have to sing
This songs of freedom? -
'Cause all I ever had:
Redemption songs -
All I ever had:
Redemption songs:
These songs of freedom,
Songs of freedom.
* * *
It's interesting to hear different artistic interpretations of the song:
Joe Strummer, introducing the song, said, "I'd like to say that people -- people can change anything they want to, and that means everything in the world. Show me any country, and there'll be people in it. It's time to take the humanity back into the center of the ring, and follow that for a time. You know, think on that. Without people, we're nothing."
Rihanna's interpretation.
Bob Marley performing his song.
It's time to take the humanity back into the center of the ring, and follow that for a time. You know, think on that. Without people, we're nothing.
This has been my plea through this whole ordeal. We are so many and we hold the power. The whole collective does. This charade is the people's fault just as much for continuing to pit themselves against the elite as victims. The rulers are victims of their own selves. Even more in bondage.
Reggae is my favorite music ever created. I can't explain how magical this creation is from a musical and spiritual perspective. The best Jamaican music like this most people haven't even heard. It's humanity at its best.
May the angelic wings of friendship shelter and warm your friend's shoulders as she continues her journey, and may she find and keep in her heart the living flame of what really matters.
Kadimiros, your words to Joe are some of the most beautiful and touching i have heard. Wings of friendship to shelter and warm one on the journey....there may be a painting in there, i sense one. i will let it sing to me for a bit.
As always, deep gratitude for your sharing.
jm, I went back and reread what you said a few days ago, and it is making sense now. I have been feeling unappreciated at work at times, and have been arranging for discharge of a number of my clients who appear to think they can cancel appts at the last minute without repercussion. O rude awakening! I told them I was ending services because they can't commit to seeing me as required. Most responded with "Whatever" comments but a few spluttered and became defensive. Too bad so sad.
Illusions surrounding my friend are looking tattered in the harsh light of day. I think that with her health issues and the ending of her primary relationship, she has (perhaps understandably) reverted to a more childish state. Mortality can bring out the worst in some people. She is more impulsive than I remember, and more emotionally immature. We can still connect on many levels but I am a little impatient with with her impulsiveness and lack of direction, as well as occasionally salty, blunt comments.
However, I ran her chart (female, born on 19 August 1960 at 5:09 am in Livermore, California.) and OMG but do I ever see where these negative qualities are coming from. They may have been subdued while she was with her partner, but now that she is single, they're rearing up and expressing themselves.
I wonder why I seem to attract emotionally immature individuals. I hope I don't regret her visit after it's all over, because push me far enough and I do erupt.
BTW, Kadimiros and Neith, thank you for your kind words earlier. :o)
"there may be a painting in there, i sense one."
Probably so. Words plus images feels like a powerful way to transmit a blessing. :-)
"I wonder why I seem to attract emotionally immature individuals. I hope I don't regret her visit after it's all over, because push me far enough and I do erupt."
Maybe you are attentive to them, and project a kind of stability or maturity.
It's a very spiritual challenge being with other people whose Pushme-Pullyu dramas may elicit strong reactions, or embroil us in their confusion, whether at work or in private life. We do have to know when to step back and say, "That's not my role." Or, take a breath and say, "Let's come back to this when we're both calmer."
I'm sure you know that sometimes we don't have to do anything for other people except just be ourselves, or even just be. You'll probably know best, however it turns out. :-)
Joe this is absolutely amazing. Your look into yourself warms me to the bone, and this is the kicker....
I wonder why I seem to attract emotionally immature individuals. I hope I don't regret her visit after it's all over, because push me far enough and I do erupt.
You just described in stunningly sharp accuracy your South Node in Cancer. I must do this. Let me get organized. Maybe I don't have to do preliminaries. The Node is so important and I am thrilled at your perception.
This visit is a big event and it will be wise to analyze it.
It's a very spiritual challenge being with other people whose Pushme-Pullyu dramas may elicit strong reactions, or embroil us in their confusion
Amen.
I'm sure you know that sometimes we don't have to do anything for other people except just be ourselves, or even just be.
Amen again. This is a huge one. Some people are meant to do this, some aren't. I see it everywhere and can't speak up. There's a lot of hypocrisy in helping people sometimes. Lots of power issues both ways. It's not that hard to see, especially with astrology, but it takes courage to face one's self and the part played. It's complicated. Good and bad impulses. People think it makes them better people to be helping, but that's not always the case. Sometimes it cripples others even more. Kadimiros is so right to say that sometimes we don't have to interfere. Most of all, we don't know their destinies and should be careful giving advice.
In your case, joe, you are leaving behind excess sympathy with your Cancer South and knowuing when the help is REALLY needed and will be used, or when it's a game. I know this one well as a Cancer.
The cancer South is leaving behind emotional immaturity this lifetime, but I'll go into it in depth. You'll see it everywhere in your life when you connect. Stomach, ruled by Cancer, and the actual cancer are telling a real story, but not the one you might think.
In the end, the emotionally immature ones will often not benefit and your Capricorn maturity will suffer if awareness and caution are not used. People will get the help they need somewhere when ready, so no guilt is necessary.
You also have the famous Neptune in the 7th house of relationships and you can be led down the garden path.
I'm totally amazed by the wisdom here.
Astrology is not some arcane esoteric impossible to grasp science, although some like that complicated approach.
It is a map of the patterns in the psyche and the most accurate way to access the whole picture that I know of. It's serious, illuminating, and completely objective. The chart itself has no agenda. And yet it touches the soul. It's us seeing ourselves and it's profound and beautiful.
It also serves as a mandala when you look at the chart and over time the knowledge comes easier and easier, to those who are humble. I don't see how you can be otherwise when you've experienced the magic of the connection.
The hardest part is owning it and realizing how all that happens to us is an extension of our personal dramas. There is no more important thing than ourselves. The frustration for me has always been the victimization people express and can't shake, feeling powerless against circumstance, and mostly other people. We ARE powerless in a sense against the sum of the outside parts, but self knowledge, I feel, is the antidote. Even with a chart, our understanding of others is limited. And one of our greatest problems is trying to identify with others. We must know first who everyone is. Uniqueness is not prized, yet it is written in stone.
The chart demolishes this concept of victimization and makes us the captains of our ships, the chart being the navigational map as it always has been for sailors. No cure-all potion, just a literal guide.
We can read it and go.
My dream is for this to become common knowledge and our separation established so we can come together with more acceptance and freedom.
And one of my major dictims in life....always always read between the lines. That's where the answers are.
Kadimiros said: Maybe you are attentive to them, and project a kind of stability or maturity.
A different person staying with us until his affairs resolve has been observing this scenario. He pointed out this very same thing to me this morning, independently of my saying anything beyond "I don't know what to do about this one." He has the same problem with "needy" people glomming on to him for support.
I think my challenge is knowing how much support to offer, when to offer, and when to stay out of it.
Pushme-Pullyu dramas
LOL That's about the size of it.
jm wrote: In your case, joe, you are leaving behind excess sympathy with your Cancer South and knowing when the help is REALLY needed and will be used, or when it's a game. I know this one well as a Cancer.
Exactly. My SO and I are both naturally considerate people, but a friend demonstrated incredibly inconsiderate behavior today (after we had been thoughtful toward her many times) and it made me realize how much of this is going on. Just the other day, a friend of my SO who has been a chronic moocher invited himself to stay for a few days. I put my foot down and said "I have too much going on here to put you up for 2 days. You should have called first before coming all that way. You'll have to find somewhere else to stay."
People think it makes them better people to be helping, but that's not always the case. Sometimes it cripples others even more.
OMG jm, you just nailed it. This is THE theme around here in the last month! I've been after my SO to stop coddling and enabling a friend who has been unwilling to face his health issues and financial problems for the last 20 years. my SO has finally taken my advice and washed his hands of this friend. It's sad but the friend is determined to self-destruct. I say, let him. It's the only way he'll learn his lessons.
Amazing how the map is right in front of our eyes, isn;t it!
I've been after my SO to stop coddling
That's my word exactly!!! I use it all the time, it says it so well.
Capricorn is about "helping" people stand on their own two feet and help themselves. Cancer clicks the tongue and nurses the wounds, but Capricorn doesn't. He is more aloof. More effective that way.
It's sad but the friend is determined to self-destruct. I say, let him. It's the only way he'll learn his lessons.
Yes. Part of the game is trying to take others down with them.
Also, we have no way of knowing if this path of destruction will lead them to the right thing. Those lessons. We're remiss in trying to shortchange their destinies. We have no way of knowing what path is right for another. So we're left with knowing what's right for ourselves and then concentrically, the right things will follow.
This is a good subject. Often a Sun in Cancer like me, and always the South Node like you, are moving away from the emotional body into more detachment.
Others like Saturn in Cancer, Cancer rising, Moon in the 1st house, North in Cancer, are moving into emotional connection.
Here are some examples. Juno has the North in Cancer and everyone can feel her coziness and genuine caring. Tseka has the ruler of her Asc in Cancer and she seeks deep emotional connection. Same with Pat and her Moon in the 1st house.
Your SO has North and Saturn in the 4th, so he is also looking for this, but with Saturn, in the right way. Saturn especially spots the fraudulent caring.
The two of us are wise to let others do the nurturing, band-aid placement sometimes while we go on to pursuit of other goals.
Yes. Part of the game is trying to take others down with them.
Also, we have no way of knowing if this path of destruction will lead them to the right thing. Those lessons. We're remiss in trying to shortchange their destinies. We have no way of knowing what path is right for another. So we're left with knowing what's right for ourselves and then concentrically, the right things will follow.
Beautifully said, jm. Misplaced nuturance was something I struggled with to my detriment for many years.
Your analysis of this issue for Joe is exactly why i love it when you do it! What amazes me is how fluently it comes from you . . . a gift it is!! The balance of your Cancer & Kad's Capricorn is another dance that is so beautiful to watch. It enriches us all . . .
It is most definitely a gift and we are all the lucky beneficiaries of it!
I am so moved. Thank you neith and joe. You can't imagine how good this makes me feel.
The balance of your Cancer & Kad's Capricorn is another dance that is so beautiful to watch. It enriches us all . . .
I, too, find this beautifully danceable. It's new to me, all this Capricorn and it's so interesting how natural it is now. All in preparation for the big Pluto transit coming up culminating in the opposition to my Sun. It will be a new life. A public one. Kad's planets are on my MC getting me ready.
I'm learning so much from all of you and this precious exchange. I know I'm going to look back on this when I'm ancient and teetering as one big magic moment in my life.
Big hugs and kisses.
"Capricorn is about 'helping' people stand on their own two feet and help themselves. Cancer clicks the tongue and nurses the wounds, but Capricorn doesn't. He is more aloof. More effective that way."
Are we talking about the role differences between Mom and Dad now? ;-)
Well, ya know, it's not that we can't sympathize, but it might be that we're hyper conscious of consequences.
I recall hearing about a study where counselors who acted most sympathetic were contrasted with counselors who were more willing to push buttons and dig into issues. The former appeared to have better results and happier counselees -- initially. And then the counselees plateaued. By the end of the study, it was clear that the counselees with firmer counselors were the ones who had made real progress.
it's not that we can't sympathize, but it might be that we're hyper conscious of consequences.
Not at all a lack of sympathy. just a different way of showing it. And the need for self respect.
Capricorn is interested in the well being of the group and individual improvement. Too much response to individual demands can cause the whole to disintegrate. Ideally Capricorns know the right blend.
I recall hearing about a study where counselors who acted most sympathetic were contrasted with counselors who were more willing to push buttons and dig into issues. The former appeared to have better results and happier counselees -- initially. And then the counselees plateaued. By the end of the study, it was clear that the counselees with firmer counselors were the ones who had made real progress.
What this reveals, I think, is that sympathy at first might be good for establishing trust, and then to change, some challenging confrontation is called for.
Very interesting. I do this with myself. I've moved past a lot of tears and self absorption on to more adult reckoning, especially since I'm my own parental voice now.
Yes. The study obtained an insight from contrast. In reality, it's interesting to find the optimal balance for each situation or relationship.
Some people very nicely blend both feeling and clarity at the same time. Much good art does, too.
Some people very nicely blend both feeling and clarity at the same time. Much good art does, too.
I've been deeply involved with this issue lately as I sense a departure from some emotionalism in my art and more movement toward the wry humor and social commentary/subtle criticism. More black and white, maybe, and a little more mental.
I am the master of the sad song but through the years people have nudged me away from these. They recognized the skill but overall they seem to prefer my other facets. I am working now on just how much sorrow and pure emotionalism to leave in. This is tricky. I definitely don't like Hallmark card territory, and the world loves it.
A lot of the emotion is not much more than self pity which is all right for some and in some moods, but I wonder if my audience knows and is guiding me correctly.
I had the same dilemma in movie making, trying to decide between black and white and color. I love B&W film and photography. Of course the contrast with color brings its value out even more. In the end I decided on animation, but I still get a feeling of home with B&W, where value, shape, and light and shadow are much clearer. Very exciting.
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