Friday, November 24, 2006


Gonna build a ship of silver and the finest gold
Sails of silk whiter than you've ever seen
Gonna leave this world behind me, leave it all alone
And sail forever on the sea.

I'm gonna sail away
Sail away
Sail away
Sail away
Gonna build a ship and sail away.

23 Comments:

Blogger Neith said...

OMG, those illustrations are Beautiful!! Sailing along is an amazing experience ... providing one doesn't get seasick. Many years ago my uncle took us out on his trimaran on the bay by Bellingham, and let me hold the tiller for a bit. A small boat like that feels alive . . . betcha tseka has sailed a time or two!

24/11/06 4:35 PM  
Blogger Neith said...

jm - I was looking at the chart of my cousin focusing on the Nodes, and decided to get some feedback from you . . . please. She has Sun conjunct NN in Aries sq by Moon/Uranus in Cancer. Here is her birth data: Kestrel, born 26 March 1950 at Seattle, WA 3:48PM

What jumped out at me is the absolute need for her to learn who she is & be true to that self. The emotional seesaw she is on is seriously undermining her health. Some of this I'd seen before but looking at the Nodes crystallized it! Chalk another one up to Nodal Astrology!!

24/11/06 5:37 PM  
Blogger jm said...

This one is fascinating neith. I share the setup.

The story here is emotional battles between the parents, she siding somewhat with her father. The SN in Libra indicates that she witnessed too much compromise and carried this pattern over so that her emotional need now in her life causes the excessive compromise.

The Uranus detachment is a clue. This can free her from the umbilical attachment and fullfil this rather masculine self involved destiny, free to do exactly what she wants.

Giving into people's emotional demands too much is the prob, I think.

24/11/06 5:57 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Absorbing too much hurt from others against her better knowledge causes the physical symptoms. Fear of independence.

24/11/06 5:59 PM  
Blogger Neith said...

The Uranus detachment is a clue. This can free her from the umbilical attachment and fullfil this rather masculine self involved destiny, free to do exactly what she wants.

Both her parents are gone now but she is so much like her dad, it's eerie. She is gay (no surprise) and has a long term partner who is a Sag. She has always been like a younger sister to me. For me, her SN in Libra is conjunct my Neptune/Moon, so it's a delicate line for me to walk. She's another w/Saturn in Virgo who will be facing the Second Saturn Return here in about a year. Thanks!

24/11/06 6:08 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The SN contact is very delicate for you. But on the other hand, your SN in the 1st is the lesson she's learning.

Your best contribution to her development is to turn her back to herself constantly, let her lead, and make her the important one in the relationship dynamic. SN Aries are afraid to stick out. They connect too easily to others. Her father probably gave in too much and she is here to correct the pattern.

24/11/06 6:49 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Let(make:-) her dominate.

24/11/06 6:50 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Another thing is this.

SN Libras often have long successful relationships but deep down that's not what they really want. There is a ball and chain involved. Michael Lutin says:

They're waiting for their partners to die

This is a place they don't like to go. They won't usually give up the partnerships but the strongest urges are ones of separation and independence. Ideally the relationships should push them away to some extent to find identity.

you said it well:

What jumped out at me is the absolute need for her to learn who she is & be true to that self.

Your stake in these scenarios is part of it. The SN in Sag often has the residue of desire to come to the rescue knowing what the right thing is.
This isn't the way this time around. The NN in Gemini is much more of an objective observer. So the step towrd trying to help them out of their troubles sometimes falters. Simple listening is a great way. limited judgement and no solutions other than what they come up with themselves.

24/11/06 8:22 PM  
Blogger Neith said...

The NN in Gemini is much more of an objective observer. So the step towrd trying to help them out of their troubles sometimes falters. Simple listening is a great way. limited judgement and no solutions other than what they come up with themselves.

This is an affirmation of what my intuition was suggesting to me. Getting too involved backfires, period. Moon/Neptune is at it's best compassion, and it's worst, darned bleeding heart pushover. As you well know, with your own dance w/Neptune, we have to stay aware always. Thanks for the input, as always you are a source of great information.

24/11/06 10:31 PM  
Blogger jm said...

darned bleeding heart pushover

Couldenuv said it better myself.

24/11/06 11:01 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Sadges are the wise counselors. Many I know preface their sentences with....s/he needs to...extremely generous with advice sometimes not required. I made up my mind awhile back to interfere only when asked.

It's hard because Sadge sees so much and really does have good sense. And wants people to do well.

With the SN it can be frustrating to see what's wrong but go unheeded. My SN 4th House Sag friend runs aground daily with this and as much as I remind her that they won't do what she says, she can't help herself. It's almost as if they purposely circumvent the wisdom. So the SN doesn't know quite where to put it.

Send it this way. I like it.

24/11/06 11:28 PM  
Blogger Neith said...

Sadges are the wise counselors. Many I know preface their sentences with....s/he needs to...extremely generous with advice sometimes not required. I made up my mind awhile back to interfere only when asked.

Remember that Sag sun/Virgo ASC friend of mine? She continually runs aground giving good but unwanted advice. I'm with you . . . bite my tongue!!

Here's a couple of Nodal tidbits: my Pisces boss's Nodes are exactly opp to mine, only at 10SagNN. Uranus has been squaring both sets of our Nodes since last summer. He has major overscheduling, procrastination problems . . . and what clued me in to looking at his Nodes was the repetition of a an old way of doing things. He's gone back to thinking he'll learn the new computer software programs he just bought for bookkeeping and CAD for designing houses. And I KNOW he won't. His Saturn in Sag is exactly conjunct my Venus, so that's why I think he hasn't decided he can run his business without me . . . though I can feel him thinking about it. His Cap ASC keeps wanting to keep it in the family, literally. Oh yah, his Gemini Moon is exactly conjunct his SN. :-)

tseka is/lives the life my SN in Sag did many times. She is also about the best Sag in my acquaintance who is conscious in her advice giving. Her MC is conjunct my SN.

Once you start looking at patterns involving the Nodes, it's one "Ah Ha" after another!! zipadee do dah!! :-)

25/11/06 10:44 AM  
Blogger jm said...

Neith I am so excited.

The nodal ooposites in charts are absolutely amazing. And this is uncanny. My sister and I have the opposite nodes at 10 degrees too! My favorite aunt and only role model has my exact 10 degree Taurus node. She is also involved with my sister. The feeling of destiny is unmistakable.

He's gone back to thinking he'll learn the new computer software programs he just bought for bookkeeping and CAD for designing houses. And I KNOW he won't.

So right. The SN in Gemini is through with all the detailed learning and is ready to move on to bigger philosophical issues.

Very very interesting about how you fit in. You probably are a conduit to his escape from too much family. The Moon conjunct the South is getting away from the mother's influence. You as a women with the opposite nodes are there to teach him about where he could be headed.

You can take over some of the Gem jobs and free him up if he realized what a perfect arrangement this could be.

The Moon is tripping him up but the Uranus transit is an opportunity. Interesting how you both have family stuff now with the transit.

I always liked Buz Myers' desciption of the SN having all the ancient information about that function. We've mastered it. This is why it's redundant in the present incarnation. When planets tie in, though, it's harder and takes longer as repetition has to occur, but the person knows deep down they want to move on. So people with the opposites know how much they can learn from one another.

25/11/06 2:35 PM  
Anonymous tseka said...

Oh wise ones it thrills me when you talk of the nodes.

It was the door that opened into astrology for me. I was reading in Ayurveda, ran across vedic astrology, the nodes were the only part that really made sense to me. And here this has bloomed. Thanks.

25/11/06 3:30 PM  
Blogger jm said...

It was the door that opened into astrology for me.

This is more than I ever expected. I knew when I found the reality of the nodes I had the treasure. The simple puzzle of any chart. I've been holding the information for so long as if in the copper lined box waiting for the moment of dissemination.

The struggle to reach the North is universal and this opportunity to share is part of the attempt to get to the North and find fulfillment.

So I thank YOU.

I guess this means that you all are willing to go down the nodal path in depth.:-)

I was just meandering on the Bridge thread about this precious time ahead and I'm becoming a believer myself!

25/11/06 3:48 PM  
Anonymous tseka said...

The nodes and your knowledge of then are indeed the rolled up memories stored in those copper-lined boxes waiting thougg the frostyears for the right spring. It's here.

The copper-lined boxes open unexpectedly this is what make them so illuminating, when the light pours out.

I read a book a few years back that introduced me to the solstice myth from the celtic view. It is where is learned the story of Ellen who carried the light underground, protecting it though the darkest days then re-emerging at the long night (the mothernight) before solstice, she waited as the gate grew permeable and as the sun rose on soltice morning she passed the light into the waiting hands of Thomas her perpetual soul's mate. Enlightening him her earth couterpart.

Shocked, i called my father who is very psychic and asked him why they chose the name ellen for me....he said it was a strange thing how that happened for they had another name picked out, and in the moment after my birth my mother simply said "her name is ellen". So i was born during a blizzard on the longest night and my beloved's name is Thomas. In fact the only men (lovers) in my life have been named Thomas. The tale grows stranger if i tell you more. The question always is: Who whispers in our ears?

25/11/06 4:40 PM  
Blogger Neith said...

tseka, when Jupiter is a 2Sag Dec 4-6, he will be squaring your Nodes. Perhaps this will be a time when the next clue will be given to you. I'm feeling that when the Gasman squares your Moon after the first of the year, he will inspire & provide for some real change in your life. Jupiter was last in Sagittarius in '95/'96. But this time Pluto & the GC are part of the visit.

While my naming wasn't as dramatic as yours, I'm certainly glad my mom's choice won out over my dad's of Kathy. :-)

25/11/06 4:51 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Oh please...Kathy. Not for you.

Would you like to know my middle name? I believe now is the time.

Helen.

25/11/06 7:00 PM  
Blogger Neith said...

Speaking of middle names . . . mine is Ruth. We got the classics, no doubt about it!

Hey, please go check out the new look on my blog . . . since I moved into the beta version, it has lots easier tools for making changes. Us true Uranian types will take our changes wherever we can!!

25/11/06 7:09 PM  
Anonymous tseka said...

Well Diane/Neith these both suit you nicely, in my opinion. And the myths harmonize well.

Helen? Paying attention the hel myth and ullr? You've been named, marked a light carrier.

25/11/06 8:42 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I'm amazed tseka.

The beauty of others helping us connect to our identities. The opposite of tearing down, diminishing, ignoring.

I have always had a hard time owning this middle name of Helen. Yet my partner used to call me by that one, never my first. He said it with a mixture of humor and seriousness I never quite fully understood. It was rich. He had a Saturn in sagittarius.

I see myself in a new "light" now, thanks to you. Illumination all over the place as we approach the solstice. I'm looking at those 4 days.

25/11/06 10:25 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The tale grows stranger if i tell you more.

I'm all ears. And I've got the time.

The question always is: Who whispers in our ears?

Man, I love this. It evokes all kinds of feelings as a musician hearing other/interworld sounds.

I would add....

whose ears do we choose to whisper in?

25/11/06 10:30 PM  
Blogger Kadimiros said...

The whispers are carried by the wind whispering truth through centuries.

30/11/06 11:00 PM  

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