Give Us This Day
I had a house once, with a kitchen table overlooking my garden, and I loved to eat while watching my vegetables develop and thrive, especially my green peppers. This is a great way to synchronize with natural growth cycles. Sometimes it's hard to know our own personal growth cycles, but they're in there. Observing the crops and the stars are fine ways to get in tune.
Photo from the Minnesota Historical Society
posted by jm at 5:30 PM
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last night, chrispito and I got into a wonderful discussion about Capricorn and manners, below on the Breaking News thread. She told a great tale.
There are a number of Cap Moons here for some reason, as well as a booming 3-planet-in-Capricorn poster, as well as a booming two-planet-NN one, and I must admit, I like the courtesy.
I had a mixed bag in my family, and this society is pretty mixed up itself in this regard.
But when I look at the table above, the sensation it arouses is relief, pleasure, and relaxation.
I still harbor the hope that the Capricorn years will bring dignity to the environment. The seeds are there already, as this bit of history shows.
I hope so, too. What a lovely photo, taken not so far from here. :o)
I'm sorry I have been unable to participate in the discussions. That lovely
Saturn-Neptune egg that I created not long ago shattered. The window nearby was open on a warm day and the wind was stronger than I expected. The drying rack blew over and tossed the egg to the floor.
Needless to say, I haven't felt like myself lately. :o(
At my previous home, I was blessed with low and wide windows overlooking my paradisaical third-of-an-acre garden, from both the breakfast nook and the dining room.
I hope to be as blessed again some day.
Oh not that beauty, oh Joe, so sorry.
Greetings to all!
Sorry to hear that Joe, I would have liked to have seen it. Make another, you have another chance to charge it. Saturn-neptune is shaking the house down here. When I do blog lately it's been politcal, I'm marching and calling...god, I am a pitifully hopeful anarchist. Do give your attention to the eclipse coming up. It is also the fifth anniversary of this ghastly war. The march on WashingtonDC is that day as well. And that lovely pluto/galactic center square. Good time for meditation, if'n youse know what I mean... Take care y'all, Juno
PS, jm, I left a message on the tsunami thread...:)
Joe. What can I say.
Things like this happen to me sometimes, but I've gotten philosophical. I know the creativity remains and I can do it over and over.
When you recover, which seems to be happening, please come and talk. I've missed you.
I'll check your transits. You know the answer is there..:-)
All I can say is that I'm glad I got the chance to see that beauty before it made its shocking decision.
Oopss, actually counted back...four years since this expletive deleted war....Time sure flies while your having fun...
Juno!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We were crossposting!
god, I am a pitifully hopeful anarchist.
Me too! I've been waiting on my anarchist post!
So completely happy to see you. I think the war is winding down and the lessons will sink in as the Mars retro progression gets going. Sad episode. Thankfully the country wants it to be over.
I was blessed with low and wide windows overlooking my paradisaical third-of-an-acre garden, from both the breakfast nook and the dining room.
Oh that sounds good. Blessings do come again. we live long enough to get a few go rounds.
The march on WashingtonDC is that day as well. And that lovely pluto/galactic center square.
I didn't realize that. I admire you so much for participating. you have a lot of strength to stick with it.
I have many ideas about the war and the Pluto transit ending now. Maybe after Saturn and Neptune get through with you, we can toss some theories around.
I also think this eclipse is big coupled with the nodal conjuction with Uranus.
There are pics? I must have missed that. Which thread? The symbolism is actually very haunting. The structure (egg/ saturn) meets dissolution (neptune). You have put energy into this, Joe, and it has been released to follow your intent. Something will grow out of this:)
I think so too. Juno it's amazing that you bring this up. I agree completely about intent.
Tonight my girlfriend was in tears as she has been for a week over her dog's death. It was a special dog. I noticed it.
But tonight in the torrent, she showed me a picture of a spindly plant she's had for four years, that suddenly bloomed in a huge flower the exact color of the dog that died. The day after he death. Another dog in the household had been lying under the flower since it bloomed. I was entranced by this, and I know why I like her so much.
Joe's egg loss reminds me of this and the Saturn/Neptune.
jm!!!! yes we are at the same bat channel, same bat time! How are you?! I agree about the wind down. I think I'm really starting to get a grasp on what pluto in sag really is about and what pluto in cap is likely to bring. I think this eclipse cycle is huge...had forgotten about uranus!!! oh my... my chakras are humming with the energy right now. I haven't slept well for days. I can't wait to toss some theories about. As I said in reply to the tsunami post, I've felt it as well. I think the sudden weather weirdness has a lot to do with it.
The link to the egg is just above in joe's comment. It really is a beauty.
Oh juno I'm thrilled! Would love to discuss these little things with you, since you are in the thick of it.
I mentioned a couple of times that violence has decreased in the world by a large amount in the last 20 years and the trend is continuing.
I think this war in the birthplace of our civ has been a turning point for everyone. The religious failure, and the human failure at conflict resolution. I think we all were drawn into the karma. There's so much. I would love love love to hear your insights on the Pluto transit. Now's a good time as it's ending. We always go up a notch in evolution with Pluto.
I'm so excited. The tsunami theory is a major interest of mine. Time can't actually be altered without having some impact.
Go eclipse!!!!!!!!!
Anyhoo, come 'round, and when you have a minute we can delve to our hearts' content.
I keep thinking about the buddhas destroyed by the taliban in afghanistan. Two thousand years of buddha energy released...I mourn their loss but suspect it will bite the perps in the ass. Same with the chinese destruction of tibetan items during their purges, maybe that's the reason I am fortunate to have a buddhist temple in one of the suites of our building. Nice nun runs it. She came into the shop the other day wearing her robes (of course) a large undescript jacket and the most colorful multi-color- but-mostly pink watchcap I have ever seen. I complimented her on it because it was very cute and it was obviously one of the few personal things she had chosen to express herself...and my shop IS all about color...anyhoo, she laughed and admitted how anxious she had been the other day thinking she had lost it,"It's funny," she said, "I know I shouldn't be attatched to things, but I would have been sad had I lost it."...She holds daily meditation at luchtime and a couple eves a week. I think I might go to a couple of her meditations.
Well, I'm here, dahling, don't hold back. I'm perfectly willing to sit and chat. Maybe make a big pot of chamomile tea...
Juno, you are adorable. What a treat.
Maybe the destruction of the buddhas will release the energy in other forms like joe's egg.
They really are icons, as beautiful as they are, and maybe this is part of the Pluto in Sag lesson about genuine worship.
It seems we have to go back to start and find our own symbols. Like you going to the meditations.
I don't think the Buddhas are lost. They're alive to me, since I particularly love that image.
I know I shouldn't be attatched to things, but I would have been sad had I lost it."...
Speaking of cute. Hey! We gotta wear something! Might as well love it.
Sh..t I hadn't thought of that. Almost a buddhist meditation in itself... Got the kettle on do you take lemon or honey? :)
Arrgh! I MEANT>>>
"They really are icons, as beautiful as they are, and maybe this is part of the Pluto in Sag lesson about genuine worship...."... THEN, well take it as read...
Oh, honey, I take it all!
In reference to
do you take lemon or honey? :)
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Howls of Laughter! But you blues girls are the best at innuendo!
OMG! Are you ever right about the innuendo!
juno, I've been thinking a lot about Sagittarius and religious symbolism. I feel that in Sag, we desire tangible evidence of god and many of us Sag types like the symbols. But the desecration of the right behavior has gotten out of hand, as usual.
It seems in history we go through these phases where idols are destroyed, and the attempt to bring morality in is assumed again.
I don't know what it will take for people to be righteous naturally. But I'm ready.
I always thought of Iraq as humanity's boil, where all this religious sewage came bursting out. Iraq has heavy karma. The whole history of murder for profit in God's name. It's interesting to me that the cradle of civilization is also the crossroads of the world's wealth.
Pluto (wealth), Sagittarius (religion). Something must be getting through to these knuckleheads on this planet.
So... I'm curious about your take on things, the enrgy is so palpable it could be arrested for assalt...mars and chiron I guess...on my DC no less... I think this new moon has a few cards up her sleeve...
Btw, the eclipse is at 28, exactly square the stationing Pluto. I know something is getting through. The war started at 29 Pisces, destined for complete failure, confusion, and rerouting.
Everone knows something's wrong here. And it's Viet Nam taken to the higher power. Now I see why we had further to go in the lesson.
Symbols...I made a whole bunch of devotional candles for the store... found those tall jar candles at a wholesale place cheap and found multiple images of different systems to put on them. I just print out the pics and modge-podge them on. I got thinking about what attrcted me to these candle, even the traditional christian ones...the symbols and the greater meaning of them. I love symbols, but I bask in the greater meaning...
the energy is so palpable it could be arrested for assalt
LOL!!!!!!
I'm getting it too.
Go Mars on the DSC!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is getting interesting to me, and I'm so glad you're involved. I agree about this Moon.
I never felt like this thing was our doing. I felt we were drawn into a metaphysical situation, as an example to the world. The way the whole thing goes round and round like a vortex going nowhere is fascinating. Useless bombs, no mission, no nothing. It has a fantasy feel to it, but no wonder with 29 Pisces.
I felt all along that the NN in Pisces transit with Uranus was going to be the end of it, but on many levels. I could be wrong, but I don't see us in another war like this for some time. I think we might be going into self defense mode and a reworking of the military.
But this is global, and coincides with the downturn in violence.
Another interesting part to me is the way the people are out of it. It's the frikkin politicians doing and it's their job to get us out. Kind of a new thing. People holding them responsible, and not whining so much. very different from carrying signs.
We have to face the fact that war is here on earth, but maybe it's time to think about it more clearly. Figure something out with the vast intelligence known to these creatures called human.
..."Everone knows something's wrong here. And it's Viet Nam taken to the higher power. Now I see why we had further to go in the lesson"...
I know. This whole episode has felt really personal to me. Chiron was on my sun and moon on 9/11. It now stands on my DC (w/ mars for the moment). I feel a sense of cycles changing...I feel there is also a saturn-return going on for some date we cannot pinpoint, The negotiations to keep the hostages in Iran until the election in '80. Or something even earlier. I seen a few other echoes of the last saturn in leo about, and it has been haunting...
I love symbols, but I bask in the greater meaning...
Me too. The devotional impulse is wired in the brain. We have to do it somehow. And some hallucinogenics get the Jesus-God thing going I've noticed...:-)
I think you're right! The hostages! I'm gonna try to piece this together. Iran figures in, and I've always thought they were in cahoots, even now.
I feel a sense of cycles changing
I think they are. It's been suggested that we go into a new one every time Pluto passes the Galactic Center.
9/11 was the biggie with Pluto on the USA ASC and a change in identity, or a coming home to the real one.
I think the trade towers coming down meant an end to our economic game, and a start to a new path for this country.
As Pluto transits the 2nd house, we'll have to figure something out, especially with our SN there, Neptune coming.
..."People holding them responsible, and not whining so much. very different from carrying signs."...
I have been seeing this in the forums. And people are actually trying to engage in real dialougue about the shit that's been tearing us up since whenever.
And sometimes I'm just happy that people are catching up. I have waited thirty years too long to hear serious discussions everything from alternitive fuels to legalization of hemp in all it's forms. And I think this neptune/uranus mutual recption is manifested as the internet and our growing connections with each other. We are dipping into the waters of oneness and finding it's not so bad as we were told it would be...
..."Iran figures in, and I've always thought they were in cahoots, even now."...
In case you haven't heard, Halliburton is moving their offices to Dubai, so they freely trade with all sides in this war.
One main thing is our Pluto return, and this is what I think.
We have Pluto in Capricorn, which means an innate ability to tear down and rebuild government successfully. I think we are in the disintegration now, and economic restructuring is just ahead with Pluto in the 2nd, and a strengthening of local government. I already see this happening. Demographics are changing radically, as part of the restructuring.
The best thing of all would be for those of us who care about society to find niches at home where we can influence the environment. Not fixating so much on the elite rulers and all of that. Natural events will take care of them.
But the most interesting
part will be to see how war figures into the equation. If violence is diminishing, then the age old weapons industry will too, as other things become profitable.
I have been seeing this in the forums. And people are actually trying to engage in real dialougue about the shit that's been tearing us up since whenever.
This is fantastic juno!! I haven't been reading the blogs so I'm thrilled to get this information.
I have waited thirty years too long to hear serious discussions everything from alternitive fuels to legalization of hemp in all it's forms. And I think this neptune/uranus mutual recption is manifested as the internet and our growing connections with each other. We are dipping into the waters of oneness and finding it's not so bad as we were told it would be...
YESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!
And so beautifully beautifully stated. You are a good one!
You know the last time Neptune was in Aquarius the telegraph was invented which changed communication forever. Well, here we are again. The universal mind. The new age telegraph, and I am so so excited.
Juno, I try to be realistic about all of it. The rulers and their wars which have always been going on. It's also the masses who want the commodities, so everyone's in it together. It's a big mistake to think that the commoners are better than the elite. They're all bad in their own ways, as the masses aspire to that higher status. Lying, cheating, stealing, murdering, and what-not, are done universally.
It would be great if somewhere down the line, some good people would influence the situation. I think they do, really, but we don't hear about it.
We're not doing as bad as some say, I don't think. A tiny bit of evolution has occurred.
YES! I feel much the same way about the pluto/cap return! I feel the players who upset us so for the last few years are rather suddenly going to be made irrelavent. A few of these have been around for as long as 50 or 60 (sat return redux?)... chiquita, ie: 'united fruit' (blast from the past, eh?) just got ordered to pay millions (50-60) of dollars for hiring people who hired right wing 'terrorists' to run their banana plantations in Columbia and possibly smuggle cocaine since this is what this particular militia does for money... Peak oil and a growing sense of locality is going to make them irrelavant, the enviroment and the earth herself will make them irrelavant. Many christians are publicly splitting off from the mega-church congregations over their enviromental stances. Damn, now we can all at least agree on SOMETHING, eh? It's going to be hard at times, but for the first time in awhile I have some real hope for us all.
We will always have are problems, we are humans dammit, but there are some horribly artificial divides that are becoming more and more transparent. We love each other's cooking, and we love each other's music. We'll deal. I think we'll grow out of it someday...I mean look how far we've come. Weird to think, but when I was born there was still segregation. And girls had to wear dresses to school or else...
Peak oil and a growing sense of locality is going to make them irrelavant, the enviroment and the earth herself will make them irrelavant
Absodamnlutely!
This is a big one of mine. The earth is in charge here, not us. She knows what she's doing. We're her creations. There is an overall balance in life as it continues unabated. Things work out.
Many christians are publicly splitting off from the mega-church congregations over their enviromental stances.
Very telling.
but for the first time in awhile I have some real hope for us all.
I can't tell you how glad I am you stopped by, juno. I feel this way too. I've always had hope for myself, and a big trust in life, but I'm out here with the public now because of this new turn. I don't stay around gloom. I live in 330 days of frippin' sunshine, after all!!
All the Pisces transits square the Jupiter and Pluto in Sag are about this renewed faith for us all. There's a vacillation with the Pisces despair, but Pluto will leave us with hope. This I'm sure of.
I mean look how far we've come. Weird to think, but when I was born there was still segregation. And girls had to wear dresses to school or else...
I read a great piece on this. How far we've really come from the days when human atrocities were perfectly acceptable. Poeple are reluctant to see the positive, but it comes anyway.
And my dear, as we are saggies both...optimism is always on tap!
It's really ridiculous. This belief in a dark and horrible universe. Everthing is contained in life. Shadow and light. We can see that every day in our lives. Those that perpetuate the hardships are only a part of the fabric.
LOL! both our posts are at 12:03! We are sags, merrily talking over one another but following the conversation perfectly!!!!
And my dear, as we are saggies both...optimism is always on tap!
I'm drunk on it. Too many all-nighters! I always overdo.
Heee, did it again, go for three? I agree tho..."It's really ridiculous. This belief in a dark and horrible universe."
LOL on our merry cross posting!!
My mother said to me many many years ago, that my bubble would burst, concerning my love relationship. 25 years later, it was still bubbling in the air. Never did burst.
That's hilarious! Three!!!!
We've got the fastest peckin'ist fingers known to humankind!
plus. It would appear to the intelligent and well-informed that those of us who have just been through the Pluto mill, are now recovering and reaping the rewards!
Oh wait!!! Pluto is bee-lining toward my Mars. Oh well. It's old hat by now.
We're pretty resilient that way really. Maybe that's why others sometime percieve us to be a little fickle. Yes, sags are prone to losing interest, I admit. But we also tend to put things behind us that others would brood on or mourn over. That can be a good thing in a relationship as well.
"We've got the fastest peckin'ist fingers known to humankind!"...
LOL! Just gabbing away!
Where's your mars?
I think that the resiliency is one of Sag's stellar traits. I treasure this to no end. I can get back up on the horse in one second flat.
Fickle???? Me??????
Footloose and fancy free too.
But we also tend to put things behind us that others would brood on or mourn over. That can be a good thing in a relationship as well.
Very very very good for relationships. Live and let live. Bygones and all that wonderful suff.
Yup. The lucky ones who get involved with Sadges. If they can!
My Mars is 0 Libra in the 6th house and it's a PAIN!!!! Having to get back into relationships at square one with my SN in the 7th. How cruel can it get????
Of course. Mars in the 6th. Precision. And you've got Merc there.
Ya know, juno. Your Saturn in Aquarius in the 7th just jumped out at me bigtime. What a beauty. NN in Cancer. Nourishing the people. Even the husband.
That rascal saturn...it's funny, with the fifth house sun, I've never lacked for love, but most of my relationships ultimatly have had a utilitarian bent. We've either worked together at various times or at least planned to...neptune sitting on it (with sat opp) is making me a little woogy tho.
And this is really amazing. I'm seeing the full extent of it now. No wonder.
Leo rising.
Ruling Sun in the 5th in Sagittarius
Moon in Sagittarius.
Ruling Jupiter of the Sadge in Aries in the 9th.
Is this fire or what?
Jeeziss.
Oh yeah, that Neptune parking his butt on your Saturn. With all your fire. He'll be gone in time.
You always say that your "silences" are due to that woog inducing Neptune, so maybe, if I get really lucky, when he drifts away, you'll show up now and again for some GOOD TIMES!!!!!!
You remember my Moon at 22 sag, Jup at 20? That's a lotta combined gas between us.
Yeah, I can't wait (hint hint) to find out about cancer north node. I feel there is something there I need to understand. We've talked before about reincarnation (and it got us into a pile of doo :) )I get the felling I am coming out of a male life into a female one. The cancer/cap sums it up so well. It is easy for me to fall back on my SN sometimes. So many planets there. All inner planet comfort food.
Juno! Jupiter is coming. It hasn't even really gotten going yet!
A pile of doo????
Heavens!
I'm coming from a female one to a male. No doubt about it. I see the reverse easily for you. I want to get into this a little later. Musing about these lives.
The nodes are spectacular and this trip through them is turning into a mythological journey for me. I can see from the response that it's touching real chords in people and this moves me so much.
It will be wonderful when we get to yours. I'm so glad you'll be here. I'm particularly fond of the NN in Cancer and the Aquarius mix.
"You remember my Moon at 22 sag, Jup at 20? That's a lotta combined gas between us."
LOL! That's right. I've still got your chart in my astrodienst acct. I'll have to look it up. As it is my brain is 'yesyes' and my body is starting to desert me.
Thank you for chatting awhile here with me. I needed some of your good sense and pragmatism, I think. I like this place. The people here make me feel happy and balanced. You don't get that just everywhere.
It's taken me a good 20 years of effort with my SN, and still I'm stuck. But Pluto just hit them and I might be getting loose. It's so interesting that you showed up just now, as this week was pivotal on all of this.
Just maybe, I can get a little piece of the North.
Juno.
I am happy beyond belief. I love you. What a great evening. Lotta heart in that so-called body.
And take care of that body. There are wars to be ended and we need you.
Thanks jm, I'll be back soon. I'm starting a PT job baking desserts for a restaurant opening across the street from my shop. Cajun-creole. I'll save a piece of pecan pie for you. Love, Juno
oh, juno, Thank you!!! And good news. New things for my favorite chef.
Can't wait to see you again!
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