Monday, August 27, 2007

Full Moon Eclipse in Pisces and
Saturn in the 29th Degree

Saturn is in the anaretic degree of Leo for eight days, set off by the full Moon in Pisces. The shadow of Saturn has completed its darkening of the light of leadership. The existing U.S. president, who has Leo rising, has fallen from dictator cum king to ? Pluto in Leo on the man's ascendant has done a good job of demolition, removing outworn and decayed matter from the halls of power. Those jumping in hysterical agitation, missing every beat, with unembarrassed uncontrolled lust for the soon to be vacated position, are further illuminating the country's lack of leadership. Somehow, I think the people get it.

Bombs are going off daily in a war that makes no sense whatsoever, and society, at least in this lost nation, has no idea what's happening or where it's going.

Job finished to perfection. The new Moon in Leo, full in Pisces is a fitting finale to this engaging show that offered tragedy, comedy, slapstick, some guitar playing, and a few tears from the swamp creatures. It's leaving the audience with a cliffhanger for an ending, and there will be no epilog as the curtain opens on the next production, more subdued I'm afraid, but easier on the emotional body and the fiery ethers that could use a break.

I 'm watching the upcoming week with interest to see what sensations will penetrate the psyche as this Saturn in Leo leaves the planet with new knowledge deposited about personal significance. And who's in charge? Certainly not me.

22 Comments:

Blogger jm said...

Didn't take long. Gonzales is out and he's got 6 planets in Leo. Neat. I love perfect timing.

27/8/07 12:32 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Well they say Saturn leaves his gifts on the threshold on his way out.

Life is apop'n around we pisces-folk here, mysterious stuff which as my son said earlier the "irrational answer" is the only one a rational mind can accept.

-time to wiggle the antennas and turn up the protective field-

Last night's conversation is still rolling around. Lots of tibits dovetail with this time period 1919-1933.

27/8/07 12:44 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Oh that was absolutely wonderful! The dovetails last night. As a result I have song lyrics all over the house at the moment.

mysterious stuff which as my son said earlier the "irrational answer" is the only one a rational mind can accept.

There he goes again.

-time to wiggle the antennas and turn up the protective field-

This is what I'm going to work on. The immunity. Maybe get a Nobel Prize.

The more I think about it, the more Saturn in virgo trine Pluto in Capricorn appeals to me.

27/8/07 12:56 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Something popped with the Depression and the country got up and started dancing. There is a connection to the weight of money, power, and accumulation. As prosperity took hold, the music went into decline. Dance music became machine-like and now it's completely devoid of rhythm and feeling.

Interestingly, it was Uranus in Aries that took the dance craze over the top. Jazz migrated to the rural areas and Western Swing was born. The whole country would dance together either in the dance halls or by the radio broadcasts. Saturn was in Capricorn.

Odd? No? Dancing with Aries-Capricorn. Uranus is a jumpy one.

Maybe accumulated money is dead weight, thus making the utility view a good one.

27/8/07 1:08 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

ja, the money thing- it was part of the conversation. My son's big interest following how money works through time periods.

W/O getting in deep we pondered the Kilowatt as a unit for money- an interesting idea. Money in past was based on something of value in trade. Now it is worthless paper with arbitrary value. We could base it on work- energy as a fair trade. kWh is a measure of energy that can be measured out with computers to huge degree. Imagine work and energy that we expend being our "like-kind". For example 1.34 horsepower equals a kilowatt. Man, people who actually work could be compensated fairly.

We had fun with it...

27/8/07 1:19 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Fascinating ideas. It's interesting how much sense electrical details make to mankind. I think they see kilowatts on their bills and pay willingly, while gas and oil cause problems.

The big question has been, "Do people get paid for time or by salary". Who is the deciding one? The clock or the boss? Capricorn questions.

It's funny to think about. Measured energy output and payment. Fairly? Man would find the injustice!

27/8/07 2:06 PM  
Blogger m.p.k. said...

Measured energy output and payment.

But how do you measure efficiency in the equation? People often waste lots of energy on simple tasks, especially people new to a job. Maybe we should be paid on who accomplishes the task with the least energy?

27/8/07 2:12 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Here are some ideas on the Virgo-Pisces opposition.

The mutual reception (Uranus-Neptune) has been behind all these delusions for the past few years. And the Saturn-Neptune helped that along. People are wondering what force is in charge, so the conspiracy theories really took off, typical Neptunian paranoia.

This reminds me of penicillin and the force of hidden bacteria dominating mankind. He thought he gained power over this force by killing the offenders.

So here we are again with some conspiracy out to get the human. And senseless killing at 29 Pisces in the cradle. Saturn in Virgo should start to categorize and systemize so people can see more logically the force they fear. Pisces is so vast and nebulous. It asks for virgo to make it understandable.

I would watch the progress of the war resolution as a symbol of this developing critical factor as Saturn moves through Virgo.

27/8/07 2:14 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Maybe we should be paid on who accomplishes the task with the least energy?

Unfair. Picketers would unite. Inequality.

Maybe we whould let the people decide what they're worth and come up with their own figure.

27/8/07 2:17 PM  
Blogger Neith said...

This discussion on money as utility and being in motion clicked a memory but I can't quite place it yet. Blockage (Saturn in Fixed Leo) caused by obsessing over a sense of lacking security(Pluto) does seem to be about to be cleared out. It bugs me that I can't remember exactly where i first ran into the idea of allowing money to flow thru rather than hang on to every penny grimly. Are we in the process of completely redefining what makes us feel secure? Because that's what it's beginning to feel like to me. :-)

27/8/07 2:22 PM  
Blogger jm said...

That is hilarious now that I think about it. I'd bet th farm that they would end up with less and the big bosses would gain. They're all so dumb. If not monetary gain, then at least output. Conscience would kick in. They really are missing some screws.

27/8/07 2:23 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Are we in the process of completely redefining what makes us feel secure? Because that's what it's beginning to feel like to me.

I think that's it in a nutshell, neith. Pecan.

27/8/07 2:24 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Take this, for example.

Scorpio and the 8th house are how we exchange goods, so they govern how we get paid. Pluto is Scorpio, Capricorn is monetary systems. Do I see changes in the workplace in our crystal ball?

In terms of security, it used to be 30 years with the firm and then the gold watch. Now what? health care? Child care? Stock shares in the company? There's no future now, so what will security mean?

When Pluto(security fears) opposes Cancer (security fears) there will be some activity in this regard.:-)

27/8/07 2:30 PM  
Blogger jm said...

i first ran into the idea of allowing money to flow thru rather than hang on to every penny grimly.

That's a revealing statement. "Grimly" is the word. Inability to release causes depression? Pluto in the USA second. Zanex and pennies?

27/8/07 2:34 PM  
Blogger Neith said...

That's a revealing statement. "Grimly" is the word. Inability to release causes depression? Pluto in the USA second. Zanex and pennies?

Exactly!! :-) The Pluto in Cancer generation seemed to be prone to the "scarcity mentality". It's very, very hard to move beyond that too but we must if we are ever to be truly free. Isn't the North Node in Pisces the place that really understands how to be a lily of the field?

27/8/07 2:45 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Isn't the North Node in Pisces the place that really understands how to be a lily of the field?

Nice way of saying it. The transit should leave us with some progress. Then the NN will travel the USA second.

There's no doubt that money consciousness is up for revision. I know it is for me personally, especially with the Taurus-Scorpio nodes.

The more I study it, the more I think the Pluto in Cancer generation will be balanced by Pluto in Capricorn. The 2nd-8th house transits coming up are astonishing with the repeats. Greed got us all into this current mess, so control can get us out. Not that complicated. I think we're sensing this. Time to come to terms with our personal finances.

Every person that leaves the government now is a symbol, so it's worth paying attention to, since it seems to be a continuing stream. Exodus from the White House Garden.

27/8/07 3:04 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Isn't the North Node in Pisces the place that really understands how to be a lily of the field?

Of course with NN in Pisces i am curious as to the meaning. Can you educate me?

Google offers
**christian, "worry not about the morrow" to live each day like a lily of the field. ...

**Lily The Hebrew name shushan or shoshan, i.e., "whiteness",
which is a bit mind blowing as this is very, very close to the word in Lushootseed for -white, Home of our ancestor ancestor, shamanic. Basically outside time...

**MEDICINAL - Feng Shui believers hold the lily as an emblem of summer and abundance; to the Chinese, lily means "Forever in love" ...

Can i pick my own??

27/8/07 4:20 PM  
Anonymous Joe said...

"Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they neither toil nor spin, yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. (Matt. 6:28-29)"

Sometimes that book has something good to say. :o)

This topic is something I think of a lot... every month, the bills get paid in spite of my worrying, so I try not to worry and know the money will come from somewhere.

27/8/07 4:25 PM  
Blogger jm said...

It's all in the association. I cross over and think of water lilies, temples, floating, and probably a connective tissue underneath that gives the flowers security in the water.

There is a lot to think about. If we have emotional collective connection, maybe the need for so much acquisition would diminish. Since I started RU, I've purchased almost nothing. Just not tempting. Commodities have a way of being exciting in the bag and when immediately opened, but the speed with which they lose their luster is astonishing. Coming out of the bag is the greatest!

In the last few days, now that this government is no longer threatening, there has been talk about people leaving blogging to make more money, expressing dismay at the lack of remuneration. But isn't that the good part? Why are people so fixated on money being the defining factor in value of time spent/effort?

I've had this talk so many times with people and they never ever answer my questions about the meaning of money. This is underlying the ME conflict going back to the temples.

Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they neither toil nor spin

That would describe NN in Pisces. I think the Pisces node is pretty much allowing things to come by happenstance. Same result, less effort and frustration.

every month, the bills get paid in spite of my worrying, so I try not to worry and know the money will come from somewhere.

In some ways it provides a convenient hook for the general worry that's part of the human condition. Actually, if you think about it, why not? It's as good as any worry. Maybe better.

27/8/07 4:48 PM  
Blogger jm said...

It does get a little psychotic at times though. My associate who says nothing at all but, "I can't pay my bills. I'm so afraid." She lives in a home worth $500,000.

27/8/07 4:51 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The NN in Pisces sees the whole picture. All the labor, anxiety, have/have-not, etc. are futile. The same things result whether you try and control events or not.

Since we're learning that now you can see it in the disintegration of the current government. All the effort these last years seemed to bring no results. I remember distinctly the weekend years ago when the crowd waited for Rove to leave. That was the weekend we spun into ecstasy talking about spiritual matters. You all remember that. I knew he wasn't leaving. And why was that so important?

Then the thing happened on its own at the right time. Would it have happened if the painful attempt to control hadn't occurred? Probably.

It can drive one crazy, Not knowing if effort is worth it. And it doesn't matter. We'll continue to try too hard never knowing. Unless, of course, you relax into the NN in Pisces, and see the broad continuing spectrum of experience all as one.

The most telling part of it is when the desired result does come, but somehow it's not what it was cracked up to be. If you had let it happen of its own accord would it feel better?

All NN Pisces questions.

27/8/07 5:06 PM  
Blogger jm said...

This is such a great subject for the full moon in Pisces-NN, so let me add this.

When something goes "wrong", people instinctively wonder what they could have done differently to prevent the outcome. But could they have? And why should they?

This is what Pisces teaches. No judgement. It might not be wrong at all, or it might have happened one way or another, so the attempt to change the course of destiny is futile. Trying to get things to work out right is one big problem. They work out right and wrong, it's only our judgement creating the problems. This is necessary to function, but the wise among us see the oneness of experience and are more willing to let things unfold.

The hardest place for this lesson is Iraq at 29 Pisces now. Is it really wrong? If the outcome eventually leads to a good resolution would you want to undo it? Who's responsible? Who's guilty? Would it have happened anyway? No one has been able to answer these questions and the thing goes on and on of its own accord trying to teach the human race a thing or two. We can't seem to shove this one under the rug. I have no doubt the answers will come in time. Lots of action around the 29 coming up. The highest achievement under Piscean conditions would be to refrain from labeling it right or wrong. At this point, it is, and the way out is here, too, if we pay attention.

27/8/07 5:24 PM  

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