Thursday, December 20, 2007

2012 and Light

Elec-trickkle outlets and the quasi-known future
Last Wednesday, the day Jupiter entered Capricorn with the Moon in Aries, a major energy bill was signed into law. Here is one of the pieces of legislation:
The phaseout, beginning in 2012, of the incandescent light bulb. By 2014 these bulbs will be virtually obsolete.
Can you imagine? Of course it hasn't been sudden but I remember a not-so-short life entirely lit by the incandescent bulb. My curiosity was aroused as usual, so I did some research. According to history, in 1805, an English chemist by the name of Humphry Davy invented the first light bulb. And Jupiter was where? Why Capricorn, of course. Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune were in Taurus. A practical invention to say the least.
In 1854, Henricg Globel, a German watchmaker invented the first true light bulb. Jupiter was in Aries, where Uranus will be in 2012. Then in 1879, Thomas Edison improved on the invention and paved the way for mass usage. Saturn was in Aries. In 2012, Jupiter will be in Taurus along with the continuing transit of Uranus in Aries and Pluto in Capricorn. It does look as though human energy innovation and transformation are scheduled, especially as Uranus in Taurus trines Pluto bringing the new inventions to the world.
I'm heartbroken. I am a creature of the night and I love the incandescent bulb. It's God to me and I will grieve the darkening of it's light and warmth. Life is disappointing. Then again, 2012 holds promise, some say. The new light could even be better, if that's possible.


Anonymous Joe said...

You know, they're pushing these fluorescent bulbs as a means to reduce energy usage. Great, but what about the mercury in them?

I still think global warming is a hoax. it's all about selling us something.

20/12/07 6:13 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Hej Joe!

There certainly seems to be a lot of things not to well thought out.

The world is warming but it seems to be a natural cycle.

it's all about selling us something. a little terror to go with that?

It is so unfortunate for we really could do so much better, live much comfortably with greater health and we already know most of what we need to do.

20/12/07 6:45 PM  
Blogger m.p.k said...

I just had one of these CFL's burn out and it's only a few months old. I paid $18 for this thing because it was supposed to last for years and years and it's more energy efficient. I can only marvel at the timing once again...

20/12/07 9:30 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I'm tellin' you. Just can't win. I'm going to do a Y2K and stock up on incandescents for the rest of my life just before the endtime.

Mpk, it's amazing, isn't it? Timing is such fun.

20/12/07 10:11 PM  
Blogger jm said...

it's all about selling us something.

And who are the suckers who buy it all??
I think I'll just get an oscillating fan if the earth warms. I have one I'm not using in the garage.

we already know most of what we need to do.

What a great thought. The ingenuity always accompanies the latest threat. Might as well just go ahead and enjoy life, with a reasonable dose of terror just to keep the synapses firing.

20/12/07 10:33 PM  
Anonymous Joe said...

Not a bad idea to stock up. I may get some of those Blues Busters full-spectrum light bulbs as they reduce eyestrain when I'm working on Ukrainian eggs.

21/12/07 10:08 AM  
Blogger jm said...

Ha ha ha!! Blues Busters! Great idea for Pluto in capricorn.

You definitely should guard the eyes while egg-building. Save then for your Capricorian old age which is supposed to be a happy one for Caps.

21/12/07 3:37 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Yep Ott lights, the full spectrum lights, are great. I've been using them faily exclusively for years. And my eyes are much better for them. At first i started using them because i could continue to read at night without glasses.

21/12/07 4:43 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Omg. Glasses. Eyesight. Light. Vision. A subject that's been on my mind.

You don't need glasses at all St.B? Can eyesight improve even in old age?

21/12/07 4:47 PM  
Anonymous Joe said...

Can I ask what's behind the St.B nick? :o)

21/12/07 6:17 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Tseka has an alias. Sticky Bun. As blog ettiquette dictates, I shortened the moniker to St.B.

21/12/07 6:32 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Ok here is a story for you JM about my eyes. I have a genetic trait fairly common among a certain group of Swedes. We have almost purple eyes they are very deep blue. Those of us who have this which is most of us on my father's side have "super vision" which means that we can see both near and far like 20/10 and 20/15. (We speculate that this whole genetic picture developed for long distance on snowy tundra basically a scout. The bad part is that as we age our corneas begin to rapidly lose their endothelial cells, what i mean is we who carry these traits lose them faster than the general population. The lens tries to remap the empty spaces by spreading out the cells. Eventually we go blind not in darkness but in white light. We can no longer make out shapes.

Every person in modern times in my father's family has needed corneal transplants to see.

First we lose the ability to find the black point. A few years ago began to notice problems reading and it was not magnification but blur. In my case this was about 20 years early.

In the way that is so typical of doing art shows i was talking with a woman who told me about a research program at a famous eye institute in the city where i was showing. The program uses "skins" thin films made of mostly water and a little polymer to help support the shape of the lens to correct vision. They were only accepting people with super vision over 50. The idea is that somehow we who have super vision have learned how to control the shape of the lens. The program is hoping to discover how to use manmade lenses to correct problems by tracking us. They were seeking artists especially, since a huge percentage of vision is imagination- that is the brain decodes information.

I called and they put me in the program that very week. The genetic trait i have is very rare in the general population but as luck would have it a specialist from floor 2 could be called up.

I have now been with this program for several years and my vision has improved by .50 diopter in one eye and is 20/20 in the other. The lenses are helping the eye to remember the shape and retain it even if the "skins" are not on.

So far only a very few of us have been successful but who knows? I personally am very, very thrilled. Can you imaging retaining good vision or even reversal?

A couple of years later i sold a painting to an Opthamologist whose clinic is researching cloning for my genetic condition....i'm all set!

And now you know the number one reason why i do outdoor art shows. The contacts.

21/12/07 6:36 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

ja Joe sticky bun. My mother saw a post on my site from jm and wondered about Saint B? Saint and her daughter apparently did not compute either..hahahaha.

21/12/07 6:42 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Also i have a good report - i did not have to spend my birthday in the hospital or some similar place with a friend or family member in an emergency. It has been about 15 years....just about since Pluto came into Sag now isn't that interesting?

Additional report on the multiple transits of my sun- life seems pretty usual perhaps a bit more relaxed and pleasant. I have sold 4 painting off my site. Many thanks to you jm for putting a link here.

I am pleased and wondering, what's next. It feels a lot like an adventure after being confined.

21/12/07 6:47 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Omg. Tseka. This is more fascinating to me than you know. Omg, Omg.

The lenses are helping the eye to remember the shape and retain it even if the "skins" are not on.

Can contacts do this in general?

Every person in modern times in my father's family has needed corneal transplants to see.

There is so much here I don't know where to begin, talk about breaking patterns.

I sometimes think the super vision is part of REALLY seeing to the sacrifice of normal mundane vision. Not to the point of blindness, though. What a story.

They were seeking artists especially, since a huge percentage of vision is imagination- that is the brain decodes information.

I believe this. And what about artists? This is connected to the post I wrote on seeing. There are so many places to focus. I think we get confused, part of why eyesight fails.

There is an incredible amount to be learned from your experience. People don't see well.

21/12/07 6:53 PM  
Anonymous Joe said...

OMG, I forgot. Tseka, happy birthday! :o)

21/12/07 6:55 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Yes. Fascinating. the hospitals.

I have sold 4 painting off my site

Omg. I knew you were going to blossom.

I am pleased and wondering, what's next. It feels a lot like an adventure after being confined.

Isn't it amazing? You would think Sagittarius would be lack of confinement, but here we are coming into Capricorn, and freedom is coming. It could be the NN in Aquarius. And of couse, Uranus in your first, just off the nodes.

Pluto transits are like that. Paralyzing sometimes. We have to go all the way down and outward life stands still for those who are brave and willing. Then comes the reward.

21/12/07 6:58 PM  
Anonymous Joe said...

Is that what i can expected from Pluto transiting my 8th? Freedom?

21/12/07 6:59 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I am part pleased, part not pleased, and also wondering. As it stands now I have to return to work full time. Finances dictate. Saturn just turned retro on my 6th cusp. It will be back in August for the full 2 and 1/2 years, so here I go.

So I also have an adventure ahead of me. I felt unprepared but even with Jupiter in Cap I feel the ability coming.

21/12/07 7:03 PM  
Blogger jm said...

You can expect a lot of things, joe, with Pluto in the 8th. Letting go is usually a part of it, which might seem like loss, and it can be painful. But the purpose of the release is ultimate freedom. The process shouldn't be shortchanged in order to get that freedom. Ask St. B.

21/12/07 7:06 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The first thing I lost when Pluto came in was the beautiful maple tree outside my bedroom that protected and comforted me. It was a slow death and I was sad, but I had my usual happy moments all along too. Many events followed and I realized even during the process the good it was doing me. Now I no longer need the protection and I have new trees that I don't depend on so much.

The freedom has come slowly but now I think I can accomplish much more after that transit, much longer than yours will be.

21/12/07 7:11 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Truthfully it feel like old times. I have always been very Sagittarian, the love of adventure, a little risk, willing to contemplate novel approaches...the Uranus is really the ruler no doubt about it.

You are right about vision vs sight.

We could probably stay with this one topic for days. Five years ago we all thought i would be mostly blind by now heheh, another big factor is how homeopathy has been beneficial to slowing the process and these Doctors are open-minded and very, very talented.

Other contact lenses no. This mostly water skin is super thin - thinner than plastic wrap. A devil to learn to get on and off. A lot of it has to do with water in the eye and how the lens tries to focus by filling with fluid to compensate. It seems simple but there is a lot to it. And it sets a lot of our previous thoughts on ocular function on its head. If we were honest most of what we all learned in Med school shoulc be tossed. We have come forward leaps and bound and the course work has not followed most places.

We tie ourselves up in legacy.

21/12/07 7:15 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

And Thank you Joe for the b'day wishes. much appreciated.
And happy solstice too.

21/12/07 7:16 PM  
Blogger jm said...

It's natural to be afraid of the future, Pluto or no. It would be the same even if you didn't know about the 8th house. The knowledge helps understand things while they unfold. Same with everyone and Pluto in Capricorn. We can't have an idyllic trouble free life. Most are pretty damn hard. The difference is, feeling strength and confidence as we go, free from feelings of victimization.

They say that positive people see bad situations as temporary, the others see it more globally and not fixable. They would say, "That's the way I am, and the way things are.", whereas the optimist would see it as a moment of circumstance, entirely malleable and not their faults.

21/12/07 7:17 PM  
Blogger jm said...

We have come forward leaps and bound and the course work has not followed most places.

It will be soon, I'm sure, as technological advances leap in these next years. It seems that the priciple of skins could be applied to others. I'm wary of lasik surgery, and maybe some alternatives will be developed. It could be incredibly profitable to develop this with such a universal problem.

I do believe that the human vision problem will eventually lead to super vision. That's why it's there.

21/12/07 7:21 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Pluto in the 8th in my case was getting acquainted with death. Many i loved died during those years. I also had 8 miscarriages and a final live birth of my son wherein we both nearly died ourselves.

Perseverance, acceptance, and allowing death to be part of life was a bit part of the pluto 8th. Not so strangely what grew alongside was reverence. Not depression. I began to remember deeply. Know that i am part of the whole and that the whole is part of me.

Trust and surrender would be two words that seem appropriate descriptors.

21/12/07 7:24 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Capricorn rules the medical profession and with all the Uranian energy I think there will be huge leaps in medical knowledge, alternatives included. Integrative medicine is the next wave. It's so so important to humankind and the idea of being healthy really is a new one.

21/12/07 7:25 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Have you found the job?
Know where you want to be working?

This question is in the back of my mind too. Will i need to change this next year to survive. Living alone has been pure pleasure. Building this house. Who knows. I suspect we are all going to be going through changes in the next two years. It has to happen and we have always walked point.

21/12/07 7:26 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Man, St.B, you just told it like it was. I agree that familiarity with death is part of the lesson, but it doesn't have to be literal. It's release that is asked for. Elimination of excess baggage. Therein lies the freedom. Surrender is a magnificent sensation which is what I think we get at our own deaths.

The important thing to realize is that when deeper transits come, we are always ready. I'm almost through with the years and years of Pluto I just experienced, and I will say this. I feel lighter.

21/12/07 7:30 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Ja lighter, and i still have some time with pluto on my sun. Pluto square moon, was very tiring.

21/12/07 7:34 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Omg, St.B. Am I ready to talk? I am feeling a little trepidation.

I have found a job. The negotiations will be mid-January. It's far from ideal and this is where I have to come to terms with the whole thing. I have to make some money and I can't diddle about the carpet color I don't like, or the obnoxious bartender, and all the picky faults I usually focus on. I have to get real. Very hard for this dreamer.

The one thing that came up in the conversation so far was the word, "fun". This could be the direction. My danceable, joyous stuff in the forefront, leaving my angst and soul searching at home. I can do that with you when I'm off!

21/12/07 7:35 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Pluto conj. Moon was rather devastating for me. The sq. to Mars is the biggy, but I will say this. Capricorn is coming in like gangbusters and I'm feeling ready fast. I think soon I will actually want to get out there. I find myself abandoning all the projects in the house, which is a great relief. There might not even be much of one when Pluto in the 10th opposes my 4th Sun. Sheesh, me and the world. An intersting love affair with Saturn in Leo in the 5th.

21/12/07 7:39 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I usually don't discuss my actual plans while they're materializing but I've decided to can the superstition. Too broke. No more hocus pocus.

21/12/07 7:41 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Know where you want to be working?

I think so. After the first one gets me back in the swing. But this is where it's getting interersting. Due to the Capricorn, my ideas are changing. I feel something drawing me into the establishmenst rather than the anti-establishment like I've always done. I'm beginning to think the impoverished wealthy are truly in need. They keep building these massive structures with no life in them. One day they'll need some.

A few years ago I did a series of parties for some millionaires, and much to my surprise, it was creatively enlivening and the money was more than I asked for.

So it all remains to be seen. I must understand that it's business out there and my creative longing will never be satisfied anyway. I'll do my best to blend the urges.

21/12/07 7:48 PM  
Blogger jm said...

For me, this is what the Uranus-Capricorn years are about. The system and the revolutionaries coming together and working out an agreement. No one really wants the system destroyed. Everyone is dependent on it. And the system is filled with dead weight that it wants to be relieved of.

My Pluto transits stripped me down to survival level, especially the sq. to Mars, so I don't have the leisure time to theorize about an ideal world that I can dance into heaven within. It's a vast complex machine that I will find my place in, so my Uranian character can serve the whole machine well. And it can help me.

As much as I lament the tragedies of human existence, I have to make a living now. The system I have is the one I will enter, without trying excessively to change it. It will change on its own.

21/12/07 8:02 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

Yep reality. And it does help to speak of these things i think. I've aways said i would rather prostitute myself to me than another. When my son was little i did a million flower paintings. The universal - who does not like flowers? Big lush watercolours a bit abstracted. I probably could have made a fortune but my heart was never in it. Got me through though.

What ever you do will be done uniquely, only way. It could never be any other way. Sometimes i think that my selling flower paintings was part of the education process that helped people to see so that they could eventually buy other work.

21/12/07 8:06 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

I'm beginning to think the impoverished wealthy are truly in need. They keep building these massive structures with no life in them. One day they'll need some.

Oh sister. Don't i agree.

A few years ago I did a series of parties for some millionaires, and much to my surprise, it was creatively enlivening and the money was more than I asked for.

I like this idea.

A fried here and i have been kicking around some ideas based on Fair Trade for impoverished countries. we need to think creatively and collectively.

I like the party idea. Sorta in home jm.

21/12/07 8:10 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I think it does help to speak. It clarifies and solidifies.

True. It will be unique. That's what they always loved about it, but the times weren't right. The Sag years were about big, bold, and excessive, and really not too innovative. The Uranian-Cap years are going to be entirely different. It will take a minute, but the uniqueness will be a selling point. Saturn-Uranus. In fact, the opposotion is coming just as I go back to work with Saturn in my 6th. Uranus 12th.
Same with you. All Virgo-Pisces. Saturn and Uranus. It's already happening judging from your latest sales.

Yes, it's helpful to talk.

21/12/07 8:12 PM  
Blogger jm said...

My god, tseka, can you feel the change? A little while ago we were musing and dreaming and now we are actually making concrete plans. I'm very very glad we connected. This has been a unique experience. Your sales skill has helped me.

The details of the venues are beginning to matter less to me. I used to use them as an excuse to go back home.

The need for grace and beauty will never diminish, and one thing about the millionaires. They rejected all others for me, because they wanted something exquisite and of the highest taste. They got it. They told me that I was the reason the party was such a success. Me. the little guy.

There'll be more of this.

21/12/07 8:17 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The wealthy are searching searching searching for someplace to put their money. My gallery owner friends are working with the city. They just need to be directed. So I'm approaching the situation from a position of bargaining power. They have the money, I have what they are looking for. Mutual decisions. No judgements. My product is good.

21/12/07 8:21 PM  
Blogger jm said...

One fascinating fact about human history.

The commoners have always aspired to the wealth and power of the elite. But the elite have longed with everything in them to be free to sing and dance like the commoners. So the common folk have less need for music and joy at this juncture. They've been doing it all along. They probably should get a little serious and get to work.

The stiff and starched rich have felt out of the loop of real blood-pulsing life sensation as a collective. String quartets and Minuets vs abandoned animalistic self expression.

They need it. And to let go of the money.

21/12/07 8:26 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

The internet sales are not much in terms of money.(yet) The whole exercise for me was to break out connect differently, expand the writing which i did not want to do but my buyers have been asking for. I think that the namnsdags may become a calendar - i mean what is more natural? And the images that i am doing are very very spontaneous and meant to fit the namnsdag. Years of practice painting is finding a simple outlet that i am finding very pleasurable I am thinking now about the images as prints...365 is not impossible, not airy fairy but images of earth that connect us as the original myths intended. Tho i do love fairy stories and the illustrations. I have over the years been stunned by how similar a person matches the named day energy. It's a big project. Once done it self generates. As would a CD or recording would for you.

You see my life is only work and i have been thinking that travel and work go very well together...working on just that.

21/12/07 8:52 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I think the calendar is a great great idea. It's inspring for me since commercial value doesn't really mean lessening of the artistic. All those guys I love who produced during the wars did many kinds of commercial ventures too. They were well versed in the commerce of art. Maybe modern times have bled the artistic merit but it will come back. It has to.

I read today:
The television industry is facing its worst labor crisis in two decades, a crippling writers' strike that's reshaping the business of TV and threatening to permanently shift the viewing habits of millions of Americans.

Speaking of shifts. The writers. the creative ones. Hmmmm....

21/12/07 9:04 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Saturn-Uranus here we come.

The Writers Guild of America walkout has forced producers to reconsider how shows are developed, the type of shows produced and how they're sold to advertisers.

It may drive viewers toward alternative entertainment -- including Internet entertainment, which is at the heart of the dispute.

Quite a shake-up.

21/12/07 9:08 PM  
Blogger jm said...

This is something.

The strike is forcing us to look at the way we do business. Networks contend that the strike has given a new urgency to the need to confront ballooning costs and an evolving marketplace.


Humph. Money can't buy everything. Media consolidation back-firing. No people buying. No business. People power.

Markets are totally co-dependent. Manufacturers and buyers. the idea of taking money out of the commoners pockets is absurd and they know it.

It's going to get interesting, speaking of vision.

21/12/07 9:14 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Years of practice painting is finding a simple outlet that i am finding very pleasurable

That's the clue.

21/12/07 9:22 PM  
Blogger m.p.k said...

I haven't read the entire thread yet but I wanted to suggest something. JM, please put a paypal button on your blog or some other place we can send some money! Please! I'm often frustrated that I can't give to artists simply because there is no way without buying a specific product. It's my great pleasure to give money, even if it's relatively small amounts. That is why I am trying to be rigorous with my channeling of energy in the form of money.

I was wrong about the CFL after all. I was using it in a non-supported fixture. Even despite that, the company is sending me a replacement. I feel somewhat humbled. All my CFL are full spectrum, they had to be special ordered so I could get the beautiful CRI (the color rendering index is how the light quality is measured) but they save energy and give beautiful light...

22/12/07 10:28 AM  
Blogger jm said...

Mpk, I cannot believe this. I am so touched I hardly know what to say. The story of my life. Me and money. Afraid to ask for it. Afraid to translate what I possess. Artists have always relied on this kind of support. You are unbelievable.

It's my great pleasure to give money, even if it's relatively small amounts.

This is what it's all about. How did you get so advanced? When the world learns this simple truth, we'll be there. Releasing money is about pleasure as much as grasping it.

I'm often frustrated that I can't give to artists simply because there is no way without buying a specific product.

This is wonderful, and once again, I'm astounded by your insight. I don't record so I can't sell my work on the Net. I'm strictly live. Yet I need to be supported by the populace and it has to be cash now. Without going fully into the phenomenal sequence of events that has led to this ... you are in the know. I'll look into Paypal. It also verifies the fact that I should continue Raging Universe. There's no product to sell in the traditional way. Maybe others will get the tangible nature of the entity and contribute. That would be glorious. There is little more joyous than seeing someone open up and give spontaneously.

That is why I am trying to be rigorous with my channeling of energy in the form of money.

This is what I have to do. You are wiser than I can say. I wish they'd all learn from you.

Great news about the light.

Thank you mpk. Thank you so very very much. You are a jewel.

22/12/07 2:47 PM  
Blogger m.p.k. said...

Thank you jm, I love Raging Universe so much!

There's a funny example of the paypal button idea on the bottom left of this page. This guy makes climbing gear. I've heard that people hit his paypal button all the time:

I can't count how many times I've been to see small artists shows and the only option is to pay $10 to enter the show and buy a $12 cd. Hard to make a go of it on those margins. Sometimes I see a show and I'm like: I would have paid $100 to see that and I wish the artist had a paypal button or the like. These charges should be the minimum the artist is willing to part with. They should be making it easier for people to give more. I don't know how many people would utilize the opportunity but I know I would.

Another example recently there was an amazing sculpture exhibit near my work. I have no idea if the particular artist is in need of cash but there was no obvious way to contribute unless I was going to buy some gargantuan piece of sculpture. I have no place for something like that, but I would have contributed toward his exhibition if there was a chance.

22/12/07 6:52 PM  
Blogger jm said...

This is crucial, mpk, and I am still stunned by your extra sensory sensitivity and your overall wisdom. I am in crisis and the turning point is here. I can't wait now, I have to open myself to receive money. It's even more urgent than getting a job, since everything I do is my art and I have to make the whole thing translate into tangibles. Now is the time, so I'm going ahead immediately with the Paypal button. I realize that the knowledge I'm giving the world through Raging Universe is worth a copper coin. You've shown me the light. I never would have thought of this myself.

It's between me and the universe. The fair exchange. If I mean business, business will come. And I'd better mean it.

Thank you again. Your story about the sculptor is great. So right. Exchange can take many forms.

You are the Paypal of all time.

22/12/07 7:54 PM  
Blogger jm said...

LOL!! What a great use of Paypal on that site. Thanks again, mpk.

22/12/07 8:00 PM  
Anonymous Joe said...

I've often wished for some way to give back to you, jm. You've been such a treasure trove of info. :o)

So I for one support this idea. Likewise, with Tseka's art, I can't afford to buy one of her paintings but I sure wouldn't mind contribting a few bucks just for the privilege of seeing what she can do. :o)

23/12/07 8:13 AM  
Blogger jm said...

Joe, thank you. Very encouraging. This is serious and important work I'm doing and if I can get a little financial backing I can continue to put energy into it. I would like this. I can see there is a huge appetite for my kind of astrology, maybe a result of Pluto in Sagittarius.

23/12/07 2:06 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

To use some of Myrtle Rae's enthusiastic language,(HERE) (HERE) & (HERE) Tingle-ating....You will never guess what i came here to suggest... I thought about sending you email privately (but need your permission as i came by your email through your registering to tseka) to tell you how this can be accomplished very easily. i just learned about it myself- the paypal button and knew you would go back and read a new post to an old thread. God don't you just love it. The guys are ahead of me. I emailed pat paquette with the same info. I have the button now but will wait as we are moving server and i am wanting everything to go smooth.

Honest jm it is just what we all need to do to create the circle of hel we have so often spoken of...allow the "other" a place to participate.

+but i confess it was not my idea someone else had to convince me of it!

I am so, so glad m.p.k. brought this up and seconded by Joe there you go two wise ones with the right ideas.

24/12/07 4:00 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

ahaha and i see the donate button has found its place.

but i still am asking permission to email you as i have a donation of a different kind i would like to send you.

24/12/07 4:32 PM  
Blogger jm said...

St.B!! Yes the button. I still don't know just exactly how much begging to do!

Of course. Email. But please make me control myself. I purposely don't email because of my weakness in that area but now that Cap is here, maybe I can find the dicscipline.

Wasn't the full moon incredible? Something is up.

24/12/07 4:41 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

I'm sure we will do fine.

BTW it seems that while i have some reluctance about asking for money for myself i have no problem being a shill for others. (control me jm)

This is NOT begging jm- ahem- it is being paid for services. (says my son to me) Oh and you might want to check that on your account so folks don't need to give up their physical address. Service therefore no package to there would be with goods.
Visualizing lotsa $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ flowing your way.

24/12/07 5:34 PM  
Blogger jm said...

BTW it seems that while i have some reluctance about asking for money for myself i have no problem being a shill for others. (control me jm)

Control????Are you kidding?? I am the same way. I would have been a great used car salesman. I just can't sell myself. I mean. I used to could not. I simply can't afford to be myself anymore.

24/12/07 5:39 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Herein lies the problem. Asking for donations is all well and good but as far as being paid for services, that is supposed to be agreed upon from the onset. So I have a hard time asking for money for something when it wasn't stipulated that it was a contract. Then again, I can't go on charity right now. So a reworking of philosophy (my Venus opp Jupiter) should be applied.

Mpk, on the other hand has a Moon-Jupiter conjunction in the 2nd in Aquarius. Money is fine by him, alternative means accepted.

I will learn. I VILL learn.

24/12/07 5:45 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

ja bebe.
We'll do it together, dragging heels probably.

One aspect of the internet is it's content is free. The part that has to change is the idea that intellectual property has no value.

I had my doc dissertation taken by a couple of people who made it into a workshop. Lock stock and barrel with not a mention anywhere of me. They used my transparencies -everything. This did not happen in this country.

It made me sad that others would take then sadder when i mentioned it and people said well why wasn't i out selling it then? sigh.
a misfit that's me in the world of commerce.

24/12/07 5:57 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The part that has to change is the idea that intellectual property has no value.

Right. The value of the intangible. This country has to learn that with the SN2 and NN8. We can start the ball rolling.

I'm not even as far as a misfit. I've been completely squeezed out. But mususcians have never been paid.

I can't even begin to tell you how my financial insanity has let everything slip away. I have to learn to grasp with my Taurus node, and now I have no choice. Pluto-Mars and survival.

24/12/07 6:24 PM  
Blogger Tseka said...

May luck shine upon you.

Actually you have already earned it.

24/12/07 6:57 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Thank you, Generous 1.

What a wonderful wonderful thought That I've already earned it. This is going on top of the mantra list.

24/12/07 7:25 PM  

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