Fashion Statement....Chapter 3
As the many planets traverse fashion conscious Libra and the Moon approaches fullness in athletic Aries, I thought I'd share with you these marvelous specimens of manhood from 1926, to see how the fashions and concept of the perfect man compare and contrast to the modern day ideal. They look a lot like the fellows I see today, although a tiny bit heftier, and I can't say that I've seen anything like the outfit on the far right in my gym experience.
Today, I've noticed that the upper body is a bit larger compared to the girth of the legs, bringing to mind a primate model very similar to the Great Ape.
There really is no accounting for popular taste in any given era.
Today, I've noticed that the upper body is a bit larger compared to the girth of the legs, bringing to mind a primate model very similar to the Great Ape.
There really is no accounting for popular taste in any given era.
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They look pretty good! One of the main differences today is the proportion of vastly overweight people. I still can't get used to the young women walking around with their bellies hanging over the top of their pants. Living in a University town there are lots of young people wandering around in the latest fashions . . . and, IMO, NO sense of style!!
The weight thing is awful. Americans have never been known for their good taste! Just their enthusiasm.
It's absolutely amazing that our pop culture is imitated around the world to the extent it is.
I started shopping for my own clothes at about 10. My mother left me alone in the department stores and I knew exactly what I wanted.
She had a great sense of style, but it was all her own, and outlandish. She could wear plastic jewelry and make it look good!
I wonder where we get our sense of personal style.
Interesting to note. Monday night.
I haven't been paying any attention to fashion lately, but Mon. I went to check out a new blues club. All I did was put on a nice pair of black denim stretch pants and a black denim jeans jacket, and lo and behold...attention was more positive than usual.
Don't know if it came from my attitude or the selection of garments.
Interestingly, Dr. Weston A. Price studied this very topic. His belief (and later findings) was that poor nutrition on the part of parents produces children with "injuries" to the structure of the body, particularly the skull and facial bones. He traveled the world during the time when the camera was very new and there were still a lot of "primitive" people around the world who still ate what their ancestors ate for generations. He photographed what he found in African peoples, Australia (the Aboriginals), the Gaels in Ireland and in the Scottish Hebrides, North America (Inuit and Native Am.), et al.
He found that significant changes occurred when these isolated people were exposed to commercial foods like refined white sugar or flour ("the white man's food"), and other artificial or canned products. The facial bones of their subsequent offspring were pinched, the nostrils were greatly narrowed, and the jaws were not wide enough to hold all the teeth without overcrowding.
The guys in this picture were probably raised on whole milk, butter, eggs, animal fats, some flour and sugar, and so on. You can see in children these days that they are often "pinch-faced." In fact, i was going to comment in the earlier post about music but couldn't figure out where it should go.
There's some evidence that modern singers can't easily fill a concert hall without artificial amplification because the inner nasal and oral cavities are so pinched nowadays that singers rarely have booming, sonorous voices.
It's an endlessly fascinating topic for me. You know me... I like to find out why things are the way they are. :o)
Oh My God, Joe. My god in heaven.
There's some evidence that modern singers can't easily fill a concert hall without artificial amplification because the inner nasal and oral cavities are so pinched nowadays that singers rarely have booming, sonorous voices.
You must know what this means to me. Thank you very very much.
OMG.
Same with actors. This is something. The whole facial cavity vibrates to create the singing voice. I was trained by a wonderful teacher who spent as long as it took to get the nasal passages humming. In fact I hummed for weeks to get it right. And I was raised on good food.
This explains it. The lack of depth and resonance that has dogged me, way moreso than last century.
What next, I wonder. Is it permanent change?
I'm glad I waited to tell you this now because it would have been lost in the shuffle of the other posting.
Here's the letter from the operatic instructor who laments the change in voices.
OPERATIC VOICES
I have just received my copy of Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Dr. Weston A. Price. I went through all the photos, the general outlay of the book, and chills went up my spine at several intervals. All I can say is if modern civilization keeps up with this unnatural and un-God-like way of eating,
it is doomed. The human race faces a crisis of disastrous proportions.
Yet--theoretically, mind you--you wonder whether there’s a conspiracy. If we all ate right, then dentists, doctors
and insurance companies would go broke. There wouldn’t be enough people to keep them all "gainfully employed."
I won’t be able to think of food and its effects on people the same way ever again. I will never be able to see the faces of people without studying them closely, because I see "disturbances" of nature so rampant these days, it has become almost commonplace.
I am an opera critic and vocal consultant. One of the things I’ve become aware of in the last 40 years is how voices have changed. Specifically, how small and insignificant operatic voices have become. One of the hallmarks of an opera singer is to be able to project the tone without a microphone. Recordings exist since before 1900 and there are numerous documents left behind. It has been a perplexing mystery to some, why the singers of the last 40 years have sounded so underpowered, with miniscule, unimportant voices. One theory offered by a man versed in physiology in his book is that the largest voices of the past seemed to belong to robust (not fat) bodies. And, most importantly, big heads, big teeth, big jaws, noses and nasal cavities. It was said of Caruso that one could have shot an apple into his mouth while he was singing.
I have a pictorial history of singers dating back a hundred years and just about all of them have superb embouchures, sturdy bodies and wide faces--the bigger and wider a face, the denser, fuller the resonating cavities. Think of a violin versus a cello or a bass. These singers often came from rustic, traditional small towns of Europe and farming communities. The majority of singers who are active these days have small voices, small heads, small jaws and are really kind of nondescript. Very few have the kind of fantastic physical structures of the old singers. If Dr. Price’s findings can be applied here, then it would provide a compelling reason for why singers just don’t have the same kind of inborn physiology as their predecessors.
Niel Rishoi
Ann Arbor, Michigan
And here's a link to an article on the cranial and facial development, and how it can be harmed by poor nutrition and improperly prepared food.
Let's go see!
I'm astounded joe. I was right. The agony I went through at the other site to find you was worth it!
it has been a perplexing mystery to some, why the singers of the last 40 years have sounded so underpowered, with miniscule, unimportant voices
That's exactly where I place it timewise. This is phenomenal. You held out for exactly the right time.:-)
OMG!!
OMG.
Since a normal adult cranium weights between 12 to 18 pounds, the musculo-skeletal strain in the neck or cervical region to support a forward head posture can cause a cascade of events leading right down to the feet. The forward head posture in most individuals creates improper spinal alignment and lack of proper curvature to the spine at critical areas.
I've been studying this exact thing for ages.
Therefore, an individual with a narrow or improperly formed maxilla will have extremely narrow nasal passages, which limit flow of air and breathing capabilities, and will thus experience difficulty in having proper sinus health and drainage.
And sinus trouble is associated with relationships metaphysically.
This all effects sensory perception. It makes sense.
Another area of interest is the soft tissues and skin. Sagging and wrinkles are minimal or non-existent in people with good physical development as they age. Their faces don’t sink back into their craniums. Wrinkles happen when the scaffolding—the bony structure—becomes diminished in comparison to the muscles and skin.
OMG.
I thought maybe this was all due to intermediary evolution and our spines not being adjusted yet to the bipedal position. At least there's hope mixed with a return of proper nutrition. maybe.
That's where that characteristic forward head posture comes from. This chin-lift, head-tilt-forward posture helps open up the airways
I must tell you the most amazing thing that happened a few days ago. I was singing and distressed. The low notes weren't right. Never have been up to my standards.
I suddenly lifted my jaw, and there it was the perfect note. So simple. Only took 40 years to figure out. I wish you'd told me sooner.:-)
But self discovery works best!
People when depressed probably lower their heads exacerbating the problem.
Wow. WOw. Wow.
This is why kids who are mouth breathers have a strong gag reflex
This is what I hear in all the singers. The gag.
And I studied George Bush and how malformed he is. His teeth are so small and his face is all off. I think his arms are wrong and his head leans forward. He is so far off I am amazed. I often thought he might be a release point for some primitive malfunction in the country.
Thanks for this joe.
It's an endlessly fascinating topic for me. You know me... I like to find out why things are the way they are. :o)
Me too!! Joe, you never cease to amaze . . . between my NN in Gemini and your ASC + our Scorpio, the hunger for good information and need to share it is paramount!!! Way to go!!!
Good stuff Joe!
I'm a huge advocate of good nutrition and probiotics but...
i've also spent too much time studying coevolution and adaptive and compensatory function of humans and disease to agree fully with Dr Silkman.
Nutrition is a big BIG part but not all of the story. Small malformed mouths, crowded teeth are associated with changes due to Tuberculosis in Northen European cultures.
We are the living record of our ancestor's journey.
Different parts of the planet have been affected with different altering diseases. Each has a "lesson" TB also known as consumption is associated with visual arts, strong emotional works.
Perhaps hmanity gets lessons from the cosmos for each of our chakras and their corresponding attributes. The whole of us harmonizes the tones? One aspect of our physiology changes to allow new wisdom to enter?
The models that Dr Silkman presented in the article as of "excellent facial development" would be among the psoric diathesis.
but what do i know...interesting to speculate on.
I've also seen pictures illustrating the results of babies sleeping on their sides & stomachs and placing their head on their hand. Same thing some native peoples like the Flathead Indians did - place consistent pressure against the growing bones producing deformities. There are a number of theories out there about the size of the jaw & the teeth . . . we see lots of examples of too small a jaw structure for large teeth.
There is lots & lots here for interesting discussions!
I also agree that it's not that simplistic. Structural changes have a lot to do with other environmental factors and adaptations we don't understand yet.
But the importance of breath I think is accurate. And the overall restriction of body processes.
My underlying view still goes to evolution in progress and things like the Industrial Revolution that changed life so much we still don't know where we are.
Th whole relationship with face, breath, and ingesting food is significant. I don't know if it's exactly the content as much as the form and our attitude toward life. There is a rampant belief here that food is dangerous. This is a large part of the problem.
There are a number of theories out there about the size of the jaw & the teeth . . . we see lots of examples of too small a jaw structure for large teeth.
I think this is changing. I believe we are still too top heavy for the complete bipedal postion, so I think our heads are getting smaller.
Tseka, I think there's more to the "excellent facial development" examples than the two he gives. I would like to see more than just two, although Dr. Price's photos in Nutrition and Physical Degeneration are remarkable all by themselves.
What does psoric diathesis mean?
We're still pitching forward trying to get back to the ground. So the balance isn't there in structure yet.
jm and Neith, you make me blush! :o)
I'm glad that the little bits of gold and silver I've collected in my travels and Scorpionic snoopings have finally arrived to a place where they'll be useful. :o)
And sinus trouble is associated with relationships metaphysically.
Can you elaborate please, jm, considering the sinus troubles I've had lately? I never did take the Neti pot advice that Casey offered awhile back...
I'm glad that the little bits of gold and silver I've collected in my travels and Scorpionic snoopings have finally arrived to a place where they'll be useful. :o)
This is good although the bad part is how underappreciated the gold and silver are generally. But let us see your riches while we can!
Sinus problems have been related to backed up tears(drainage), possibly sorrows around relationships, although which ones, it might not be easy to ascertain. And the root of the sadness.
My personal experience is that when I sacrifice too much, I get a stabbing pain in my eye so severe I have to pace and try to maintain control for about an hour until it stops. Extremely painful and a lot of tears. This is sinuses.
Most head problems are issues of self vs pleasing others.
So. You, joe, have a Mars in Libra. So do I.
Mars is entirely out for the self, and Libra for the other as much as the self. So a Mars in Libra pushes others away, often subconsciously, to establish separate identity. The secret here is to maintain the integrity of the self while in relationship, which is not easy at all. Mars arouses conflict, often subtle. he recoils and demands attention to the self as soon as a relationship dynamic starts. So often the conflict goes inward for the sake of harmony, and symptoms can manifest.
I think a lot of it is just putting up with some of these symptoms if they're manageable. Mars is tough in Libra. We seek what we resent. Ends up to be too much relating for the Mars. We're both getting the Mars in Libra now.
And enter the Full Moon in Aries Friday!
Added to this is your Capricorn which I've been meaning to tell you about. I will in a bit and you can see the pattern and some of the sinus trouble.
Power again.
Sure Joe,
Psora is a miasm or diathesis which comes from scabies. It is the oldest of our archetypal disease / hereditary pictures.
We as humans carry the residue of certain primary illness. They are not completely resolved in our genetic evolution. The very oldest of diseases have been fully encorporated and no longer cause illness.
Homeopathy terms this residual disease influence asMiasm (the fog), or disease foundation of the Contitutional Archetype. Psora is the oldest still active. You recognize it in the word psoriasis. And primarialy that is how we see it, as skin disorders. But it also manifests as other particular types of physical (primarily circulatory) and mental illness.
(psoric miasm and associated diseases prevail in Africa, and among aboriginal groups while other miasms prevail in other geographical locations and among other cultural groups)
Other primary diathesis or maismic archetypes are Tuberucular, Syphlitic, Medorrhinum from Gonorrhoea) and Carcinosinum (cancer). Each has a clinical picture which includes physical appearance, psychology, physiology and symptomology as well as modalities.
Each of the above maisms has a head shape oval, square triangular,etc. and a definite body shape as well. We are just little walking artifacts...
There's too much to say and i can really blab about this passion.
That's pretty neat. We're symbiotic creatures. Mitochondria, which provide cellular energy, in the cells of our bodies are an example of co-evolution. Mitochondria have their own genetic code, separate from primary DNA. Mitochondria are descended from bacteria.
Also, many mammals such as sheep need retroviruses for reproduction.
Indeed Kadimiros, we'd all be dead if not for bacteria, commmensals etc.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Along these lines i've spent time thinking about Cancer...it's lesson in humans as a part of our evolution or coevolution.
carcinosinum as a sarcode, that is a remedy made from the necrotic tissue, is one of the most amazing medicines. I have been astounded by its action, the dreams especially. And perhaps what the proving of the medicine teaches us most of all is that even though it works on all "types" of people how it works is directed by the underlying constitution. A "spiritual" person gets a matching reaction. A practical earthy psoric type would find the remedy matching that. This is somewhat backward from how the medicines usually work. But cancer sets up house with it's own generic blueprint and starts replicating itself, and we let it...until it begins to overwhelm us then we react.
Wonder where we are headed with it.
"lo and behold...attention was more positive than usual.
Don't know if it came from my attitude or the selection of garments."
Back to the question at hand...fashion and what attracts.
I'm no fasion maven jm, but in your case i bet it was the whole package, plus if the sound was good it probably registered in every cell of you.
pleasure is like a magnet.
Cancer...it's lesson in humans as a part of our evolution or coevolution.
This interests me as cancer is all about growth and immortality, so I understand. A different kind of pathology. We are now trying to attack the cells but I think cancer will teach us some other approach and thus the evolutionary aspect.
Ha ha ha! Posting together tseka. Good to have the mental stimulation.
pleasure is like a magnet.
This is music to my ears and a complete truth. No fuss, no frills, no abstracts, right to the core.
I am working on this now with my Venus(pleasure) just about to end the Pluto(pain) transit.
And now I feel like getting into a beautiful skin of clothes again. It's the whole thing. The outer and inner are crossing paths in a perfect continuum. More outer to come in my life.
I think diseases are like substances that have receptors in the body. The peculiar characteristics find the place in the system ultimately to balance or neutralize, maybe. To guide and to facilitate evolution.
The whole subject of pathogens fascinates me.
I would think they are there to stimulate health in the end.
Wonder where we are headed with it.
Cancer, that is. It really is interesting. It beats us at our own game. The cells are mighty and immortal, almost like gods, and the extremes we go to to combat them do not work well. So we further destroy our bodies in treatment.
I wonder if there is a clue in cancer. Something to mimic in a sense as we learn new ways of survival.
The whole subject of pathogens fascinates me.
I would think they are there to stimulate health in the end.
Or assimilation with the whole planet. When you consider that only 3% (or less)of DNA is encoding DNA and the rest is "junk" or ghosts of our cosmic journey it certainly casts we humans into a different light. Knowing that most of that "junk" is found everywhere else in everthing else and only a wee bit says I AM me sure makes me wonder. Most of what we are is bacteria and "other" stuff. Cancer probably exists all the time and raises its head when the times are right. And now it the time is more right than in the past. Becasue it matches itself to the nature of the individual (this is based on the homeopathic provings) the lessons are tailored and that has to be meaningful. But what?
Or assimilation with the whole planet
Yes. Even moreso. We are a vital part of the life system, within it and not quite aware. So man feels victimized by these adversities when they probably are a logical part of a whole. Hopefully leading us to knowledge. We have yet to move beyond the brute attack and start to know these elements.
I know emotional causation of these things in the individual but not the overall evolutionary path being sought. I just see it all as basic life elements in different patterns and these can be rearranged to create health or illness. A slight variation can affect the impact immensely.
lessons are tailored and that has to be meaningful. But what?
That's the point. Something about life and growth related to sickness, rather than microbes, decay, and death.
Cancer cells are asking to be known.
Yes JM,
Let me share a case with you about cancer used as medicine - the homeopathic sarcode carcinosinum.
With permission but without the name of my client who is also a friend of mine.
D is a famous rock climber and writer of guide books for climbing. Without going into great detail about the case the salient point is that he injured his back. It was a severe injury and he was barely able to move for some time. He went to several practicioners, the usual specialists and got no relief what so ever. Using guided imagery i could get him out of pain and ambulatory but he could not sustain it. Finally after a year he decided on surgery. I need to mention that he was in a relationship with a woman, a writer who actually published an article about how homeopathy is quakery so he wasn't too interested in this part of what i could offer. Also, his father who had been emotionally and physically abusive to him as a child had recently died.
D was anxious about losing climbing, his passion and livelyhood. The surgery, not a sure thing, carried high risk. He stopped to visit one day about a month before the scheduled event. Over the months of observing D i concluded that his remedy was Carcinosinum. I offered him a vial of 9 pellets and said if you choose, take three when you go to bed. Remember your dreams and call me in the morning.
Next morning he called. Here is his dream.
He was climbing in yosemite and was on the last pitch of El Cap. A storm was brewing on the horizon and approaching rapidly. The rain and wind began to battter him. He was alone on a ledge his haul bags dragging him down. He looked up and a friend had thrown down a rope from the top, his friend was yelling "cut the rope" (to the haul bag) D looks down and the haul bag is full of people; his girlfriend, his father screaming "don't cut the rope" The rain starts sluicing down the rock and D knows he's going to die. He takes out his Swiss Army knife and saws the rope to his haul bag. It drops into the empty space. He tied off to the lead line and his friend pulled him up.
In the morning his back was painfree. He bagan a yoga program i gave him and in a short while was back to full on climbing.
This is how carcinosinum works. And D's dream and experience of the medicine are very typical.
You can see why i wonder about the lesson of the disease. Certainly the lesson of the medicine is humbling.
Incredible story tseka. How is the carsinosinum made?
This is my major interest in life along with astrology. But they are separate. I see disease as our greatest ally. People think these forces are trying to destroy us and I feel exactly the ooposite.
Did you know that it would work for this man?
I also wonder what is known about the process in the body that can bring an overnight cure like this, although I know all cure is in the mind. At least I think that. Some recognition of something.
I'm also curious as to your perceived role in this medical event.
maybe the whole concept of homeopathy and taking the cause as cure is part of this recognition I sense. And the removal of the enemy perception.
A possibility from my view.
His journey after the injury took him on a path to some sort of enlightenment and by the time he took the carsinosinum he was ready for the details of the cure.
At least this is how I see the personal path out of illness. A realignment of atoms. It is so instructive. How can we so quickly destroy it?
You would be surprised jm about the power of the infinitismal dose. The remedy i gave D was a 1M that is: the original one drop of cancer in 99 other drops of alcoholized water succussed (shaken vigorously) to potentize. Then one drop of that attenuation is combined with 99 drops of water, potentized, one drop of that plus 99.....and so on for one thousand times.
We search particle physics for reasons and do not really have an answer as to why homeopahty works. Dr Emoto who has prayed over water and photographed the beautiful patterns that occur perhaps comes close to demonstrating what occurs in homeopathy.
The principle is simple: homoios pathos: like cures like. Now, this is my explanation, the body keeps searching for the resolution, like going through a file over and over looking for the missing piece. Pain (illness) comes from the piece that is missing once the piece is found the distrubance disappears. And as magical as it sounds this is just what happens time after time if the correct remedy is found.
My role? observing patterns of the spirit, listening, they are all around us in many forms astrology is one, it's why i sit in your salon...listening, lots of wisdom here from others who sense the pattern, the key is bringing it into form.
How carcinosiunum worked in D was very metaphysical, because that is part of his nature, he is a quiet poetic man, an aquarius, a singer.(His ancestry has already cycled through Tuberculinum which is associated with the arts)
How it works in others really depends on their own pattern.
for some it is like a door that opens suddenly and the truth shines, there is a deep feeling of love that flows in....
Others barely feel it's action.
And the results are not nearly so dramatic on the physical, mundane level.
the body keeps searching for the resolution, like going through a file over and over looking for the missing piece. Pain (illness) comes from the piece that is missing once the piece is found the distrubance disappears.
This says exactly what I mean about recognition. Not an invader but part of a puzzle. Homeopathy is really fascinating and due for some elevation soon I believe.
lots of wisdom here from others who sense the pattern, the key is bringing it into form.
I believe that's exactly what we're doing.
And you know my concentric circle theory. It will radiate out from the center. Maybe that's one great thing we've learned in these past couple of years we've known one another. Not to go out and attack the pathogen but use it in this teeeeeny dose to effect the cure. And hope others come to get it too.
He must have had a profound effect on you. Directing you to your powers.
I've had this dream for as long as I can remember. To have an ongoing discourse with enlightened people with no distraction.
Profound affect hmm dunno, but certainly i have been affected deeply by many people's path through illness and how homeopathy has brought relief. It's a powerful medicine / energy. In my presence because i knew the correct substance lives have been rescued at the last moment, that is pretty dang profound. I do not see me as the one who saved a life, homeopathy saved a life, i'm just the one who took the time to remember what some wise and courageous people left for us...
my eyes are closing goodnight deerheart.
Good night, my love.
So good to have you back in the room.
The principle is simple: homoios pathos: like cures like. Now, this is my explanation, the body keeps searching for the resolution, like going through a file over and over looking for the missing piece. Pain (illness) comes from the piece that is missing once the piece is found the distrubance disappears. And as magical as it sounds this is just what happens time after time if the correct remedy is found.
The idea that floated into my head this morning after reading this last night has to do with perspective & perception. The perspective with which we view the world around us, and how we perceive it & ourselves. Those who choose to to look at the larger picture and have a healthy amount of self-respect & positive self image, seem better at identifying those missing pieces.
The other thing that came to mind is the astrological aspect known as the inconjunct (150 degrees). I have Uranus in Gemini on the cusp of my 8th house inconjunct to Mercury in Scorpio on my ASC. With Uranus in the 8th, it adds a Scorpionic overlay to the Gemini. Thus allowing a bit better communication between Gemini & Scorpio than is usual. Plus Mercury rules Gemini.
All this is the long way 'round to suggesting it's been easier for me to identify those missing pieces & allowing for the possibility of naturally better overall Health.
Keep posting your insights for us, Tseka . . . we LOVE them!!! And I agree wholeheartedly with jm . . . it's so good to have you in the room . . . hugs!!!
I took out the double post so kj is NOT imagining things!
Those who choose to to look at the larger picture and have a healthy amount of self-respect & positive self image, seem better at identifying those missing pieces.
Asolutely agree neith.
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