Regeneration and Healing
As you know, I've developed a theory about the significance of the movement of Scorpio to Sagittarius in the astrological wheel. I view it as the bridge to the transpersonal and a rebirth into the cosmic dimension. Scorpio has traditionally been associated with the healer, but I think Sagittarius might govern the actual repair process. Scorpio leads arduously to the source of the wounds, and the Scorpionic surgeon might cut them out violently, or bring knowledge of the importance of elimination, but once that realization is complete, the ongoing process of renewing healthy growth likely takes place in Sagittarius. Chiron was the spiritual physician in mythology and so could the Sagittarian be in actuality.
The Sagittarians I've known have been the most helpful people of all. They do this with true generosity and no complaint. At their best they have a tendency to soothe anxieties and help others recognize that things will be all right. They know what to do to and they're confident. "It will work out", they often say. They sort through things with people, and they're often good-natured.
I help everyone in my life without hesitation as soon as the wounds appear, knowing there is a remedy, that anything can heal, and that faith in the process is best. Even death is sometimes the healer. I'm a sympathetic Cancer but I don't attribute my impulse to come to the rescue with first aid to this fact. I connect it to my Moon-Jupiter conjunction in Sagittarius in the 9th house.
Healing is a process of regeneration. The liver is the most regenerative part of the human body. The liver is ruled by Jupiter. This makes me think that faith is the fundamental factor in the cure, coming under the auspices of Jupiter and Sagittarius. Scorpio takes us to the decay and that which must be released to revitalize, perhaps Sagittarius gives us the healing techniques backed up by the new spiritual information.
So my conclusion is that a major healing process has been initiated with the transits of Pluto through Scorpio and Sagittarius as the dwarf-planet gets ready to travel the last quadrant of the wheel. The explosion of the Trade Towers with Pluto exactly on the USA ascendant was the start of the regenerating process in America. George Bush was the symbol with his south node in Sagittarius. The south node holds all the information of that sign and he came to disseminate the knowledge as this nation awakened to her identity. It's at 19-20 degrees as well, the place where Jupiter was when the Iraq invasion took place at 29 Pisces signaling an ending.
The passage of Pluto through Scorpio brought major disease to the surface, and the transit of Sagittarius brought the start of the cure, culminating with Jupiter passing through Sagittarius this past year across the USA ascendant. The renewed faith, hard for many to perceive, could be guiding this ongoing restoration from now on as Pluto goes through Capricorn and brings inner structural decay to the forefront. It appears as though the United States might be coming into her role as a more enlightened healer and leader with her Sagittarian ascendant, but not without time and attention paid to her internal maladies in the next few years. The corruption in the system has risen to the top and is fully exposed, part of the curative process. As with Chiron, the wounds are necessary, but the techniques for repair are instinctive and the ability to master life regardless, are there as well, ready to be taught to others, as we move beyond this important step from Scorpio and Sagittarius to full collective engagement.
Illustration: Sophy Williams
posted by jm at 3:34 AM
29 Comments:
Very well written JM.
Ophiuchus seems to be an especial place for alchemical transformation.
This area in the zodiac; the last half of Scorpio to the 19th degree of Sagittarius connects to Nordic Myth -jule/namnsdags as surrender, transformation and healing. The 20 degree to the Ullr; the final degrees of Sagittarius are the points of refocus, setting intention, encorporating the lesson and then taking that "light" and passing it away to form the next. The zero point and new cycle is 0Capricorn. But at least my interpretation of this is that the space between 0Capricorn and 0Aries is what might be called awareness readying for birth into the physical.
This is similar to the NW Coast Indian cosmology as well.
I love how it all ties together, the patterns of the spirit in a medicine wheel of life.
I wonder if the word chirurgeon, from the Greek cheirourgós for hand-worker or surgeon, is connected to Chiron. You can read a bit about the history of the word here.
Hmm. Some encyclopediae refer to Chiron as not only a master healer but an astrologer as well.
This is amazing tseka. I didn't realize the last half of Scorpio was involved. There is something talking to me about the 0 Capricorn. So close now. It's intriguing how healing can be something extraordinary or not perceived by the many. People feel this is a sick age, and yet, for some time, I've felt the reverse.
The connections. Jeeeze.
Joe! The wordman. I'm sure this is Chiron. Didn't know this. Thanks!
Here are some more fascinating facts.
The stock market movement is going partly with Jupiter which just turned direct and will be crossing the USA ASC next month just after Pluto and Venus turn direct together. More 2nd-8th and money. The Minneapolis bridge collapse has almost all the planets in the 2nd-8th. When Pluto goes into Capricorn, it will oppose Venus. More 2nd-8th. Pretty simple.
But here's the good one. When Jupiter gets to the 19th degree, Pluto will just be leaving the 26th degree of the Galactic center. To the day.
Interesting, jm. I love how everything seems to fit together so well. I agree with your point made a couple of threads ago that the Minneapolis bridge seems to be a 'messenger event' of the issues that Pluto in Capricorn will be bringing to the forefront.
Minneapolis was most certainly an unexpected location for this event (I probably would have guessed Cleveland or Detroit, given how much the Rust Belt has suffered over here on this end of the Midwest). But there was something that you also said about the people there, about them being of a good nature or something positive along those lines, that would help the city to heal, rebuild and set an example forward for the world to see. Perhaps a lesson in cooperation and working with care to address these kinds of issues? Perhaps the spirit and attitude that we will see more of with Pluto in Cap.
I've read up some in the past about Minneapolis. I was actually considering moving there about a year ago (along with Phoenix, Raleigh-Durham, Virginia, etc) for all the positives that I read, and the fact that it's still "home" in the Midwest. I'd still like to visit sometime, perhaps over the next year or so.
Count me among joe and ninth with Cap Moons. I somehow don't think I'm all that stoic though, with Chiron sitting conjunct my Taurus Sun and trining my Moon at 6 Cap. I haven't quite figured out what energy he best represents, though I have leaned more towards Aquarius/Uranus at times, maybe because of the isolation/independence I've felt at times. I think Sag also makes sense in a way. The teacher and student. He is a centaur after all.
Neo, I'm overwhelmed with feelings about what's happening in my country and where we're going. I read that Minneapolis is doing well with the adjustment and repair process, so I think you're right that it will be an example.
I also considered Minneapolis once. I am particulary fond of the heartland states that have developed sophistication but keep old fashioned values. It's happening all over. Great regional theater too. Americana with style and class. The West is getting beautiful. Montana might be the next mecca.
In my paper today I read something interesting. Denver now has a 49% white/anglo poulation. That amazes me. Pluto in Sagittarus has shifted the ethnic blend quite a bit, and there will be results from this.
I don't know if you read my previous post about the financial changes ahead for us, but the pattern is repeated everywhere. The problem of the rich is clear to the country now. And the realization that the people are going to have to exert their influence is also here.
The bridge collapse had everything in the 2nd and 8th houses, part of this repeating pattern. Pluto will oppose Venus first to get the ball rolling. The financial structure will be under tremendous scrutiny. Something is amiss in corporate-land too, I think. Stock market and the tax break they want for thecorps. Something fishy here. All is not well, I think, in rich man's heaven.
I was thinking earlier.
I know it's hard to believe that things for society could actually be good, but many are looking in the wrong places. The politicians and governments are a small part of the whole. One point I was making is that by the time the sickness is exposed the healing is already underway.
But no matter what the rich, famous, and powerful are doing, life goes on in many other places with good growth and health keeping the whole system in equilibrium. The governments have been run by criminals forever, so it's not that much to fear. It will continue and we live and work around the criminal elements. We've been successful so far.
People give the impression that Chiron was a long suffering soul, his wound the thing. But I don't think this is the case at all. He seemed to be fine with his wound. He seemed to me to be a rather upbeat enthusiatic teacher of young people most of all, eager to impart his skills. Not focusing on his hurt. Besides, he had the knowledge of how to treat it. So, of course, I've never read him in the chart as "a wound that never heals". Never made sense.
I agree with that assessment of Chiron. Even when I was very young, reading the Greek myths, the "centaur mentor" never dwelled on his wound. It was there in the background but not all-consuming.
As for Minneapolis' character in the face of the bridge, that's a mostly accurate assessment. After the Natives were displaced, the major ethnicity here was Scandinavian for a long time. Something of that cohesion and work ethic lingers, the way the Dakota place-names linger as an echo of who was here first.
Furthermore, nothing of magnitude normally happens here. The upper middle states are sometimes referred to as "flyover country" by the East/West. glitterati. Events, political and natural, happen in NYC, DC, California, Texas, etc., but not so much here.
Maybe this is going to change.
with jupiter retrograde in capricorn and chiron in sagitarius, i have a slightly different take on that largest planet and the 9th. the higher mind and how i have used it have been, at least until age 50 at the chiron return, an essential part of my defenses against deep emotional wounds. my self knowledge and higher truths - the distillation of experiences into held beliefs about self and others and my place in the world and the cosmos - were wrapped tightly with the accumulation of past wounding. healing has meant a repeated shreading of my higher truths.....
healing has meant a repeated shreading of my higher truths.....
i've had the same experience. unbound. :-) scary, the first time. all the freedom, because long known grounding points no longer existed.
a snake is blind when shedding its skin.
thanks KJ ! - sounds like we have been thru similiar territory. i am surprised this discussion has'nt unfolded in more depth. this also connects to the other discussion about the cracks and weaknesses between the rocks being an opening to what is beyond saturn. chiron is one of those cracks between those rocks - but it can be a very raw and difficult place to traverse. with jupiter about to come upon pluto, i suspect the relationship between sagitarius, scorpio, and chiron type healing is going to be explored a bit more ....
I'm surprised about the discussion not progressing too, don.
chiron is one of those cracks between those rocks - but it can be a very raw and difficult place to traverse.
You are so right. He guides us to the transpersonal which is exactly what I was saying and didn't fully connect it with the planetary action. Thank so much! Excellent. And the weakness.
We're moving to the Saturn-Uranus opposition next and this is completely connected to my theories. A post should materialize!
The one thing I'd like to see is the fixation on the raw pain you mentioned. We all suffer and it's a fact of life. I think this is one of Chiron's teachings. We live with it. Use it. Trying to find the people who caused it and inflicting punishment have never ever worked.
Many people are crying over things that happened long ago, and miss the fact that they have to deal with the raw difficulty right now. If they paid attention, maybe the past suffering would ease. There is a mechanism in all humans to ease this ongoing suffering in between bouts.
Again, the healing of Chiron. I think Iraq might be teaching us this ultimately. Who can let go of the agonized blame and who cannot. Chiron seemed to be OK with Hercules, who was a problem for many!
We suffer, we grow, we learn, we develop, we are on our own. It's good to know where the healing remedies are located.
I think, don, that the lack of attention to this subject might reveal how unwilling people are to let go of their old wounds. It's understandable. They are probably afraid of creating space for new unfamiliar ones. They come anyway and make one long wound, thereby bypassing the in-between. The sublime relief. They reopen the old ones constantly.
This piece threatens the old belief that Chiron means suffering which I never thought. He is a great teacher most of all and as joe said, his hurt was secondary. Almost all astrologers cling to the pain of Chiron.
"The Sagittarians I've known have been the most helpful people of all. They do this with true generosity and no complaint. At their best they have a tendency to soothe anxieties and help others recognize that things will be all right. They know what to do to and they're confident. 'It will work out', they often say. They sort through things with people, and they're often good-natured."
That is a perfect description of a Sagittarius woman that I know. I'd love to be more like her in some ways.
jm - "Trying to find the people who caused it and inflicting punishment have never ever worked."
yes ! - it just keeps one stuck in a cycle of self punishment - thats the constant reopening of the old wounds that you refer to .....
but there has to be a questioning and understanding about the value of the wounding we have all recieved - what facets of being human does it compel us to evolve and take into ourselves instead of projecting them and condemning them outside. the perfect example you deal with frequently is people with self loathing who hate the evil authorities. this is where i see sagitarius and jupiter at its best - when insight and the higher mind is turned inward to injest and digest shadow projections.
Kad, I love Sagittarians for these qualities. This is good news. Our country is one and I think we will get there in time.
Don, I'm going to do more on this subject. Thank you so much for keeping it alive single-handedly.
but there has to be a questioning and understanding about the value of the wounding we have all recieved.
Absolutely primary. We can do it, especially after the healing Pluto transit. I don't recall ever blaming others for my misfortune even when I was a child.
this is where i see sagitarius and jupiter at its best - when insight and the higher mind is turned inward to injest and digest shadow projections.
It's such a profound relief to do this. I always wonder why they don't. Blaming the government is as old as the hills and moves us not at all. It's our job as the ones who see this to influence as much as possible, I think. Moreso now.
That is a perfect description of a Sagittarius woman that I know. I'd love to be more like her in some ways.
You are like that. Moon-Jupiter is a lot of it. A genuine impulse to help without ulterior motive. Very very natural which is why it works so well.
"You are like that."
:-) Thank you. I found role models along the way, I guess.
This weekend was proof of the trait in you. :-)
Don,
Sorry I didn't respond to your response earlier. I'm in the process of shedding skin, so am in a bit of a blind. haha. @;-)
Interesting to me was your choice of word "traverse." In old journals, I also choose the word "traverse" to describe the process, as in, "traverse the rubble after the highway."
Letting go of higher truths, after all the effort to gain those truths, was probably the part of the journey that most amazed me. The movement beyond thought, concepts, really any sort of identification. Wide open vista, no touchstones. Probably what some early US settlers felt when they gazed upon the vast prairies, without a tree in sight.
I have many thoughts on wounds, embracing the wound, identifying with the wound, then letting go of the identification, etc, only because that process has been the work in front of me to do. Right now, I'm not sure what wound is open. A friend of mine thinks maybe good old fashioned fear is making an appearance, which of course shocked me, because fear is soooo pedestrian, it has to be something more grand and unusual than that! LOL
At any rate, I'm not one for nursing wounds, in myself, or others. To me, a little bit of compassion goes a long way. Identify with the larger issue that we're all human, we're all wounded in various ways, own our wounds, and get on with the business of living with as much awareness as we're capable of, for that day.
That's pretty much my philosophy. Cultural and collective wounds, however, interest me enormously.
Right now, I'm not sure what wound is open.
I don't think we ever know. They get all mixed up and a present fear can trigger old wound memories and probably even ancient ones. I think more and more we live with them and maybe not agonize over them unless they need immediate emergency attention. I'm beginning to think they take care of themselves if left alone.
Identify with the larger issue that we're all human, we're all wounded in various ways, own our wounds, and get on with the business of living with as much awareness as we're capable of, for that day.
I agree.
What do you think kj? What are our collective cultural wounds?
sometimes it actually seems that the edge of fear - the edge of rawness and woundedness - the edge even of newness and change - are all the same, and its where we are being taken to and asked to reside.
sometimes it actually seems that the edge of fear - the edge of rawness and woundedness - the edge even of newness and change - are all the same, and its where we are being taken to and asked to reside.
Standing joke in the vein of, "Be careful what you wish for," is an intention: Live the Liminal I quite seriously put out into the universe. Since then, of course, it's been one threshold after another, ha! @;-) On the positive side however, IS the nearly constant shedding of skin. It is very close to flying, in a way, I think.
JM, a few years back, when I hooked up with the political collective, I wrote a bit about the collective grief I thought America was experiencing.
In the book "The Punishment of Virtue", Sarah Chayes is making a case for generational post-tramatic stress for the entire population of Afghanistan after the Soviet invasion. The possibilities of this happening to Iraqi is of course, a reality as well.
Slavery is a collective US wound.
Also, the Civil War. One of the most amazing things about living in Missouri has been learning that some old boundaries and dividing lines from those days still exist.
The success of America, what melting pot has been accomplished, has, I think, been the particular target of this latest misAdministration. Instead, tribal ties that could be exploited, were exploited. The Balkanization of the United States.
My fingers are killing me from the packing, ice on them morning and night. Sorry this is so choppy!
The divide between the north and the south is still huge. But something many don't realize is that the north was just as responsible for slavery as the south. They encouraged it to benefit their manufacturing and contributed to the slave trade. The schism runs deep, but I think all countries have some civil discord somewhere.
The Balkanization of this country can't work as these people are discovering. They've been defeated in a bigger way than imagined, which bodes well for our nation.
There is an innate acceptance of diversity in the people here and that won't change.
The Balkanization of this country can't work as these people are discovering. They've been defeated in a bigger way than imagined, which bodes well for our nation.
There is an innate acceptance of diversity in the people here and that won't change.
Agreed!
Another opposing collective is "The Good War" (WWII) generation coming directly before "The Bad War" (Viet Nam) generation. I wonder how those wounds will play out in 100 years.
I like to think the romance of war is finally over.
~~kj
I like to think the romance of war is finally over.
I believe this is happening kj. A lot has happened since WWII, the height of romance.
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