Value and Fulfillment
The Eye Searches
Prosperity sometimes comes in unusual packages.
Joe -- food specialist, wordsmith extraordinaire, egg painter, lover, and sometimes curmudgeon -- created this gorgeous curved body of bursting life and color and it gave me an idea. I'm going to dedicate my celebration of the Pisces New Moon to a new phase of creativity and friendship. A long one. So delicate and strong this egg is with a fertile yolk of a different kind.
"The sap is rising," he sagely says.
Chrispito created this painting entitled, Cardenden, and when I first looked at it, my body and mind were suddenly soothed by the understated elegance and beauty, something I long for in a hyped up crazy world. Nothing grabs, squeezes, or hurts in this picture, and it amazes me that artists can do this regardless of the personal suffering they feel and that all others share and identify with. The subdued emotion and complexity in the sky suggest an odd comfort. So Subtle. Pisces reminds me of both - the inevitable sorrow and the talent for transcendence. I could live forever with this image that softens the hard edges of everyday life and makes it so obviously worthwhile.
This woman is a master. Tseka's painting, November Lights, makes me feel emotions I can barely put into words. Something strong that stabs me with pleasure and some sort of nostalgic pain I can't recognize, but know I need. The light moves off the paper in a way that sends out shards of sensation and gives me goose bumps. There's solitude, stimulation, peace, sadness, joy, and something that simply makes me want to live and go to the next experience. Some strange anticipation. It moves. I can even almost smell the scent of the winter ice and woods and sense the lure of the unknown. I love this one. You can see the gallery with other surprises and make purchases at amazingly reasonable prices at Tseka One Dance. Still gotta give gifts.
I'm proud of my friends and proud of myself for finding these special ones. Talent is worth more than any king's diamond palace or any fool's gold.
73 Comments:
I was not expecting this, your words reach deep to my core JM. I wish we could add your music (Jazz Mira)to this wonderful celebration. Maybe your writing is music enough. Our imaginations will fill in the spaces as it moves from curve to soft ancestral roots then the more plutonic one. You are incredibly gifted my deerhearted one. You help me see better.
O, Jm. thank you over and over. i love being here with you guys so much. my heart is fulllllll....lol!
All incredibly wonderful pieces.
4 outstanding pieces by 4 very elegant, talented women the 4th being the over flowing generosity of jm in showcasing her friends.
I feel truly blessed to peek in here even with with face pressed up against the glass.
Thank you for sharing.
beautiful works, i hope to purchase something from your gallery one day Tseka. i went to the website and saw "you are under the protection of cats". it soothed my soul as my wife and i are under attack right now and we treasure cats.
Wow. Gorgeous. congrats to the artisans among us.
Thank you for creating such beautiful works of art. It is wonderful sharing them like this. Thank you for the pleasure and peace you have given us, with these beautiful creations. JM your writings are music to my ears, I love all your writings. They sooth and bring up my adrenalin too. They bring out my passions, of knowing I am feeling, learning, and have the energy to work for tomorrow.
You too, tseka. More than you know.
Our imaginations will fill in the spaces as it moves from curve to soft ancestral roots then the more plutonic one.
We earned it. No shortchanging.
My lyrics are the most important part of my music, so writing in any way is my art. The feeling of words -- Mercury in Cancer square Neptune. It's all the same. I'm getting closer to knowing it.
Such beautiful beautiful comments.
Chris, you started it!!! Venus-Mars in Aries.
I feel truly blessed to peek in here even with face pressed up against the glass.
What???? You're in duCan. Way in.
PSW appling away!
Missed you mpk.
Good chiron!!!!!!
It's growing in me every minute how valuable good friendship is. After the Pluto transits my Scorpio South Node seemed to calm down a little bit and refrain from messing with me mercilessly! I think I'm more free to enjoy people for who they are outside of my sometimes problematic desires, so now people actually have a better chance of satisfying them. I've always loved my friends anyway, no matter what. And Neptune is in my 11th house of friendship now across from my Leo stuff, so you and I are the lucky beneficiaries! I do love Neptune.
They sooth and bring up my adrenalin too.
The ideal. Thank you dble aries for steel and fire love and for bringing out my bravery. And for cutting through the thickets.
So with Venus in Aries for so many moons, I'm going to love myself and you like never before! There is too much good in us.
Many thanks for all the kind words, i echo Christy, my heart is fullll.
MPK, i'm sorry you and your wife are under attack. For me it was most of last year. It is very wearing. I wish for you a rapid release. Meanwhile we commit to the shared joys where we find them. You are one of the bright lights.
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PSW, I am glad to find you here. I read your comment a few days back detailing your travels and missed the chance to comment then. It has stayed with me for days. The price of a house in Detroit shocked me. Silently so much has fallen into decline not just the big Katrina emergencies but a steady decline in many places since the 70's. A miasma has drifted across this country. Words from a talented writer such as yourself bring this into a clear focus. Thank you for taking the time to write it here.
DuCan just out of lurking and we are so GLAD! Our Pie/cake lady!
Chiron another insightful astrologer who is willing to share, make me think, what a gift - you have no idea.
And Dble Aries with your energy and passion to add to the board's delight.
You each and all (and many others who pass through this salon) bring so much into my life. It is a good moment to express my gratitude. Re-echoing Chris, my heart is full and you all make it so. What we value and what brings fulfillment indeed, JM is the scout and director of an amazing place in space, a collection of the eclectic which finds a unique voice in the wilderness. And for you JM my XXXs & OOOs will never be enough.
O, to be in such exalted company!
Dad was a Pisces so he was my intro into the qualities of the sign, and he embodied many of the classic traits. But one thing he did, and what I associate with the sign, was to recognize the infinite variety of each moment and the freedom of choice. The family was always in a dither and he didn't pay much attention to the criticisms. I never heard him criticize anyone but one Capricorn family member who truly was impossible. It didn't occur to him to judge. He figured they were who they were and did what they did. That was that.
It's funny how we try to mold others into something we think we can fit into, when all along we fit anyway. Or don't fit. All that work!
The whole idea of positive and negative is nonsense to a true Piscean because they don't really exist. Within a "negative expression" is hidden positive, and vice versa. So the non-judgmental trait defines it all. We miss so much trying to define and delete, making things what they're not, the Virgo side of the axis. But of course, sometimes we think it's necessary.
It will be interesting to see the conclusion of the Virgo-Pisces time.
So what's this about an attack?
They always come to everyone. We falsely think it's a question of good and bad, but I think all conflict is for learning and strengthening purposes. Survival and all. Attack comes to vulnerable spots that need attention.
A miasma has drifted across this country. Words from a talented writer such as yourself bring this into a clear focus. Thank you for taking the time to write it here.
I agree. The miasma has yet to be fully recognized. PSW got it and ran with it, lacing it with insight and poetry. So welcomed in my book.
Chiron and I agree that the times ahead are going to be (chiron)/could be (JM) fairly bad. I'm not a complete fatalist. Considering my experience with Pluto I do think some in depth pain is coming and this poor country doesn't have an inkling yet. The crash in leadership has already come, but they have yet to accept it. So I'm preparing already by thinking of ways to get through and weather it well. I know for certain that our relationships are part of it, especially now with Pluto opposite Venus.
And for you JM my XXXs & OOOs will never be enough.
They are always enough.
So as the populace is tripping down the garden path, and the minority are saying "cool it," we have a conflict of interests. I look at it this way... The reminders of what could be ahead work as inoculations in small increments and help people prepare. Scorpio 12th witch doctors like chiron, of course, feel that we can take the full dosage. We probably can.
The gentle nurses will always be around.
Virgo-Scorpio is a good blend of healing techniques, the natural signs of the quincunx.
Today I spent time in the "low desert" around Palm Desert (Palm Springs). I had taken my mother on our twice monthly "bun run" for things we cannot buy from the farmer's market. If you only participated in communities such as these you would be clueless as to the suffering other places. To all outward appearances the world is still on a shopping spree. We saw license plates from most states and Canada. Big fancy cars, mostly new and we lost count of how many had no plates yet as they were that new. Shopping carts were piled high with "stuff" not necessities,- party foods, liquor.
It's an odd world. Around me, just 50 miles away, houses are being auctioned at rock bottom prices. No work. Losses. Still they are the ones who feel the need to build high walls around their houses and hire armed security. That says something about value and fulfillment.
Your Papa was so wise.
Virgo-Scorpio is a good blend of healing techniques, the natural signs of the quincunx.
oooh. Isn't that the truth. Another gem to keep in mind.
To all outward appearances the world is still on a shopping spree.
Omg, I'm so glad you brought this up. Last Saturday the traffic was twice the norm here. They were all SHOPPING! It's so dep deep deep in the American fabric to shop when distressed. This is going to be a long haul.
The lesson of value and fulfillment is not going to come easy. And why should it? That's why I'm underlining the whole Pluto transit ending with Mercury and fair exchange.
Still they are the ones who feel the need to build high walls around their houses and hire armed security.
This, of course, is forthcoming. The first reaction to threat of loss. If people don't release, then Pluto does major loss work. The decision is ours. Giving up the illusion of the savior is the big one as Uranus finishes. See how hard they'll cling. I'm with you Pluto!
Why lock up everything? You are only locking up yourself. I've always let thieves have my stuff. I figure thy need it more than I.
The government is clamoring to pull many fast ones coming soon in your local political theater.
Speaking of Academy Awards, this administration is going to get the top prize. South Node in Leo. Put on your gowns for the show tonight.
Yes. The place the quincunx lands describes the type of healing. Scorpio is more deep, surgical, and radical, going to the root in the psyche, ideally, and healing permanently.
Virgo removes symptoms until the time comes for the radical steps if they do. Both can be equally effective.
Maybe the idea of Virgo is to give the body a chance to heal itself without the extremes. Saturn in Virgo could be doing that now, but in a few years comes Scorpio. That should be interesting being in mutual reception with Pluto. Most interesting.
It will not surprise me if when Saturn moves into Libra we will see Micro-financing spring up all over. Short term loans of small amounts to our neighbors by collecting a few dollars among many, an end around big financiers. How websites like this one generate positive discussion and feedback loops cannot be underestimated. We've been practicing for several years. We do not understand this aspect of Uranus/collective very well yet, but i think about the phenom of e-bay where the opportunity for an individual to sell a few items in a grand virtual store could be a model for something in banking.
The banks could all fail, markets die and the creativity of the people would find a way out. This is America's gift- our brashness and ego. Uranus in Aries could be very interesting.
That's why I'm underlining the whole Pluto transit ending with Mercury and fair exchange. There is an interesting parallel in Nordic myth to the squirrel (mercury) who can go to the poisonous roots, and carry messages to the "spirit animals" who wander the branches of the tree of life. Mercury is the protected messenger.
The banks could all fail, markets die and the creativity of the people would find a way out.
Might be close to that. Creativity will get out because it has to for survival at this time in history. We have to have major innovation and it starts with money right now. The only way to get there is to lose it, and that's why we're literally throwing it away and the establishment is going to murder itself grabbing for the morsels. They're taking all we have now and we will be better off for it in the end. We're already building from scratch and you're right. The online community is in the know. That's not where they are.
We can bypass more than you know.
There is an interesting parallel in Nordic myth to the squirrel (mercury) who can go to the poisonous roots, and carry messages to the "spirit animals" who wander the branches of the tree of life. Mercury is the protected messenger.
That is fantastic!! Perfect.
First and foremost and the hardest poison to deal with is the habit of watching what "they" are doing exclusively. Like a horror movie where you have to wait and see what happens. It's what you and we are doing that matters.
That's the problem with so much Cancer. Too reactive. Aries is active and that's what's ahead. Initiative.
Reactive: Let's get Rove!
Are you serious??? Do you really really truly think that's going to solve centuries of problems like a pitiful Stimyouless game?
I will not give up. Reaction and revenge eat up so much precious life force it's not funny.
Action, initiative, looking forward, and forging ahead are easy in contrast. It take self-confidence though. And forgiveness for being suckers for so long.
And please, with the savior schtick, if possible. New Moon in Pisces??? Jesus is tired. He's taking a long overdue nap.
That's so interesting about the squirrels.
They are omnipresent and up to something all the time. Knowing. Solitary too.
In the typical paradoxical method of the myths, not only is the most deadly poison at the base of the roots but also the "well." The three roots are tended by the norns, seers of the past, present and future.
And as a gift to us our ancestors left us with this " the tree of life is always rooted in the heart," all life, past present and future is rooted both in the well of wisdom and guarded by the "poisonous" serpent and this is where we find our heart. (!?)
In other places we discover that the serpent is the elctro-energy that runs beneath the earth's surface. The fafner or white dragon is in fact enlightenment. Our poison until we understand its value and function.
Put on your gowns for the show tonight.
Rats, my gown is at the cleaners, which is just as well because I can't bear to watch it.
HA HA HA HA!!!
Joe, too bad. I haven't watched them ever. Never will. No one's that interesting through so many repeats, especially not two bit politicians.
I caught snippets out there, however. It was quite a show.
In other places we discover that the serpent is the electro-energy that runs beneath the earth's surface. The fafner or white dragon is in fact enlightenment. Our poison until we understand its value and function.
I love this concept - snaking beneath the surface. The oil, water, minerals, etc. - the earth's riches that are also poisonous. Very interesting. So much like Pluto and the underworld. The most deadly poison at the root is the River Styx, so Mercury and Pluto are quite the couple.
I think all substances are poisonous. It's in the fractions. Healing and psychedelic experience are based on accurate dosage of poisons. Maybe knowledge is in general.
Karl is funny. A one man show and I identify.
What the market was clearly looking for was a clear, concise plan to deal with the mess. I didn't hear that; I heard lots of sizzle ("we'll make sure the banks have enough capital") but no steak, and after Geithner's fumble that's unlikely to be good enough.
This is in terms of the market, but unfortunatly, that's where the public's retirement funds are. I heard too much deception in the speech about the financial situation, but I expected that. When he got into his little campaign fervor and said it wasn't about saving the banks, it was about the people, I almost cried over the outright lying. The insult. I really don't like it. The people are being forced into saving the banks in case anyone noticed. Another scam. But the people are catching a tiny glimmer of fact. They'll get it just in time. Maybe.
State of the Union Verdict: BOOOO
The deception was pretty bad. Style nice. finger pointing good. Teeth sparkling. Truth absent.
Impressive old people on stiff knees getting up and down like a rusty water pump. Gotta hand it to the crowd!
We actually do have problems. Thank heaven they always seem to solve themselves in spite of human intervention.
So now comes the public orgasm, the worship meter flies up, and everybody tries to figure out if it's all good or not. Looking at screens for the truth. He said, she said, they said, you said, Billy said, Gertrude said, someone said, anyone said! This person was impressed, so I will be, and the thud in the heart when one of your favorites has criticism, everybody wondering what everybody else thinks before they make up their minds, and the show goes on. But the comet says it's good. It's just a man!!!
And the good sneaks in and out.
I really do love life and its ultimate enigma.
Meanwhile, the economy weeps. Wisdom waits....waits....waits....
I'm glad I'm not one of us.:o)
My wife and I are being falsely accused of abetting a crime and our good name is being slandered. It came out of the blue. Too bad there is no DNA testing for this sort of thing yet. Maybe this has a "meaning", I don't know yet. Currently it's made me a skeptic of everything -especially all those tear-jerker stories. Extortion. I already know the only real value is within so I'm not sure where this ends because I didn't pick this fight.
Mpk, I thought of this in terms of Pluto just behind your ascendant and I'm not surprised. I'm so sorry you have to experience such a thing . I can't stand being falsely accused. You bring up something important. I just wrote something on real extortion - the way of the world. It is tragic. It's why I'm so upset with the socio-political situation now. Extortion is exactly what this administration is doing. I am livid.
There's always a sound reason for everything but crime (Pluto) is such a hard one to figure out. You've been talking about power a lot lately, so maybe this bout with being so completely overpowered is part of it. Will you be able to prove your innocence?
This is awful. One thing about reputations is people forget easily. If you triumph over this, and in some way you will, it could push you up to a level you've been desiring.
Pluto is leaving your 12th and it's the house of hidden enemies, so this is the last hit before your rebirth, which will come at the end of the year. Power is at stake.
Another thing coming is Uranus to your Mars with an increase in aggression and self defense. Mars in Pisces can shrink from this sometimes. You'll have to stand up for yourself so you might as well start now.
I think we all are going to have to face genuine extortion. And the crimes we commit too. The accusations the public blithely makes. I'm amazed at the denial now, but after Uranus goes into Aries, we will get stronger and tougher. You are almost a harbinger of the collective lesson. Accusation is not to be taken lightly. Very very important.
Stay calm and figure your way out. This is a heavy one, but with Pluto where it is, it could be the last of this kind of weight for some time.
Did anything happen around 2000 or soon thereafter? That's when Pluto went into your 12th.
I was just thinking about crime and metaphysics and I have an article in the works. One of the least understood of all phenomena.
You have a way of going to the source, mpk. You seem to be unafraid of truth.
Being skeptical is probably wise and you might be ahead of the curve. There's intuition at work but time is also often required to get to know the facts before trusting. I had a huge lesson in that when Pluto hit my Jupiter. The moment I trusted the wrong party I knew it, but it was too late.
The collective scenario is a metaphor for our personal ones and we'll all probably have to learn to become more discerning. When this administration crashes and people see the stark reality, healthy skepticism might come. People confuse it with being suspicious and negative, but survival needs say something different.
It's an ancient ritual to study strangers before committing trust, and to react to signs of betrayal when they arrive. Clues are everywhere consistently.
But out and out lying is not good, as you are discovering, and many others would do well to discover the pitfalls of this behavior too, especially from those who are pretending to be trustworthy and in positions of responsibility. Lying and implicating others is a deep hard one.
JM,
This place is a treasure...
Tseka
I had to go back and read what I had put down. I think this comes from my Jupiter in the 12th house. The all seeing eye in the raging universe, the big picture, the vast perspective.
Words from a talented writer such as yourself bring this into a clear focus.
For you to say this now has such deep meaning to me. I have been writing every day since my arrival here in nyc, my first novel, and it has become a transcendent experience. So thank you.
So much of the current experience is psychological. The damage is to the psyche on a constant & visceral basis and in this one I think Obama got it right. We need some oratorial vigor, some belief that we will get through this and we will. I do believe I see him as Prometheun/Uranian energy beginning to reshape discourse. Right now the fire is raging but in the wake of it we need to begin to plant the seeds for our next experience.
As of now I have Saturn conjunct Pluto, the old structures are being torn to the ground and resources stripped from my grasp. The first reaction is to hold onto these structures, to plead they not be taken. When you relinquish and let the flow of the river carry you toward the other shore you feel a great peace come over you. I see this in the people. They are clinging to the outmoded realities of the past, the foundations that have guided them for the past generation and letting go is for them a drowning...I see it in so many structures and modalities.
Energy- Fossil v Wind/Sun/GeoTherm
Politics- GOP/Reaganomics v Progressive Ideals/Proactive and involved government.
Demographic Shifts- RustBelt/Sunbelt/Agricultural v Creative Urban centers
Industrial shifts- Manufacturing v the Creative Class/High Tech
Land Use- Industrial Farming v Sustainable Agriculture
Religion/Spirituality- Old religious modalities Catholicism/Open Bible Christianity v True Spiritualism/We Are God/Astrology/Eastern religions/Buddhism/Hinduism
World Power Shifts- The West ie Europe/US v East ie China /India/Asia
Philisophical- Egocentricism/Modernism v The Collective
I could go on & on and I may be wrong about some of what I am seeing but this is the energy flow to me in the all seeing eye...
m.p.k. Gasp!
This is terrible. It happened to me, (mid -late 90s, Pluto through the 9th house)0r us I should say as i was in a committed relationship and we were both the targets. There were two different attacks, two different countries completely unrelated. We won the judgments in each but lost so much financially that there was no recovery. We both were artists with very little so it took a lifetime to create not very much and it was swept away quite fast. In the end all we could figure was that we were vulnerable to others who recognized an opportunity. As the facts became known both parties were very experienced in suing others. Some people are career criminals. We were very slow to understand the game and that's what it was, something plotted out long in advance. Sigh.
It is a very discouraging process. For us it was all we could live and breathe for a long time. For those of us who treasure our integrity it is the worst. In the end i can only say that i am much more sensitive to the narcissist, the preying nature that exists in humans.
I wish you and your wife the very, very best.
Thanks so much sharing JM and Tseka. This is a tough time as you seem to know perfectly.
PSW you brilliantly wrote the following observations:
"They are clinging to the outmoded realities of the past, the foundations that have guided them for the past generation and letting go is for them a drowning...I see it in so many structures and modalities. Energy- Fossil v Wind/Sun/GeoTherm
Politics- GOP/Reaganomics v Progressive Ideals/Proactive and involved government.
Demographic Shifts- RustBelt/Sunbelt/Agricultural v Creative Urban centers Industrial shifts- Manufacturing v the Creative Class/High Tech
Land Use- Industrial Farming v Sustainable Agriculture Religion/Spirituality- Old religious modalities Catholicism/Open Bible Christianity v True Spiritualism/We Are God/Astrology/Eastern religions/Buddhism/Hinduism World Power Shifts- The West ie Europe/US v East ie China /India/Asia
Philisophical- Egocentricism/Modernism v The Collective I could go on & on and I may be wrong about some of what I am seeing but this is the energy flow to me in the all seeing eye..."
You are not wrong! I cannot believe my eyes. I was telling someone this very same scenario (in different words) over the weekend. People are holding on to their old beliefs etc. not wanting to let GO! I see it in the people around me. Some are having it yanked from them while others are consciously relinquishing. This is the work of Pluto.
The present state of the economy/Stock Market was predicted 2 years ago by several mundane astrologers. I was totally prepared for this. The transformation of the economy will have a trickle down effect on every area of our life style/society because everything hinges on the economy.
I constantly look back and marvel how things have changed since 2000. How my life has changed because of Pluto and It is with this same expectation and excitement that I look to the future.
Just yesterday in the local news people were discussing how to change the way they do business because no one is shopping. So the local vendors are coming up with creative ways of exchanging goods and services. A year ago this would have been unthinkable in this affluent, oil rich, no deficit Province that was envied by the rest of the country.
Creativity is the key word of the future!
duCan
Thank You...sometimes I fear I am losing my mind! There is a fantastic article about the exact creativity you are talking about here in Brooklyn regarding food. Its in the NY Times.
http://travel.nytimes.com/2009/02/25/
dining/25brooklyn.html
excerpt "To get the slightly battered convection oven for their new Brooklyn chocolate factory, Rick and Michael Mast traded 250 chocolate bars.
The chocolate is as good as legal tender for Andrew Tarlow and Mark Firth, owners of Marlow & Sons, the restaurant and specialty shop that bartered away the oven. “We can’t keep it in stock,” Mr. Tarlow said. “It sells better than anything else.” About two years ago the Masts were trading truffles for beers at a local bar. Now Mast Brothers Chocolate has a national following as one of the few producers in the country, and the only one in the city, to make chocolate by hand from cacao beans they’ve roasted, in that oven."
It is fascinating what is percolating below the surface.
PSW
Thank you.
SynchronicityI I just read that article yesterday in the NYT on line. OMG this is amazing.
Amazing about the chocolate! Good news! You are right about the percolation below where the white dragon wiggles.
In the end i can only say that i am much more sensitive to the narcissist, the preying nature that exists in humans.
That says it all. Just look around today.
Thank you mpk for relating your predicament. It has more parallels to collective experience than you know. In the midst of the confusion and deception, it was a strange relief to hear some simple pure honesty. The attempt to paint rainbows everywhere just doesn't cut it at the moment and the force to do that is oppressive and dictatorial. Like all things, this will work out, but like tseka, I also have memories of the preying experience - mine was a Jupiter-Pluto thing like hers. As a matter of fact, you have Pluto in the 9th. Something for me to study here.
I think the Mars in Pisces factor relates to everyone and the hard wish that all would be good without major substantial struggle. Pisces likes to dream it away and now I think with Uranus leaving, reality is beckoning and still being resisted. Your story is a reminder that we never know what's ahead and surprises should be allowed for, both good and bad. Sometimes events aren't good and that's all there is to it. But my philosophy has always been that bad times are buying good ones. And vice versa, of course. It's a perfect continuum. Denying that it's bad when it's bad is the bad part.
But I also think we're prepared and our inner selves can foresee, work with what comes, and do the right thing. My interest is interpretation. Things are not what they appear to be. Often the opposite.
Life knows how to throw a curve, that's for sure.
Interesting food for thought in terms of Pluto and Jupiter and the recent transit of Sagittarius. And soon the Pluto opposition to US Jupiter.
I wish you and your wife the very, very best.
I second that.
Words from a talented writer such as yourself bring this into a clear focus.
Tseka
For you to say this now has such deep meaning to me. I have been writing every day since my arrival here in nyc, my first novel, and it has become a transcendent experience. So thank you.
PSW
I sing.
And you are a treasure PSW. Tseka's magnificent intuition and interpersonal sensitivity? Well, we knew that. The medicine woman. Welcome to the lake.
Really ...
We won the judgments in each but lost so much financially that there was no recovery.
My Pluto-Joop too. It certainly does reflect the times. This makes me want to investigate the Pluto opposition even more. I wonder if this suggests that the country's recovery will be different from what's been experienced before.
You have the inside on the Pluto Jupiter JM and i'm all ears since it will be squaring mine for a while.
This makes me want to investigate the Pluto opposition even more.
A fertile place to study it would seem.
I wonder if this suggests that the country's recovery will be different from what's been experienced before
I cannot imagine anything except something completely new. Uranus on Aries point will demand this globally. The US is innovative for all our egocentric brashness. I've always worried that we would tame ourselves too much.
Trading has been an important part of many sub-cultures, it's a tradition in all the rural places i've lived.
I'm still lobbying for money as a utility, like water and electricity a flowing essential energy that is useless hoarded. First step seems to be dumping the fear that we are not going to be ok. This country enjoys incredible natural resources and we can cultivate more abundance than imaginable given what we have.
I remember an elder (a grandmother) shaking her finger at her nephew who was whining and blaming his drinking on his miserable poverty- she pointed to the bay and told him if he could not live with appreciation of all the abundance he was given at his doorstep he deserved his miserable life.
I do not know if he took it to heart but i did.
At the same time we recognize abundance, I also think we have to acknowledge limitation in a new way, so perhaps the feeling of destitution is a prerequisite. Sugar coating can be problematic, and once we see some stark lines, I think a new relationship with abundance will come.
Misery is part of the overall and there is room for that too. Some suffer, some not as much. That remains. Losing retirement funds is kind of serious, but they'll come back in time. The loss is actually an opportune moment in terms of Jupiter and faith in the future. Money is only a part of the guarantee. The loss will continue up and down for some time, I believe while Pluto opposes Venus-Jupiter. People are concerned about aging parents and children so it can be scary.
And some people thrive on stoicism, denial, and the ascetic life, so material abundance isn't always the way. Even misery has it's plusses. Ask any good Capricorn.:-)
It's basically an expansion of consciousness.
I also think over-optimism is due for restriction after the years of Sagittarius. And that's a relief sometimes. Optimism always remains in seed, so not to worry. But the temporary loss might be a good thing.
I do not know if he took it to heart but i did.
There's that league of grandmothers again. :o)
This is good stuff to think about. Jupiter rules the US asc. so the opposition is especially important as her natural exuberance gets tempered by Capricorn.
Since Pluto came into my Sagittarius 9th, then crossed into Capricorn I'm fresh into the change. It was almost to the day that I felt my usual Alice in Wonderland philosophical view take on a new incarnation with added realism, and even some cynicism, which is OK by me. I'm developing a new blend of high expectation with the knowledge that realizing these aims is limited by time, space, and circumstance - the realities of the earthly plane. I find myself actually enjoying the sensations more than I thought I would. Expectations can be lowered with good results, one of them being the added possibility of achieving the goals!
In terms of the country, I think all this talk about building mythical castles, leading the world to unknown heights, and all this Neptunian fantastic promise will have to be diminished as she comes home to take care of her own. I think this is the good part as the pressure comes off for a minute and she becomes just an ordinary country. Sort of. She'll be back in a different way. But first some pulling in with Mars retro for 80 years. This is gear stripping time.
"America is ready to lead again?" I don't think so. I think in the fairness of equality we should let some others have a chance. The Leo NN says she will lead in time but in a much more rounded and experienced way. With wisdom.
I am certain that this economic situation is a "managed crisis."
We bought the package when allowed TV and commerce to decide for us what has value. We do have some voice left, options, we have websites like this that discuss what value and fulfillment mean to us as individuals. If we keep putting in our potential outcomes and alternative paths to renewal we help balance the scales.
I've participated to long in a mercantile society to be exempt. I am outraged that in my country tent cities are going up overnight and becoming huge towns within towns. Meanwhile the former homes of these very people sit empty. And the shoppers shop. And the vandals vandal.
How did that song go? "The pump don't work 'cause the vandals took the handle"
We bought the package when allowed TV and commerce to decide for us what has value.
I have so much to say on that I don't know where to begin. But it's a symptom of the hucksterism that has always been the American religion and economic system. The hucksters have outdone one another and there's no more purchasing power.
People came here for freedom and/or money. Somewhere the money took over. Now maybe it's freedom's turn. Freedom to be without. Freedom to not-purchase. And of course, freedom from television.
I believe housing might change dramatically in this country, and yes, the value system will too. None too soon.
It's totally a managed crisis. It's the old Problem-Reaction-Solution game. Manufacture a crisis, generate a reaction, and ride in with a pre-packaged solution.
Look at ol' Ben Bernanke:
"We believe the effect of the troubles in the subprime sector on the broader housing market will likely be limited"
- Ben Bernanke, May 2007
"There is a reasonable prospect that the current recession will end in 2009"
- Ben Bernanke, February 2009
Suuuuuuuure.
It will be interesting to see what happens to wall Street. Something is up. Or down as it were.
I keep looking at what the current package it that they are "selling" i'm not sure i get it yet. We just get a teaspoon at at time. One thing i do know Americans have said that they would let the banks fail and take their lumps to get to the bottom of this, W/O this stimuless package.
Sorta flies in the face of being called irresponsible eh?
Don't forget, joe, that they stand to profit no matter what. So they can say anything. Depends on election dates.
I don't think their pre-packaged crap is going to do well against Pluto though.
I don't think their pre-packaged crap is going to do well against Pluto though.
Or angry grandmothers.
Sorta flies in the face of being called irresponsible eh?
They're coming 'round. I'm heartened. It will be more-so when Uranus gets to Aries.
I keep looking at what the current package it that they are "selling" i'm not sure i get it yet.
I don't think they have it yet. Don't think they will.
The speech said it all.
Nothing.
The economy is probably going to continue in free fall because it must. So in a way I think we're free from their machinations finally. They can do nothing. It's been done. The damage is complete. the rest is details.
Ja, the market is interesting - how low will they go? It seems to be a battle between Banking (and those creative CDOs and wild gambles that are coming to light) and the regular business markets.
Looking into the crystal ball does anyone see a parallel banking system emerging?
But the whole economic huckster system is our creation in total. Easy money, the American pot of gold. Even impoverished immigrants who had no pot to piss in got caught up in the greed once they got here. So we can't blame anyone and in that way, we can't count on anyone to fix it. We're on our own. I have a couple of pots, thank god.
Well as you know Joe, i have a strong sense that the archetypal Grandmother describes Capricorn. Capricorn is a feminine sign ruled by Saturn.
Oh yes. Parallel will come. It has to. Pluto-Jupiter and shared moneys. Going to be big changes.We can shut the big ones down any time if we want to. If stop letting the government steal our money right now.
Of course the Lairds were selling the American dream to all the serfs they were shoving off their properties. -You are freemen now- loaded them up on the white armada with only enough food and water for 60% survival and stories of a country paved in gold and honey.
What's amazing is how the story stuck in spite of reality. It was the dream that kept them alive. And it's hard to kill now.
One thing that is happening simultaneous to the banking melt down is people are refusing to participate. Now we do have our happy shoppers in places like Palm Springs - a recreation. But overall people are saying no. And if they make this their new lifestyle, a choice of freedom over greed, well, hummm, could be interesting. Market forces and all that, heh. The big guys may just get more of a comeuppance than they expected.
Tseka
I could not agree more on two of your recent comments.
First step seems to be dumping the fear that we are not going to be ok.
This letting go is essential and this was one of my recurrent thoughts on my journey. Fear keeps you from finding the truth.
One thing that is happening simultaneous to the banking melt down is people are refusing to participate.
In some way I feel this is our punishment to corporate America for the unbelievable hubris with which they have abused the trust of the collective consumer and I don't see this changing back to the 'good old days' (ugh) Trust and value will become much more important as we are all becoming anti-corporate and ramen is still very cheap...
JM
But first some pulling in with Mars retro for 80 years. This is gear stripping time.
This ought to give us enough time to close the approximate 900 U.S. military bases we've used to expand U.S. hegemony for the past two centuries...were going to need the money.
Amen on the military bases.
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