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posted by jm at 1:00 AM
Wednesday, October 11, 2006
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- Name: jm
I am a brilliant creation of the universe formed from the cosmic protoplasm sailing into eternity. I have two hands, two feet, a couple of great ears, and I'm clipping through life at a moderate pace; minding my p*s and q*s, crossing my t*s, dotting every i.
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The sun is out? It rained on me everytime I walked out last night at work. The real kicker is that I was supposed to have that day off! I got cornered when I went in to pick up my check. That is not fair, they don't mail the checks, you have to go to the office to get them. You can not answer the phone and dodge them, but you know you have to have the paycheck.
The bad part is that I am one of only a few people that are allowed to handle that post. So when I am on days off, I usually get a call to fill in. The funny thing is that the corporate office is bitching about overtime. Then the manager had to explain that because of the high security on that post, only certain people are cleared to even work there.
Take that into account, and the fact that we lost two people that were allowed to work there. I am so needed there, that I could actually just not show up for work, and would not loose my job. I am the one that actually trains supervisors there! They store explosives and small amounts of radiation there, and you cannot have just anyone in charge.
Donnie you must work in one of those places i was very concered over during Katrina.
You all don't even want to know how beautiful it is here right now . . . crisp air, blue skies, lovely Fall colors in all the leaves . . . :-) I'll just enjoy it for you . . .
the first f-f-f-few flakes in the air today
here in twin towns
meanwhile i make my hair to pay
wrestling with a horary question
It just goes to show you that you can't please everyone! I got lucky with neith and awoke to a brilliant fall day.
Donnie, are you one of those good guy suckers!
I am so needed there, that I could actually just not show up for work, and
would not lose my job.
Silver linings.:-)
pd!LOL! Do you do horary charts yourself?
What are horary charts?
An horary chart is a chart set up to answer a specific question. The time the question is asked is the basis for the chart.
There are exact ways of reading them different from other charts.
Cauliflower soup here tonight, rich, creamy the perfect end to a warm day of gardening, pruning. Shorts weather today, but after the sun sets sweats and flannel are the garb du nuit.
And later the down duvet will be sngged up, good sleeping weather, finally.
The pace of autumn has taken hold, slowing me down to enjoy the sound of the wind in the leaves with Zamma walking the branches overhead. I've been planting junipers and sages, perinnials the rabbits won't eat...i hope, sometimes they surprise me.
OK, so the horary chart would be more likely to be about an event than a person?
I've been planting junipers and sages, perinnials the rabbits won't eat...i hope, sometimes they surprise me.
It is hard to tell what deer & rabbits will avoid . . . I love junipers & sages though. They smell wonderful when warmed by the sun. The bobcats most likely are doing their part to keep the rabbit population under control . . . along with your bush wolf. Nature's systems work quite well if allowed to. :-)
heh- you know dem rabbits, dey's busy folk, very busy....a bazillion come around for snacks and water they don't even move when i pass by, just keep munchin'
so the horary chart would be more likely to be about an event than a person?
Yup. Often called event charts.
You would not believe how the rabbits have taken over Denver. There're everywhere. There's a lot of wild land in the city and they enjoy all of that, but a new group has become the urban animal of the times. They hang around the ritzy shopping centers and downtown in the pedestrian mall. Leaping on the grassy knolls and thoroughly enjoying the parade of people. They are so funny. Good eats in them there alley dumpsters. Fresh greens!
No, I definitely don't do horary charts myself. I'm getting some guidance and inspiration from Deborah Houlding's excellent site skyscript.co.uk.
My question and chart, if anyone wants to take a crack, are: where are my software disks? asked 10/10/06 at 9:14:33 PM CDT, 44N59 / 93W15. It's a doozy: Neptune on MC, Moon 12 Gemini, AC 16 Gemini, Mercury 12 Scorpio. Moon just past the quincunx to Mercury and square to Uranus, applying to Venus (which is "in the Sun's beams": not so good). Moon in 12th not good either, in my understanding.
The issue has stumped me for months, but I was so exasperated that night that I finally popped the question and stopped my astro-clock.
Part of the analysis involves the planetary hour of the question. Anyone know where on the web I could find that?
The calculation is tricky, based on dividing by twelve the two spans marked by sunrise and sunset.
If your computer uses the Windows operating system, there's a nice free program. It has a calendar for browsing the planetary hours of different dates, and a moon phase feature.
I'm a Macmaniac, but maybe there's a widget out there.
And by the way, jm, the wabbits have taken over the twin towns too. I've recently seen a fox a couple blocks from my place, just 4 miles plus from downtown towers.
Here's a planetary hour table: http://skyscript.co.uk/hourrule.html
The skyscript planetary hour page has a link to a terrific Naval Observatory page to generate a sunrise/sunset table for a whole year for your locality.
Doing the calculations, I get a chart on a Mars day during a Mars planetary hour, with Mars in Libra traditionally weak and also "in the beams" of a (traditionally weak) Libra Sun, in the Sun's natural 5th house. A somewhat mixed bag, but boiling down, I think, to an unwelcome outcome.
Weally! Wabbits?
KAD!!! Are you secretly an ace astrologer?
I don't do horaries. I was going to learn and got sidetracked.
I was wondering if there might be an easier way to track these disks by retracing steps or just keeping up the search. They have to be there don't they?
I'm not sure. I recently changed the locks because I suspected someone might have gotten access by means of a loaned key.
Then again, I considered storing the disks in a different place. But did I? Don't think I would've switched to a much harder place for ME to find.
Hence Neptune overlooking everything.
And hence the air grand trine: goin round and round in my mind, with the way "out" through Mercury, the urge to keep on thinking deeper and deeper.
I would think you stored them someplace else if they are important. Is this an office?
I lost a full can of primer recently and when I finally found it it was right there in full view. Down, though, where I don't usually look.
If the Moon is square to Uranus then they might be someplace you don't suspect at all.
Moon in the 12th? A closet?
Home office, with a closet (where I used to store them) -- I've looked thoroughly and repeatedly there, as well as the office itself, which is small and rather cramped. Sometimes I swing my chair around to face the full wall of books, and wonder if there might be some spot there . . .
Moon (11.49)was just past both square to Uranus (11.26) and quincunx to Mercury (11.36).
pd, you may have rabbits but I have monster gray squirrels. Trade? Blasted little shites keep eating my tomatoes, not that I have any left after that killing frost last night.
"KAD!!! Are you secretly an ace astrologer?"
NO! :-p
One of my aunts had a book about neopagan beliefs. Planetary days and hours was described in there. The best time to cast spells, and what not. So I know how it's all done, not that I do it.
I also downloaded a program to keep track of sidereal time. Research suggests that the best time of day to use intuition is when the Galactic Center is rising near the horizon. There is also a worse time of day. Haven't tried any experiments yet using the clock. :-)
yeah, joe, my moonflower plants -- and they grew BIG this year -- are black and shriveled. No more of those glorious white blossoms this year -- one morning back in August (I didn't make note of the date to track the lunar phase) I swear there were at least 20 on that bushy colony.
now if I could just recall -- or someone could point me toward -- a piece I saw last week about the unusual Scorpio stellium that's soon to begin.
-pd-, middle center of bookshelf next to something orange???
I DID find them behind the books on the top shelf -- I was SO SURE I'd looked there before.
top center, I should say.
Not the orange??? i was not too sure about that myself....
good one, kj
it made so much sense that I'd put them where I did, behind the books I considered the most magical
This is wonderful!!!!
Excellent tseka! How did you come up with the impression?
I knew you were going to find them, pd, and I am so happy. The magic books! What a joy after so many months.
If we continue to put our selves together like this, who knows what can result?
I'll post the info a little later on the Scorpio stellium, pd. I'd like your opinion.
How did you come up with the impression?
Other patterns that i see 'round here we call it the "finder sense" perhaps it's like dowsing?? usually works better if i know the space but the question was asked well by -pd- or i would not have been able to respond -true desire- and it must be able to be found or want to...
who the heck really knows? As my son says, "some things are."
Well, that explains it!
I've learned something from this. All these psychic predictions being thrust about in cyberspace have all been wrong. It's been ridiculous for a long time.
There is a gentle aura that surrounds pd and I got drawn into the quiet grace on this. Then lo and behold, the psychic connections works.
I think this is how it goes. Humility and grace surrounding this gift. All the pain and rage elsewhere have made it impossible. I've never seen so many wrong predictions in my life. People "sensing" another terrorist attack every other day, dark martial law times and all of that. Of course, the psychic gift is going to run light years from this.
The way pd's longstanding predicament was solved step by beautiful step, rather quickly, is extremely heartening. It's the same with my music. The grace runs when I'm angry and in pain. Not to deny these natural things but not to poke them over and over with a stick is a good idea.
Thank you everybody for the faith.
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there is enough for everybody
Kadimiros, deep gratitude for the Sgr A info correlating to LST it provided the Naval calulator so handy for correcting to longitude. It's an interesting spot as i know you are well aware. MC/GC.
You're welcome! There is another clock utility that reads your computer's clock to convert to your local sidereal time. It doesn't work with an observatory, so your computer's clock must be reasonably accurate. But it's more convenient in that it will remember, for the next use, the location you indicate (pick any city in your time zone).
Hmm, Pluto and the Galactic Center precisely conjoin again on December 29 this year, and will again sometime next year. The Sun has its annual passage through that sector just after mid-December.
I have the MC near it, but you and jm have planets near it. I remember hearing the idea that the horizon (the Ascendent/Descendent axis, archetypally Aries/Libra ruled by Mars and Venus) relates to our orientation to space (how we interact with our surrounding environment; the personality) and that the meridian axis (MC/IC or 10th and 4th house cusps, Cancer/Capricorn ruled by Moon and Saturn) relates to time (where we came from, one's past experiences, and where we are aiming to go, our objectives for the future, identity).
I just came across one article that states: "The pulsar at 24 Sagittarius, 2 degrees before the G.C., provides information relating to the past of an event; that at 28 Sagittarius, 2 degrees after, provides information relating to the future of an event. Those with connections {conjunctions, squares, oppositions, etc.} on either side of the G.C. will more naturally tend to orient information in one of these two directions. Balance may be sought by meditation with the alternate point, using the G.C. as the fulcrum between past and future." How people get such definite ideas, I'm sure I don't know.
In keeping with the December theme, does our world resemble Scrooge in some respects? Maybe we should have anticipated visits from the Dickensian spirits over these couple of years. :-)
The Ghost of Christmas Yet To Come was truly Plutonian and frightening, at least to me when I saw the movie Scrooge as a little kid. Guh! It's dark facelessness under its hood could be compared to a "black hole" or void. And of course it was a most powerful agent of transformation for the people in that story.
Very very interesting once again, Kadimiros.
The birth, when the umbilical is cut, sets us terrifyingly out on our own in space. I think this is why we form relationships. To get back this primordial connection, and to find balance in this disoriented state. Aries/Libra is self/other and our basis for safety spacewise.
We don't connect with time until later and you are right. The 4th/10th is past/future.
Oh how I wish all astrologers could have the understanding you do.
The pulsar at 24 Sagittarius, 2 degrees before the G.C., provides information relating to the past of an event; that at 28 Sagittarius, 2 degrees after, provides information relating to the future of an event.
Thank you. New information for me.
Pluto has been at 24 for almost 4 months. This verifies why I think a letting go of the past is occurring in a big way. Pluto will be moving off two days before the election. The nodes will be at 28. Pisces, the North, and the future. Very interesting. Exceptional.
I have so much there but interestingly, I have Venus at 24, 2 degrees before, and Uranus at 28 2 degrees after. It is the energy point of my whole chart, the spring to my destiny. Very intense.
To delve into this a little bit.... Relationships are a thing I am both leaving and entering this lifetime, all at once. Almost everyone I enter I know will end, and when it does, it is complete and permanent. I get into the new ones totally and immediately. It's a starkly different approach to relationship than I've always seen around me, so it took some understanding to know what was going on.
I don't build futures with people (Uranus 28). The future is already there at the start. They can last forever theoretically but still the lack of permanence underlies.
I also get a lot of deja vu when I find people. Almost EVERONE says to me "Don't I know you fron somewhere?" I t's astonishiong. Sure does add to this past 24 theory.
This is actually starting to blow my crazy little mind. The recognition thing got to be ridiculous. They want me to tell them where we met before, and of course, I can't. Amazing.
"Oh how I wish all astrologers could have the understanding you do."
Oh, I don't have it consciously, exactly. I just sort of stroll merrily down garden paths, checking out the sights. I might be projecting patterns of unconscious knowledge, though, so I start seeing connections and parallels.
You know how to see.
And you can explain in more depth what it means. :-)
I'm just learning to see, I think. Maybe something is coming together for me.
"Aries/Libra is self/other and our basis for safety spacewise.
We don't connect with time until later and you are right. The 4th/10th is past/future."
This must be related to that idea of the symbolic "cross of space and time." I overheard in passing someone using that phrase once. It intrigued me because of the religious connotations implied, but I didn't really understand.
"The recognition thing got to be ridiculous."
Ah, if people get that instant connection to your music, it's no wonder.
Alls I know is that you are opening dimensions in my astrological thinking and also providing a much needed contact for my knowledge.
You have an innate ability to see the broad connections, the symbolism, and the meaning in practical terms as well.
I have these with the special talent of being able to see the whole person in the chart and what his destiny is in simple terms.
Very few can do what you do. For example, all the asro experts have been writing gargantuan volumes on the Saturn/Neptune opposition and saying nothing of note. Nothing sticks. Nothing remembered. Hardly Saturn/Neptune, which is bringing Neptune into time and empiricism. To be used.
In the discussions here we have put it together with experience already and now are even consciously demonstrating what it means to us.
Plus we can follow a theme through with concentration (Saturn) and stick to the study. It's ongoing through the whole transit as we relate the current events in our lives. It's called getting with it.
This is fantastic. The future is not the point. The book knowledge is not the point. What is the point is experiencing the phenomenon with full participation, contrasting and comparing individual responses.
Ah, if people get that instant connection to your music, it's no wonder.
Very interesting. They do. But with the Uranus coming up the disconnect can be abrupt. This is what can be troubling, but it shouldn't be. As long as the initial connection is established it will automatically keep returning.
Very good to keep in mind. This will help in my new approach.
Another thing I love about our astro talk is that you seem to share the ability to thoroughly investigate an avenue of thought. I could easily spend a lifetime just on Jupiter. So I get extremely frustrated with others when the discussion jumps too fast to the next boring thing. Connections are never made and the experiential factor is missing. The love of the topic as well.
Most of them are too much in a hurry to try and make astrology take their pain away. Solve their problems. Provide instant answers.
Not me. If anything, it opens up more questions, and certainly is not a parent or babysitter, preacher or teacher.
People are too quick to want problems to go away. It doesn't do any good as they are soon replaced with new ones.
Should I? Shouldn't I? What should I do?
If you're asking someone else it's unlikely it will be solved if it's some personal life issue.
There is no solution. It's a series of puzzles and adjustments. The cramp and release of life are a given no matter how hard we try to escape it.
The neat thing is that in exploring something, it unfolds.
"Hardly Saturn/Neptune, which is bringing Neptune into time and empiricism. To be used."
And to evolve together, the particular and the universal. That's a major theme for left-brained, Western societies. How to reopen the door to the numinous.
It's also the opportunity for cognitive shift. Seeing the negative space around things equally with the positive, therefore seeing context which is the right brain, and then comes multi-dimensional perspective which requires both hemispheres. It's hard for many people to do both and get out of Flatland. It's like moving from line to plane to sphere. Depth perception needs two eyes.
"So I get extremely frustrated with others when the discussion jumps too fast to the next boring thing. Connections are never made and the experiential factor is missing. The love of the topic as well."
We want to deepen understanding. The feelings need to take root for wisdom to grow. Here are some phrases that caught my attention recently, browsing around and musing about this topic.
Feeling + knowledge = understanding.
Art is neither linear nor rational.
The inexpressible is nevertheless experienceable.
The infinite understood through finite particulars.
A world in a grain of sand.
Greatness means greater-than-normal perception of reality.
We stand between past and future, between reminiscence and hope, sharing memories and dreams.
We do truth by living it.
"People are too quick to want problems to go away. It doesn't do any good as they are soon replaced with new ones.
Should I? Shouldn't I? What should I do?"
The painful truth! They have to want to evolve their own natures, then the problems become interesting. Reminds me of the story of the man who went to a Zen teacher and asked him to write some words of wisdom. The master simply wrote on a piece of paper, "Attention." The man, puzzled over it, and asked, "Is there more?" The master then wrote, "Attention. Attention." The man said, "I can see that you wrote, 'Attention', but what does it really mean?" The master then wrote, "Attention. Attention. Attention."
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