Tuesday, November 28, 2006


I had forgotten how the frogs must sound
After a year of silence, else I think
I should not have ventured forth alone
At dusk upon this unfrequented road.

I am waylaid by beauty. Who will walk
Between me and the crying of the frogs?
Oh, savage beauty, suffer me to pass, that I am a timid woman, on her way
From one house to another.

Edna St.Vincent Millay 

35 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Salish say, When the Frogs begin to sing, six weeks the Salmon run.

And this is true.

If you listen to the songs...

28/11/06 6:14 PM  
Blogger jm said...

How beautiful.

28/11/06 9:40 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

Time for more verse!

* * *

Creation Song

Sing! cries the bird. Sing!
The warm night embraces you.
The white moon shines.
The dew falls in sweet joy.
Love beckons: Sing! And find!

Speak! croaks the frog. Speak!
Though your voices be harsh;
Words plain, uncouth:
Reality's in frogginess,
And each leap's a truth!

See! shines the star. See!
For creation is grand,
Moments dear, few.
From star stuff you're made:
Remake the night! Renew!

Hear! whispers wind. Hear!
Your voices are my voice,
Though I can't see the stars.
Breathe new life into new worlds --
I'll carry your words far.

30/11/06 9:21 PM  
Blogger jm said...

That is joyous kad!

Reality's in frogginess,
And each leap's a truth!


LOL.

30/11/06 9:51 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Here's one from Federico garcia Lorca:

when the moon sails out
the church bells die away
and the paths overgrown
with brush appear

When the moon sails out
the waters cover the earth
and the heart feels it is
a little island in the infinite

No one eats oranges
under the full moon.
The right things are fruits
green and chilled

When the moon sails out
with a hundred faces all the same,
the coins made of silver
break out in sobs in the pocket.

30/11/06 10:03 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

So regular and so wild. A different rhythm from the Sun, always meeting and parting from her sibling, and constantly changing yet always facing the Earth.

30/11/06 10:32 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Great description. "So regular and so wild" is a good one. That's descibes moony me.

always meeting and parting from her sibling

Like the sibling thought.

I always think of the moon playing among the trees humorously. Hide and seek.

30/11/06 11:03 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

The image of the two rhythms interweaving through time is evocative. They must have elicited awareness of inner rhythms of life and consciousness in people seeing them throughout the ages.

The solar is often associated with the linear and the rational, and the lunar with the poetic and metaphorical. The solar eye and the lunar eye. Together, depth perception.

Hmm, tomorrow is the grand trine in fire, again, with Saturn and Pluto.

30/11/06 11:46 PM  
Blogger jm said...

tomorrow is the grand trine in fire, again, with Saturn and Pluto.

Of course. No wonder the upbeat mood and spiritual interest. It's on my natal fire trine...23 Aries, 22 Moon, 24 Saturn.
Thanks for reminding me. Wonder how I should spend the evening.


The solar eye and the lunar eye. Together, depth perception.

Never thought of that.

The nodes are where they cross and I'm sure this is a synthesis of these rhythms. Another great insight and addition to my research.

I think the Moon reminds us of ancient tunes and rhythms. The Sun maybe more present as we read the movement as linear time on earth.
So the Moon would be a different clock.

1/12/06 12:03 AM  
Blogger jm said...

The solar eye and lunar eye. Interesting that the lunar eye can be looked at indefinitely by the human eye, whereas the solar can only be glimpsed briefly.

1/12/06 12:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I never thought of that either. Lunar eye and solar eye. The Sun has been called the Eye of God or the Great Spirit, but no one mentioned the Moon.

Interestingly, the Moon has been viewed as masculine and the Sun, feminine, in some cultures. Amaterasu, the Shinto (Japanese) Goddess of the Sun, comes to mind.

1/12/06 4:30 AM  
Blogger jm said...

It intrigues me how people see the opposite in things. I wonder what determines this.

We are so conditioned to see the sun as male and the moon as female that I find it hard to conceptualize.

The sun creates the beautiful sunsets, flowers, etc., so maybe this could be sensed as feminine. And the moon can be cold and strict maybe. More masculine. Interesting.

The moon seems closer, though, which would be a big one for the feminine side.

I wonder if water figures i more in the masculine moon cultures.

1/12/06 1:36 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

There's probably a general biological influence, but it is good to remember that actual individuals are unique.

Well, the "hatha" yoga is called the union of the "solar" and "lunar" forces. Yogis talk about balancing the left and right sides of the body and about the brain hemispheres.

It's tied in with their approach to internal and external balance. Besides day and night, there is also a natural transition between the subtle energies every ninety minutes or so, evidenced in the alternating openness of the nostrils to breathing.

Transitions are periods of mental calmness, centeredness and balance, when changes in the mind and body can more easily be effected. Yogis perform special practices between midnight and dawn, when there is less resistance, to rebalance their metabolic patterns.

1/12/06 4:09 PM  
Blogger jm said...

there is also a natural transition between the subtle energies every ninety minutes or so, evidenced in the alternating openness of the nostrils to breathing.

Fascinating once again. I thought it was sinus problems and environment, but I HAVE noticed the changing passageways. It must be in this rhythm, as it keeps adjusting to the changing external.

Yogis perform special practices between midnight and dawn, when there is less resistance, to rebalance their metabolic patterns.

This is when I function. I was born at midnight as well. Have to think about this. I have never questioned my nocturnal pattern and have many reasons for adhering to it. This is an added insight.

Transitions are periods of mental calmness, centeredness and balance, when changes in the mind and body can more easily be effected.

So this can be drawn out. It must be what yogis do. The calmness after midnight is very very apparent. I also work late at night out in the world. The later the better.

The cocktail hour...sunset..is an intersting slot, though.

1/12/06 4:31 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

I think we humans do tend to look for our own characteristics in the rest of Nature.

Interestingly, birds, butterflies and some fish have the reverse design of mammals like us when it comes to the pairing of sex chromosomes. A male bird has two similar sex chromosomes paired, whereas a female bird has two dissimilar ones. Might explain the evolution of the peacock's tail.

1/12/06 4:38 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I wonder if the 90 minute cycle effects water in the body. Of course, hormones are. It's really a fascinating thought...a constant 90 minute rhythm.

I've also noticed when I'm stressed, that periods of relative calm keep seasoning the process. I wonder if it's connected.

1/12/06 4:40 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I think we humans do tend to look for our own characteristics in the rest of Nature.

Definitely. We seek identification. Kinship. Maybe to find familiarity in the vast world and to feel less overwhelmed. An overall mimcry goes on in all of nature. Music I think started as a copying of natural sounds.

We are a natural part of any environment so there is a given similarity. The differences culturally can probably all be traced back to geography, I think.

A male bird has two similar sex chromosomes paired, whereas a female bird has two dissimilar ones. Might explain the evolution of the peacock's tail.

There's always a logical reason. But a peacock's tail? That's a great one!

I do wonder about the logic of chromosomal pairing.

1/12/06 4:46 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

"The calmness after midnight is very very apparent. I also work late at night out in the world. The later the better."

Yes, and at such times the value of introspection and inward attention can be magnified. A good time to bring the conscious mind and the subconscious together.

Other times, outward attention may be more appropriate.

I think people would be better off if they could structure their daily workflow around the natural cycles of their brains and bodies. The activity levels of the brain hemispheres shift repeatedly throughout the day, too. Some tasks are just better done when the brain is in the optimal state for them.

1/12/06 4:53 PM  
Blogger jm said...

A word on this grand fire trine today and transits. I find that the energy is strongest right before. By the time the transit is exact often the work has been done. But not always.

Today I feel relaxed so rather than going out and celebrating hilariously I thought I'd go get some Gorilla Glue instead. I'm searching for the perfect glue and I haven't tried this one yet.

1/12/06 4:54 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Yes, and at such times the value of introspection and inward attention can be magnified. A good time to bring the conscious mind and the subconscious together.

It's a question of distraction. The world is mine to do with what I will alone at night, so interference in these processes is under my control. I can follow my mind undisturbed.

It's interesting with the darkness, as well, that one usually doesn't look out at nature in these hours but at the objects of one's own creation. The feel of nature is there, the anticipation of the daily commotion, but the lapse in these hours is conducive to human development in a unique way.
The lack of human communication advances it even further.

BUT....enter the NET. communing at all hours. A curve has come.


think people would be better off if they could structure their daily workflow around the natural cycles of their brains and bodies.

And how. This is the problem with mass behavior. It is so erosive and part of the overall subjugation and feeling of fear. Corporations know this and capitalize. People follow without will.

1/12/06 5:01 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Other times, outward attention may be more appropriate.

For what reasons?

1/12/06 5:10 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I thought of something.

I could experiment with a clock and see if I can track these 90 minute intervals. Or even impose a rhythmical calm as a side effect. A larger breathing pattern, larger diastolic systolic.

1/12/06 5:14 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

"For what reasons?"

I was probably thinking of metabolic and general reasons, nothing too specific. Waking up around sunrise, for example, is more natural than at other times of day. There are changes in the blood then, I've heard. But, there are other factors, and I think that an individual's most natural cycle, overall, could well be different from the general pattern of other persons.

1/12/06 5:35 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I think outward attention would basically be for neutralizing. Polarity. To reconnect with the opposite in a rhythm. Maybe there is no specific gain in the worldly exchange and perceiving this would give a more accurate expectation.

The outer realm does provide for our material survival needs though. Maybe ascertaining just what these are is a problem for modern society, where desire has confounded need.

I was thinking tonight with time off. What do I need? Gorilla Glue? I can get that tomorrow. People? Probably not. Food and drink different from what's around here? Probably not. Escape? Probably not. Doesn't usually work well. Entrance. Maybe. Just to go out and come back in. That's probably the best reason.

1/12/06 5:51 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Entrance and exit. This sems to be a basic need like a breathing pattern. Portals. Re-creating our births to start anew.

1/12/06 5:53 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

"I could experiment with a clock and see if I can track these 90 minute intervals. Or even impose a rhythmical calm as a side effect. A larger breathing pattern, larger diastolic systolic."

Sleep cycles are 90 minutes. Some people experiment with polyphasic sleep. It keeps the mind fresher, enhances creativity and the communication between levels of consciousness, and harkens back to when people were attuned and alert to the night.

1/12/06 10:49 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Very interesting. So then why the sleep patterns of today?

I like napping and when I wake up from them I have an energy that is entirely different from night sleep.

The idea of 90 minute cycles throughout night and day has got my attention.

I think old people sort of do this naturally.

1/12/06 11:08 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

"The Sun has been called the Eye of God or the Great Spirit, but no one mentioned the Moon."

Here is one, and I am under the impression that there are others: "From very early times in Egypt the Sun and the Moon were regarded as the eyes of the great falcon god Horus, though the two eyes eventually became differentiated, with the left eye (the Eye of Horus) often being regarded as the symbol of the Moon and the right eye (the Eye of Re) being that of the Sun."

Kinda like surrealism, if I think about it!

I have a sketch of a tree dividing the sky into two faces looking at each other. The profiles of the faces are outlined by the tree trunk. The faces are the negative space in the drawing. The Sun and Moon are positioned where the right and left eyes of the faces might be. In the tree trunk is a hollow wherein a small child is dreaming.

1/12/06 11:11 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I really like this concept of the luminaries as eyes. I'm going to keep this in mind. Apply it to astrology and the nodes.

The sketch is a good description of this. Where from?

1/12/06 11:57 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The eyeball out of its socket does actually resemble the full moon.

I also get a feeling as the moon moves that it's watching us.

2/12/06 12:01 AM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

"So then why the sleep patterns of today?"

Probably tied into why the world is out of balance in other respects.

2/12/06 9:20 AM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

"The sketch is a good description of this. Where from?"

It comes from a shamanic type dream I had circa 1990 A.D. The tree bears a dreaming child in a womblike hollow. An earth priestess and a traveling warrior fostered the child. The question the dream posed was what changes would be brought when the child finally wakes.

2/12/06 10:29 AM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

The tree could be life, and it could also be the brain with its left and right hemispheres.

"The idea of 90 minute cycles throughout night and day has got my attention.
   I think old people sort of do this naturally."


Minds unmoored from the daily grind. It may have something to do with the third chakra in the solar plexus. Third chakra energy is implicated when people feel that they have to be constantly doing or active.

Could be an unwillingness of consciousness to fall asleep.

2/12/06 11:05 AM  
Blogger jm said...

Third chakra energy is implicated when people feel that they have to be constantly doing or active.

Big big issue. And much more in these comments. More to say.

2/12/06 2:13 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I thought maybe when we get very old we want to stay awake more in the little time left.
But that still doesn't explain the napping. This does.

Minds unmoored from the daily grind. It may have something to do with the third chakra in the solar plexus. Third chakra energy is implicated when people feel that they have to be constantly doing or active.

Minds umoored is a great phrase.

I've never felt this impetus towrd constant movement and have been afraid of being considered lazy. I know that's not so. Absorption is just as productive as expression. And most of what people feel has to be done...doesn't.

This fear of idleness is rampant and irritating to me. Many people talk to me about aren't full engaged thinking of where they're going next.

There is an erroneous belief that busyness equals importance. I feel the opposite. The leisurely type reveals more confidence to me. And the ability to do nothing...superbly confident.

2/12/06 8:22 PM  

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