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Busy week ahead with a Full Moon and all kinds of what-not. Do what you need t'do now. Gemini's a lively one! All kinds of things can happen.
posted by jm at 4:05 AM
Monday, December 04, 2006
Busy week ahead with a Full Moon and all kinds of what-not. Do what you need t'do now. Gemini's a lively one! All kinds of things can happen.
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- Name: jm
I am a brilliant creation of the universe formed from the cosmic protoplasm sailing into eternity. I have two hands, two feet, a couple of great ears, and I'm clipping through life at a moderate pace; minding my p*s and q*s, crossing my t*s, dotting every i.
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103 Comments:
Revelie!!! Get up, get out of the rack, get your boots on! Daylight is wasting! Ooh-Rah!
BTW, Good Morning!
yah, my Aries S/O is a "Rise & Shine" sort . . . his favorite is "we're burnin' daylight". People who poke at me before that first cup of coffee hits, usually find out why my totem is snake. Strike first, ask questions later . . . :-)
neith... ahahahahahaaaaaaa!
My hindbrain wakes up a LOT faster than the civilized Libra part . . . :-)
I've heard tell about that first cup of coffee Snake Woman!!
I've heard tell about that first cup of coffee Snake Woman!!
ha, ha, ha, ha,ha!! Keeps 'em guessing . . . :-)
Neith!
To tell you the truth I don't get much out of most metaphysical sites...the lists of attributres and all. So I was wondering how the snake totem manifests in you and if it's your main one.
I relate to so many animals I can't tell.
AND......
This famous strike of yours (I do hope I never get familiar with it personally)....what form does that take? Hurtful, personal, general, other or all of the above?
Snakes are supposed to be extremely shy.
Mars is at about 29 Scorpio and this is bringing this painful cycle to a close. It's too soon to tell but I feel relieved of something that's been in there for ages causing trouble.
Mars is conjunct jupiter now and there is no doubt that spirits are high.
We were talking yesterday about fear of the future. maybe some of this was eliminated after donnie started the discussion.
It feels to me like some are looking forward to what's ahead.
I noticed where Bolton is resigning. A sign of the end of this fool empire. Jezeus.
I had snake dreams most of my life, so snake was a Shadow Totem for me until I surrendered control to the totem.
As to how I feel it relates to me...the personal healing part I've experienced. I has a spot on the back of my hand start to grow & look bad until I started putting sunblock on daily . . . then it just gradually subsided & faded away. Plus I do have a very sturdy immune system and heal quickly in general. Here recently I had scarped up my hands pretty good, and they were just about completely healed in a week.
The psychic/metaphysical parts . . . it comes & goes with focus. I've been realizing the whole "spirtual path" thing for me is just being here & living the best life possible.
So you're not at all afraid of snakes?
I can't get a good answer on my question about the snake's symbolism. The shedding of the skin speaks to me, as does the lack of feet for an earth dweller.
I'm beginning to think different types represent different things.
Hurtful, personal, general, other or all of the above?
Mostly a TOTAL lack of tact . . . which can be quite hurtful to sensitive sorts.
When I was young, I was quite shy, now I'm more solitary. One of the reasons I so appreciative of this particular form of communication, as I know you are.
Really fighting server problems, so it's taking me a long time to get a comment posted . . .
Why would a symbol of temptation and evil also be connected with healing?
When I was young, I was quite shy, now I'm more solitary. One of the reasons I so appreciative of this particular form of communication, as I know you are.
I could write a whole thesis on this.
How does this forum exactly solve the solitary dilemma? Does it preserve identity and solitude but still afford connection?
I know it offers freedom that physical conversation doesn't.
So you're not at all afraid of snakes?
No - but I do respect them and steer clear of the more dangerous types. Now the gentle little bug eaters that live in our yards, I do all I can to protect them. I've held snakes & they feel really neat!! Smooth, cool and very powerful. Scorpio is the sign most associated with the Snake totem, so the qualities are very similar.
Why would a symbol of temptation and evil also be connected with healing?
I always felt it was the Christian reaction to the power of the Mother . . . there is something in that mindset that's particularly prone to seeing evil where none exists. I don't believe most of the native peoples see snakes as evil either.
I know it offers freedom that physical conversation doesn't.
And yet for the best experience of music there is no substitute for being physically present . . . go figure. :-)
I've held snakes & they feel really neat!! Smooth, cool and very powerful.
Interesting how they wrap and cling to the arm. There is also the awareness of the primordial squeeze too, I think. The power. The ability of some to squeeze life out. Also eating live prey. But lots of insects and fish do.
Ah! So much here.
I always felt it was the Christian reaction to the power of the Mother . . . there is something in that mindset that's particularly prone to seeing evil where none exists. I don't believe most of the native peoples see snakes as evil either
Good thought about false evil. That's a big one. What we were talking about yesterday with mars in Scorpio. I DO think, though, that there is some danger in the Mother power.
Is this fear on the sites we were discussing connected to this do you think? Lots of Scorpio there.
And yet for the best experience of music there is no substitute for being physically present . . . go figure. :-)
Words and thoughts seem to be separate from sound. Sound seems to be more closely connected with smell. Survival instinct is aroused I think. Conversation is more detached.
Is this fear on the sites we were discussing connected to this do you think? Lots of Scorpio there.
Could very well be. Scorpio can be the classic professional paranoid. Trust issues play a big role in the lessons Scorp is learning. Plus that tendency to obsess at times . . . :-) See we who have a generous dollop of air & fire in our charts can draw back from the fray more easily. Earth & Water make mud . . . as is one can get stuck in it! "smirk"
There is a primordial fear I think. The mother represents protection from a harsh reality...softness amd warmth, but the sucking factor in femalism can be perceived as a danger. Kind of like getting sucked back in the hole.
It is common knowledge that being in the womb is the greatest. I'm not so sure. Especially at the end when you can't swim around. The kicking gets pretty intense. And the way the mother moves can probably be irritaing in some cases. I would think an baby with a disturbed mother carrier would find relief in getting out.
Sound seems to be more closely connected with smell. Survival instinct is aroused I think.
You're right. heh, since I talk with my hands in motion, that may be why I use what I can to put emphasis markings in. . . . :-)
Trust. Absolutely. Maybe searching for the goddess/mother that eluded them. Maybe that's why the Pluto on my Moon did what it did.
See we who have a generous dollop of air & fire in our charts can draw back from the fray more easily. Earth & Water make mud . . . as is one can get stuck in it! "smirk"
The air is so necessary to good relationship.
Trust and betrayal with Scorpio. The bond that can't be broken under any circumstances. Well, death, maybe.
You're right. heh, since I talk with my hands in motion, that may be why I use what I can to put emphasis markings in. . . . :-)
Yes. The hands being used in this alternative way is fascinating.
I believe that in our society the social whirl has become very disappointing. Our celebrities are more vacuous than I've ever seen. They represent the social order. Maybe that's why the people have taken so enthusiastically to this medium. A chance to re-create the way we connect.
The voiceless aspect totally intrigues me.
Could it, by some stroke of divine intervention, be connected to the shrill screaming voices in our public music? Are the people seeking silence?
I would think an baby with a disturbed mother carrier would find relief in getting out.
ha, ha, ha! Since pregnancy & motherhood were not something I experienced this time around, don't have enough practical experience . . . :-)
We're wandering over into the "female as unknown, therefore scary" now. And I know Christianity really exacerbated that whole debate! I stay far away from bible groups . . . grind my teeth too much in sheer exasperation!!
We're wandering over into the "female as unknown, therefore scary"
I think both genders are feared in total.
Females in power are just like males. It's not gender. It's power over others that scares. Men are terrified of other men. Maybe that's why the necktie noose that keeps death close at hand.
When you look back at ancient societies with nostalgia, I find it important to remember that they also failed for reasons we're not sure of. Both matriarchies and patriarchies. Social organization is beyond gender and beyond our evolutionary reach at this point.
Placing one gender above another is a guarantee of failure.
Could it, by some stroke of divine intervention, be connected to the shrill screaming voices in our public music? Are the people seeking silence?
LOL!!! I know there is a reason I rarely, like never, have the radio on in the background. Too annoying. I used to whistle a lot when walking as a kid. There is that mutable element in the making of music that sounds good to us. Whenever I'm in a really good frame of mind, Christmas songs like Silver Bells or Oh Holy Night, will pop into my head. Other favorites that wander through are the umpa, lumpa song from Charley & the Chocolate Factory, Ole Susannah, and She'll be comin' around the mountain. Funny how some songs stick with us . . .
The song that always comes to me is....I'm an old cowhand from the Rio Grand
You're lucky you have Silver Bells!
Sounds also are lost immediately. Not like words. We chase their illusiveness.
Good thought. Sound must stimulate a different part of the memory in the brain.
Another good thought. Maybe this superficial crap in the air waves is bypassing the important memory function of real music. Memories of connection to nature, the past, etc. The silence is amazing these days.
Maybe this superficial crap in the air waves is bypassing the important memory function of real music. Memories of connection to nature, the past, etc.
Smells & sounds (music) help us make important connections to memories & other data in our brains. I shudder when vehicles go by with the bass turned up so loud it can be heard blocks away. Very damaging to those in the car . .
I think hearing is the first sense that comes in. We don't even use sight until way later.
The first sound we hear is the heartbeat and all of them are muffled through water. We even are connected to the outside world in the womb through this muffled sound.
I would think there is a longing to tone down the harshness.
Smell and sound are like eyes on the sides and back of our heads. Vital to survival and sensing dangers we can't see. It's our 360 degrees.
And sound is all about balance.
The snake has been associated with medicine for a very long time. And I don't mean snake oii. :-) Although, the authentic Chinese medicine made from water snakes is believed efficacious, containing several times more natural painreliever than inferior products made from American rattlesnakes.
Painreliever?
So poison and medicine are found together. I wonder if snake poison itself is medicinal.
The two snakes in the caduceus symbolize duality.
Very very interesting with the FMoon in Mercury ruled Gemini following the New Moon in Scorpio.
The link between the caduceus of Hermes (Mercury) and medicine seems to have arisen by the seventh century A.D., when Hermes had come to be linked with alchemy. Alchemists were referred to as the sons of Hermes, as Hermetists or Hermeticists and as "practitioners of the hermetic arts". There are clear occult associations with the caduceus.
Full Moon Talk
Could we be in the midst of a healing?
"When you look back at ancient societies with nostalgia, I find it important to remember that they also failed for reasons we're not sure of. Both matriarchies and patriarchies. Social organization is beyond gender and beyond our evolutionary reach at this point."
Very smart. I wasn't going to mention it, but you just have. Not to speak ill of the fabled past, but great power can corrupt, and karmic repercussions of old problems are far reaching. Those who began, or who go to an extreme (whether patriarchal, matriarchal, or whatever), may be reacting to something they don't consciously recall. People need to forgive abuses of power that happened on all sides. Then we can move on and discover what can come after.
The power abuse thing is not really gender specific, I think it is related to an imbalance with older parts of the brain...like the "reptilian brain."
Donnie, please see the comment I made in Neith's kitchen about totems. Maybe it would be more appropriate to have posted it here but oh well...
People need to forgive abuses of power that happened on all sides. Then we can move on and discover what can come after.
The power abuse thing is not really gender specific, I think it is related to an imbalance with older parts of the brain...like the "reptilian brain."
So glad this came up. I sit by the sidelines so often since feelings are intense about this but what you said above is absolutely right and very important.
We've got to get beyond this God/Goddess gender perception of imbalance to have great societies.
"The fabled past". Chuckle, chuckle.
The perception of an all powerful patriarch waitng to get us and bring punishment is just as false as an all embacing protective matriarch that will save us from the evil man. Until the synthesis occurs in the psyche, in society, and in leadership, we will fail. Pitting one against the other stalls evolution.
Oh what a huge relief to see these reasonable words from another on my blog. It's the primitive no longer useful lording of omnipotence that is the problem.
Fascinating discussion today. I'm sorry I missed it. But I just have to chime in here with what jm wrote:
How does this forum exactly solve the solitary dilemma? Does it preserve identity and solitude but still afford connection?
I know it offers freedom that physical conversation doesn't.
This is a bane and a blessing both. I've been participating in this Uranian medium almost from the get-go, when the web was very very new. It appeals to me because I can participate in huge conversations that ordinarily would be unavailable or impossible for me to take part in.
Yet it's very isolating. We're connected in ways we never were before, but I spend more time chatting/exchanging ideas with people on the other side of the country than I do with my neighbor next door. We open ourselves up a lot more online than we do to people we can physically see and hear.
Oh yes, I'm well acquainted with this... I love it yet it leaves me wanting something more.
karmic repercussions of old problems are far reaching.
Yes. There is a reason the male is in power now overall. When the taking of turns stops, the progress will begin.
I think this is one reason for the power of sex. This is when the genders unite.
Oh yes, I'm well acquainted with this... I love it yet it leaves me wanting something more.
All experince leaves a wanting. Desire is the prime motivater. Longing never disappears. We keep searching for the FULL experience in life, but it doesn't exist in this way. The truth is, it's already happening. It's perceiving the completeness of the moment.
Yet it's very isolating. We're connected in ways we never were before, but I spend more time chatting/exchanging ideas with people on the other side of the country than I do with my neighbor next door.
I get along with my neighbors very well but I find that it's best to stay detached. I've swung both ways. Gotten very involved with them. Now I get along with them the best I ever have and I talk to them very little. They do feel my presence and comfort all the time though. And it's peaceful. Words aren't necessary.
The USA has a Moon in Aquarius which is isolation and alienation. I think the overall disappointment in the social environment has led to this exchange. I don't find it isolating at all.
In the end, all communication works theoretically. To contrast and pit one against the other is probably unnecessary. It's personal preference.
What I have found overall in physical communication is a whine and a begging in the voice I hear. Pleading to be heard and understood. Crying for connection.
The same pleading is in cyberspace but the warping of time changes it. You can come back in 5 minutes or 5 days and still get the connection on a thought that was previously expressed. It's less frantic.
So demand is slightly diminished.
This is such an interesting one for me.
When in physical communication, smells and sounds probably dominate. Sexual messages abound, hormones rage, and emotions go wild, along with fears and self defense issues. This can distract from the ideas trying to get through. The one big plus in cyberspace is the direct mind to mind connection without having to process the millions of other sensations and clues. It depends on what the individual is seeking. It's an infinite buffet and we choose.
With Neptune in Aquarius now in mutual reception with Uranus in Pisces the neural pathways in the brain are developing collectively. This I think is one reason we're here. Mind/hand/eye growth.
At the same time we are witnessing primitive emotion...greed, lust, murder, etc. on the world stage, and trying, I believe, to understand and transform it. Stepping back and looking at it objectively. A temporary hiatus in excessive emotional participation.
Reptilian being the oldest part of the brain sans evolution.
jm, I'll never forget the first time I was unexptedly handed a snake. I was working as a Naturalist for the Parks and I was not suppose to be afraid of snakes, but I had never held a snake. My first impression was that the snake was hoping with all his heart that I wouldn't drop her. Their scales are delicate and if one is moved out of position, mites get in and begin to devour the snake. They are very fragile, and for the most part hope we will all think friendly thoughts about them are run in fear of their "power".
Astrid
I hadn't thought of it quite like that. Maybe, as you say, without the physical cues, we're able to transcend prejudices that are hard-wired in us and see how much commonality there is.
Astrid, that is fascinating about snakes. I didn't know any of this. The fragility. I do remember the first time I held one without fear and the way she touched my skin. maybe the clinging was protection she was seeking because of this fragility you mentioned. She was a harmless and georgeous creature.
I think the power is what we project.
But snakes are as different within the species as people are. Maybe the scale factor is why they avoid us so much.
The mites are a reminder of how powerless/powerful we all are really.
we're able to transcend prejudices that are hard-wired in us and see how much commonality there is.
I love this idea. I find myself not even wanting to know these specifics. It's such a joy to be free on that judgement.
And you did just that, jm, on Astroworld. I think that's why some people were so hostile toward you: you refused to be defined-- by gender, for starters.
I'm afraid of snakes and can't pinpoint why. This has been on my mind all my life.
Joe, what a thought. I never even considered that the hostility was about that. I remember so so vividly wanting to be free of gender identification.
The hostility was so vast, I would LOVE to understand it completely.
I thought it was all my own projection. My own hostility. But it's true that my defiance of identification has bothered many people.
I do understand that I didn't identify with the group in terms of the obsession with people and the hatred of men (although I think this in fact a hatred of women not faced), but I desired the astrological perspective. There were some good ones aboard but they were crowded out. Amazing. The best commenters were overlooked. I plan to correct this in any way I can. Everyone has something unique to say when they detach from the pressure of belonging.
jm, some of those who were the most troublesome to you have gone on to other political sites and are just as "difficult" there as well. We don't know who people are necessarily. The internet is wonderous because we can connect with kindred souls, but there are pretneders as well, and egos that seek to be boosted. It's unfortunate, but very representative of the world in general. Some day it will be better.
"refused to be defined-- by gender, for starters."
Funnily, sometimes people assume incorrectly when referring to someone with a neutral name. That's happened to me before.
Astrid! You're in blogger!
It's better right now:-)
"But it's true that my defiance of identification has bothered many people."
Maybe they're faced with their own tendency to overprojection and overreaction?
Some friendships that work fine face-to-face have been wrecked over e-mail. Maybe there's a psych study in there somewhere.
jm, I had been registered before, left for a while, and came back. When I came back it no longer accepted my password, but recogzied my other data. It was a cyber trap! Now it did. Mercury must have done something favorable for me.
Funnily, sometimes people assume incorrectly when referring to someone with a neutral name. That's happened to me before.
Not you!
I am very feminine but have never identified with the female role. I cook like a pro but don't want to. I sew but really hate it. I do like home dec though.
Astrid!
Amazing! I guess if just push on it all happens by magic.
Some friendships that work fine face-to-face have been wrecked over e-mail. Maybe there's a psych study in there somewhere.
THAT one I'd love to pursue.
But it's true that my defiance of identification has bothered many people."
Maybe they're faced with their own tendency to overprojection and overreaction?
It always comes back to the self. And all the hate is self loathing.
Okay. This Mars in Scorp and the Scorp/Gem lunation is interesting.
This is the problem for me.
The people who blasted me made many accurate criticisms. A fiery expressive person is going to get slammed. That's part and parcel. That's understood.
The thing that disturbs me is that the group elevated those who do the attacking. The most brutal, far off one of all is the one who is still the leader right now.
The disconnect is something to witness. While they scream about the leaders above them they don't see the same characteristics in their own leaders. And it's so damned obvious. The brutality is validated and yet they want kindness elsewhere. I know they can see it if they want to.
Back to leadership and good governance.
Correction when well done inspires the miscreant to WANT to do better. Reward is the way. So in no way will removing the brutal leaders now solve any problem at all until the group learns how to change bad behavior in a way that really works. Until they can sincerely end the cycle of punishment.
"Not you!"
One time, I was writing under the name "Linn", and a college guy started chatting me up every now and then. We talked about tai chi. I started feeling suspicious when he asked me my age. Later he wanted to see a picture of me, and I reminded him that I was too old for him.
The linguist Deborah Tannen has very interesting observations about gender and communication.
"I discovered the markedness inherent in the very topic of gender after writing a book on differences in conversational style based on geographical region, ethnicity, class, age and gender. When I was interviewed, the vast majority of journalists wanted to talk about the differences between women and men. While I thought I was simply describing what I observed -- something I had learned to do as a researcher -- merely mentioning women and men marked me as a feminist for some.
"When I wrote a book devoted to gender differences in ways of speaking, I sent the manuscript to five male colleagues, asking them to alert me to any interpretation, phrasing or wording that might seem unfairly negative toward men. Even so, when the book came out, I encountered responses like that of the television talk show host who, after interviewing me, turned to the audience and asked if they thought I was male-bashing.
"Leaping upon a poor fellow who affably nodded in agreement, she made him stand and asked, 'Did what she said accurately describe you?' 'Oh, yes,' he answered. 'That's me exactly.' 'And what she said about women -- does that sound like your wife?' 'Oh yes,' he responded. 'That's her exactly.' 'Then why do you think she's male-bashing?' He answered, with disarming honesty, 'Because she's a woman and she's saying things about men.'"
Studies show something similar in perceptions about mass media, too. Partisans on opposing sides can even perceive the same content to be hostile to their own point of view, and too favorable to the other side.
I am very feminine but have never identified with the female role. I cook like a pro but don't want to. I sew but really hate it. I do like home dec though.
LOL!! Sounds like all the air & fire to me. Betty Lunstead & others assign "masculine/yang" to fire & air, and "feminine/yin" to earth & water.
The Aries ASC, Moon in Sag want to rock n' roll too much to be very domesticated. :-)
The thing that disturbs me is that the group elevated those who do the attacking. The most brutal, far off one of all is the one who is still the leader right now.
Would that have been one of the Buddhist contingent?! Is it just me, or does it seem an aspect of human nature to want to polarize, compartmentalize and just generally insist that one set of beliefs has to be better than another. As opposed to simply being another belief system...period.
This has been one heck of a Full Moon! Nothing subtle about this one . . . my mind has been in overdrive!!
"While they scream about the leaders above them they don't see the same characteristics in their own leaders. And it's so damned obvious."
Was that an astrology site?
That's very interesting.
So they identify with a role or a group in a limiting way, and fail to generalize the lessons offered by their experiences.
I read a poem by a guy who was so embittered that he wrote soothingly of the day when cataclysms would come, the hand of the Great Mother, and wash the planet clean of patriarchy.
If I gave him a key to release his suffering, he would cling to his identity as desperately as if for his life. Unfortunately...or fortunately...whichever...he'll have to see for himself.
This has been one heck of a Full Moon! Nothing subtle about this one . . . my mind has been in overdrive!!
You aren't kidding neith! This is a lot of input.
Would that have been one of the Buddhist contingent
Meanest Buddhists I've ever run across! maybe it's a new order.
Was that an astrology site?
Yes.
That's very interesting.
So they identify with a role or a group in a limiting way, and fail to generalize the lessons offered by their experiences.
Totally in the dark. The fact that they obsess about it is an ident tification they simply do not recognize. They will not see themselves in it.
read a poem by a guy who was so embittered that he wrote soothingly of the day when cataclysms would come, the hand of the Great Mother, and wash the planet clean of patriarchy.
OMG, kad. That exactly describes it.
And I think it's a little simplistic:-)
I followed a link on Lynn Hayes's site to a blog called Astrotabletalk. He has a post dated Nov 30 called "Are you spiritual?" that takes a look at some of matters being discussed here. He was a Buddhist at one point in too. He's another Aquarius . . . :-) Anyway, here's a link:
http://www.astrotabletalk.blogspot.com/
Jeesiss, man. I'm on a frikkin' roll. No wonder I get beaten up! It CAN be excessive. But not for someone with Jupiter in the 1st!
Neith, my sweet pal. Thank you for the link. I can't help myself, but fake sprituality has gotten to me since I was sucking my thumb and that was a long time ago.
Thank god my mother was an atheist so I didn't get it at home.
Hypocrisy, man.
I don't care what they all do as long as it's honest.
I saw so much of this in india, both with the Indians and the Westerners. No amount of chanting, throwing marigolds around, studying the jargon, sitting in meditation without legs falling asleep, worshipping gurus, or spinning prayer wheels will cover up gratuitous cruelty. Sometimes brutality just can't be helped, and nicey nicey isn't it either. It's something genuine that I can't even put my finger on.
I've met some people on bar stools more spiritual than some of these folks.
Well, that was one example. There are lots of variations. It's too easy to get angrier and angrier, until fantasies of payback are comfort.
The fantasies are fine to some extent, but not to be taken seriously. It's a little more evolved than acting out the destructive feelings on other people.
Some people are too "pure" to see it as a destructive urge that ultimately belongs to them and to no one else. They would steer the hands of a powerful god or goddess to do the dirty deed for them. "It's not me but God that judges you." :-P
Hmm, the siren song of destructive fantasies....It's interesting that siren songs in myth tempted sailors to their deaths, but we also have the loud, wailing sirens on police cars and such that are meant to warn and alarm.
Speaking of gender confusion, there was also the time I was going by the name "Blaise" or some play on that, and a twelve-year-old kid chatted with me a few times and then called me "big sister"! He seemed to think it unusual that I took him seriously and actually conversed at length with him.
fantasies of payback are comfort.
Exactly.
You're right. It's still in the realm of fantasy and we all have these nightmarish images, but how we cling and replay tells me so much.
the siren song of destructive fantasies
Yes. Again, it's natural to have them. The point I always try to make is that injecting them into others' minds repeatedly is beyond the fantasy level.
These shared fantasies about Cheney for example get out of control. So many of these spiritual people wished for the man's death who got on the other side of his gun. This is troublesome.
He seemed to think it unusual that I took him seriously and actually conversed at length with him.
Really? You did? Now that's a different from of fantasy!
My feeling is that group rage is not far from the lynch mob. People simply do not realize what these things can lead to. It's a Dionysus thing, maybe. The Mayans were the worst.
We all have cross gender parts of our personas It's wonderful to find a healthy outlet for them.
LOL! Now, I didn't lead these guys on for any length of time. :-)
The kid proceeded to verbally play act beating his head against the wall, and other charming acts of mortification until I convinced him that I didn't really care all that much about the mistake.
If we could delve into a cross gender personality in cyberspace, just think what we could learn, and even understand about our counter parts.
The religious crowd are by far some of the most radical groups in this world. I once had a few knuckleheads come to my door to hand out pamphlets. It did not take long for me to have them leaving with their heads hung in shame. The first one to speak, tried to hand me the pamphlet and I asked what it was. The babble about the "one true church" started after.
That's where the fun began!! I asked what church was that. Then a round about answer bagan. Then I said that is not what I asked you is it? What church is it? I asked you a direct question and you chose not to give a direct answer. Are you ashamed of the name of your church? What have you done today to advance mankind? Handed out flyers?
While you handed out flyers today, I went fix something for my 80+ year old grandmother. I stopped and let as many people as I could merge into traffic, I stopped by to check on friends to see if they needed anything since they had no car right now. I went back to work a day early and got off this morning when I was supposed to have the day off because my company was in a bind. Now instead of getting some sleep, I am out here telling you that you are a victim of religion that has robbed you because you are talking about it and handing out flyers instead of doing the very things you wish to pass on. Get a grip and know that actions and not words are what makes us better people. With that, I must bid you a good day. May you find the proper path to goodness!
YOU TELL'EM DONNIE!!!!!!
The Bloogerman sayeth!!!!
And Ooh Rah!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, way to go! Ha ha!
Funny how so many different groups believe they have the one true way....and that way is expressed through superficial trappings.
With that, I must bid you a good day. May you find the proper path to goodness!
Love it!
Very very interesting night.
I just flipped on the radio to george Noory, something I rarely do. Guess what he's talking about?
GOD!
Some guy has a book out about how belief is hardwired in the brain and all this "one true way" is just inevitable. It's all in the mind.
The superficial trappings are there I suppose in lieu of anything at all tangible.
One man's superficiality is his true God, perhaps. Just no one else's.
Isn't the physical realm all superficial in a sense?
Maybe it's all in the eye of the beholder?
It's called neurotheology
This guy's field. Which goes with the eye theory.
The question...if we are wired for perception of god, which I know we are, does this thing exist. The guy doesn't think so. Why would a god allow murder over establishing who has the correct view, he asks?
I don't think it matters at all if he exists out there. Perception is enough. Too much, actually.
I was waiting for responses before I gave the ultimate thing that they saw that day!!!!!
I walked out with a freshly opened can of Bud in my hand to do this!! What they saw was a man with a can of beer give them a right proper sermon and I did not need a mount!
I once took on some other Jehovah Witless folks when I was a little further up state and my then wife was baffled! I had contact with them and they actually left to get reenforcements. When they came back, the men they came back with were soon getting a proper verbal lashing and cowered before my wit and sarcasm. The highlight of the whole thing?
When I started to answer their questions before they asked them. Then I chastised them for being so weak in front of their women folk that got them to help. Also when I confronted them on why they came back. Never saw them again after that.
What they saw was a man with a can of beer give them a right proper sermon and I did not need a mount!
Donnie you're precious!
They left for reinforcements! How funny!
I always say they must be slumming when they come around to my neighborhood. A pair of timorous women got into the building once. I always wondered how they managed to find the gumption to get past the, um, racy boutiques.
A pair of timorous women
Heheh.
A pair of leery ladies.
Aha, yes! :-) Leery.
As opposed to leering ones. Either way, they were sure to get the adventure they wanted.
I always say they must be slumming when they come around to my neighborhood.
That bad? housing IS tough in your fair town.
Oh, this is a fairly desirable area. Just on the bohemian side!
The cops come back on weekends with their girlfriends to browse the shops and eat in the cafes and restaurants.
I probably ended up in one of the worse buildings, though. The stairs had gaps where the steps were pulling away from the walls, and the treads from the risers. The treads would sink under weight. People joked that someday someone's going to get killed trying to move furniture in or out.
The building's better now. Of course, this is after I sued the landlord to pay a hospital bill. The rent is higher, and the neighborhood's changed through the recession years -- unique shops that had been there since anyone could remember are being slowly replaced by chain stores. Goodbye italian cafe, hello Dunkin Donuts.
Top of the afternoon to you out there!
the neighborhood's changed through the recession years -- unique shops that had been there since anyone could remember are being slowly replaced by chain stores. Goodbye italian cafe, hello Dunkin Donuts.
This is exacly the lament I get in every conversation I have with my Moon in Capricorn sister who lives on the Upper West Side. She's obsessed with this as she watches the old buildings come down and the temples to consumerism rise. Quite a religion we've got going.
I HATE greasy Donuts!!!!
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