Way up in the blue
It must have been moo...nglow
That led me right to you
Illustration by Loretta Krupinski from Mouse of my Heart
posted by jm at 2:13 AM
Thursday, November 30, 2006
Way up in the blue
It must have been moo...nglow
That led me right to you
Illustration by Loretta Krupinski from Mouse of my Heart
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I am a brilliant creation of the universe formed from the cosmic protoplasm sailing into eternity. I have two hands, two feet, a couple of great ears, and I'm clipping through life at a moderate pace; minding my p*s and q*s, crossing my t*s, dotting every i.
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Hey jm - please follow the link to a site on the dove as a totem . . . and a very good Moon Rising to you!
http://tinyurl.com/yyunrm
The new moon coming up this 4th lands exactly on my nodes. Didn't others of you say you had likewise coming up?
Hi Joanna - my NN is 12Gemini, Donnie's is NN is 13Gemini . . . with just a few years in between.
Well there we go then! We must report on anything that happens, yes? Internally, externally, both, neither.
That's why duality is bogus: this one, that one, both or neither. If one discards a particular "hand of cards," well, then... another hand can be delt. Who or what is doing the dealing I have no idea, but at least at 60, I now know that for almost real. ;O)
Full Moon on the nodes? Gemini/Saggittarius? Communication? Truth? Information? Connections?
I've noticed some extra posts from joanna and donnie.:-)
Going to the site neith. I remember your last bird link and it blew my mind.
Oh, & my nodes land in the 2nd/8th house axis with NN in the 8th. (um, sigh)
Which one is North joannna?
Oh! I just caught it. 60. North in Gem.
The nodes are cracking!
If one discards a particular "hand of cards," well, then... another hand can be delt. Who or what is doing the dealing I have no idea, but at least at 60, I now know that for almost real. ;O)
Big flash for me this morning about this and my next post.
It's really interestig that you brought this up. Duality really hits with the nodes. And I agree. Some astrologers say you do both. Duality. Equality. I don't agree. But more on that later.
I'm feeling really down today, but fortunately, that's better than the past week. Thank goddess I have uranus in close tr to asc/sun/chiron... some levity often comes to the rescue. I say "often"... not always. Not with mercury/mars/juno/jupiter in scorp sq to pluto/saturn in leo.
WhaddaHOOT! jm adds an extra kick to her duality thots with a double post.
Duality really hits with the nodes. And I agree. Some astrologers say you do both. Duality. Equality. I don't agree.
It's my understanding the Nodes are about a journey from the South to the North, as best we can. Michael Lutin has a book coming out on the relationship of the Sun to the Nodes that should be interesting.
You noticed she removed the wrong comment?! :-)
Saaaayy, neith... what might be the URL for your site?
The Gemimi/Sag node in the 2nd/8th could be about traps in thinking patterns that find renewal and eventually a positive turn. The 2nd house can cling to ideas. The 8th can obsess but the North there indicates otherwise eventually, turning pain into knowledge.
The South in Sag often speaks of being force fed ideas in the past that don't gel with the perceptions of the person.
Neith seems to have escaped this, but others I know have been caught in negative religious(or other) ideology and prejudice. Lots of punishment and such.
The North in Gemini seeks to find release from thinking patterns that are stuck and archaic. The renewal is indicated by the 8th house. And this is an overall regeneration for the whole self. Once the mercury/8th house gets going and unlocks the deeper truths it affects circumstances in the life.
The true revelation of how thinking affects everything else.
One main characteristic of Geminini is its pure curiosity and nonjudgemental view. Fact isn't necessarily truth with a bludgeon. Just ideas to be considered. Freedom from someone else's truth with the North in Gem and the ability to communicate it clearly with impact.
Oh no! Which wrong one???
Yea, verily, neith... I've read lossa this & that on the nodes but nothing has yet really hit the spot. What's written seems to come off rather dark-side sagittarianesque spiritually pompous n' vague. I'm not a fan of pompous n' vague tho I do love the sag energy.
The North in Gemini is a master of communication beyond what they even realize.
My friend in Mexico who spoke just a few words of Spanish used to hang out all day in and out... fishing, in the bars.. and talking constanty to these guys that knew no English at all. I was stunned at how he could communicate.
Not with mercury/mars/juno/jupiter in scorp sq to pluto/saturn in leo.
This is a repeat of the Pluto/Mercury of the NN, and the serch for deeper answers. The square to saturn is the block to the real things you are trying to say and the admiration you desire and have coming. It's all being triggered by the Mars in Scorpio now.
Being overlooked can be a problem with the Leo configuration.
Saaaayy, neith... what might be the URL for your site?
jm has me listed on her link sidebar: Neith.net
What's written seems to come off rather dark-side sagittarianesque
Exactly. Coming into the lighter Gemini. Very well put.
You can see that here so clearly. I have a whopping Sag/Gem opposition and I swing both ways. Sometimes hurtful truths, but often whimsy and absurdity.
Sometimes all the agony seems ridiculous to me. Man made. The agony will always be there. One doesn't have to keep poking it.
Hahahaaaa... after a lovely rather formal mature professorial lengthly bit on the nodes, jm blurts out: "Oh no! Which wrong one???" Oh gracious... how I love the wonderful things that come out of our comedic minds as we move from human becoming to human being.
What's written seems to come off rather dark-side sagittarianesque spiritually pompous n' vague. I'm not a fan of pompous n' vague tho I do love the sag energy.
Sexist remark comin' up . . . I have had many wonderful Sag women friends all throughout my life, really great people but the men!! Pompous n' vague, and don't forget vain . . . however, this is just my personal experience of Sag guys. I'm sure there are lots of good ones out there . . . some where . . .
When I gave up yearning after a monastic life and got down to developing serious communication skills, things started to come together for me. Just a thought but my Moon in Libra is closely sextile & trine my Nodes. Perhaps that helps with the emotional side of working with the Nodes.
jm, have you had a chance to visit the dove website? If not, be sure you have your sound turned on . . .
And you inspired me to write a whole post on avoiding the doom & gloom! :-)
You can see the Node right now as the mind goes into overdrive.
Sag thinks it knows everything. Gemini has everything yet to know.
The doom and gloom has served its purpose. And it's all in the mind.
Jupiter has arrived for expansion and learning. Scorpio, good-bye and all the emotional pain.
The optimism of Jupiter comes largely from looking forward to all that will be perceived. The expansion will come for some in getting out of the dark squeezing releasing passageway of Scorpio.
Gotta know when to let go. The lesson we just learned.
Going to the doves now.
i This is a repeat of the Pluto/Mercury of the NN, and the search for deeper answers. The square to saturn is the block to the real things you are trying to say and the admiration you desire and have coming. It's all being triggered by the Mars in Scorpio now.
Hadn't thot about the tr mars... that hits the spot. "Admiration"?!? What for, jm? Only the ego would think that as currency... air pudding & wind sauce. (I wonder if there's a picture or cartoon portraying air pudding/wind sauce as it sure abounds in our culture. One could even say it's the currency of gem/sag.)
that hits the spot. "Admiration"?!? What for
For the joy of it. Positive attention, recognition, and praise are honey in the rock for Saturn in Leo. The ego is a beautiful part of the self that the Saturn in leo is learning to love and express.
I don't know who told you that ego is negative. maybe for them it is.
The ego is represented by the Sun. It's light, warmth, energy, vitality, and the central focus of the system. It's got to be healthy for a good life.
I wonder if there's a picture or cartoon portraying air pudding/wind sauce as it sure abounds in our culture. One could even say it's the currency of gem/sag.)
What you're dealing with here is lack of ego. This is what causes people to go to extremes to prove themselves.
A strong ego is nothing but good. Has no reason to hurt others.
Neith. Wow. The dove. One call. So simple.
You mean I'm a girl?
You mean I'm a girl?
you would know better than i . . . :-)
It was the dove call rather than the content, nice as it was, that made a connection in my head to you...aural person that you are.
I was expecting some overdone nonsense as usual when you guided me to the sound. You are so right and this throws another curve into my day on the heels of the crow calling me this early afternoon.
One sound. That did it.
Neith. A lot of the discussion today (of course triggered by this last Mars sq to Saturn) makes me think we really have progressed like you said. I was half expecting more of the same ego fear and pain with this sq but maybe the genuine effort to have pride in ourselves and each other is bringing results.
I usually work alone on myself, so this is new.
I was half expecting more of the same ego fear and pain with this sq but maybe the genuine effort to have pride in ourselves and each other is bringing results.
It's been a real stunner for me too. Who'da thought?! We are so used to dealing in ego fear & hurt feelings that these moments of genuine appreciation & joy are even more amazing.
The next station coming right up will be exactly on my Saturn. Then it will go direct in April to really get a kick off in Aries.
In April Venus in Gemini will be on your NN. And Neptune will be stationing exactly on your Mercury/Mars.
I'm getting extra pencils!
We are so used to dealing in ego fear & hurt feelings that these moments of genuine appreciation & joy are even more amazing.
It's hideous. Where does it stem from all this fear?
Then again, it makes the moments of joy all that much sweeter.
I have theories about karma, Saturn, and all the fear. When we have time.
In April Venus in Gemini will be on your NN. And Neptune will be stationing exactly on your Mercury/Mars.
Now that could be tricky . . . Neptune is always harder to get an handle on.... :-) You'll have to be my guide as I tip toe thru the metaphorical daisies.
I have theories about karma, Saturn, and all the fear. When we have time.
A worthy topic and one I would be very interested in too.
For now, the Big Guy is in town & I am enjoying his presence so much. You may have noticed I've been around lots more . . . just generally hanging out & having fun.
I certainly know it well. But truthfully, neith, the Nep sq my Merc has never bothered me. I rather like it for its imaginative qualities. And I've never taken reality seriously, so it's been fine. I fall for shit, but get over it.
I think when you get the sq, you'll be amazed and inspired. The confusing part is de rigeur with all your natal Neptune so you already have your coping mechanisms.
I'm going to write a book...possible titles:
-Conquering the Fear of Neptune
-Neptune is your Pal
-Neptune and Nothingness...the Ideal State of Mind
-Living With Neptune and Loving It
-Neptune and Nirvana
Neptune and the Art of Nonsense
For now, the Big Guy is in town & I am enjoying his presence so much. You may have noticed I've been around lots more . . . just generally hanging out & having fun.
YES!!!!!!!
As the Big Gasbag continues and Capricorn season comes. I think these in depth discussion of karma and what not will take hold.
Man I love exchanging ideas.
Things seem to be coming to light on the birds. First the crow and now the dove is starting to come out. Now for that evasive robin! That pic of Tseka with the bird just had me stunned! As I come out of my shell, things may get more clear.
And I've never taken reality seriously, so it's been fine. I fall for shit, but get over it.
ha, ha, ha, ha!!!! Don't we all . . . :-)
Neptune and Nothingness...the Ideal State of Mind
ROFLMAO!!!!! Those titles . . . :-)
That pic of Tseka with the bird just had me stunned! As I come out of my shell, things may get more clear.
I remember the first time I saw it . . . stunned is a very good word!
You know, around here we tend to be the sorts that are gentle from a position of strength . . . that shines from tseka's eyes too. So you can just make yourself to home . . .
Comments on the photo of t. coming up.
around here we tend to be the sorts that are gentle from a position of strength
Good one neith.
Or maybe a therapy group to get over the terror of Neptune.
I've heard more crap about the pain of Neptune than I want. All of the planets really. Jezeus. What's with everybody?
Where is the source of fear? Isn't that an easy one?
Where is the source of fear? Isn't that an easy one?
It's the lack of the tangible. With Saturn, Uranus & Pluto there are more real time events to hang a meaning on to but Neptune is always in the corner of the eye. We who live intimately with him, know where to put the focus of intent.
And now I'm off for home . . . snowy roads here I come!! check back later . . . :-)
Homeward bound!
Donnie said,As I come out of my shell, things may get more clear.
Come on out!
And neith.It's my understanding the Nodes are about a journey from the South to the North, as best we can
This is my view.
A soul can't live in the material without an ego. It's the heart that pumps the life giving blood. Just as life on earth needs the sun.
Everybody has a different relationship with it and lessons to learn.
Saturn in Leo is learning to develop the ego. Let it come out from behind the wall, the shadow.
Donnie, who has Venus and Mercury in Leo has it developed in some ways quite well.
Tseka has the ruler of the ASC in the 5th and she's living her complete life in terms of the ego. Also molding it.
Kadimiros has the NN in Leo. The lucky one who gets to be an glorious egomaniac this time around.
Juju has Sun in leo. Also a lucky one who shines easily and sheds light on others.
Joe and casey have Pluto in the 5th dealing with the bottomless need for ego love with Pluto. Well there IS a bottom.
So it's unique in every case.
My teacher in this lesson had Leo/Venus Sun, Leo rising, and Neptune in leo in the 1st. He was the center of attention his entire life and was adored by all. He entertained and brought joy to others besides being a genius artist. All about ego. I learned from osmosis as my light was eclipsed by Saturn.
With Saturn in Leo now, we are collectively dealing with ego. Bush's failures with Leo rising and Pluto there, and our country's NN in Leo trying to find itself. Ego and pride. A necessary part of life. The more real pride we have, the less these horrors will abound.
What wonderful reading here tonight. A whole post of amazing insight.
Joanna i hope you post more often you bring a lot of distilled wisdom.
i like how it mixes and leavens. Very nice. What is more wonderful than learning new stuff?
i like how it mixes and leavens
And I like that phrase.
The whispering has always enchanted me. And I'm not the only one. It's amazing how these universal themes are passed through all of us. I used to sing this song called Whispering Grass written in 1940 by Fred Fisher. Beautiful melody too, by Doris Fisher. Must have been a husband/wife team.
Why do you whisper green grass
Why tell the trees what ain't so
Whispering grass the trees don't have to know
No, no.
Why tell them all your secrets
Who kissed there long ago
Whispering grass the trees don't need to know.
Don't you tell it to the breeze, 'cause she will tell the birds and bees,
And everyone will know
Because you told the blabbering trees
Yes, you told them once before,
It's no secret anymore.
Why tell them all the old things
There buried under the snow
Whispering grass, don't tell the trees
'Cause the trees don't need to know.
OMG JM that's beautiful.
will you put it in your reportoire?
it tugs at my memory, perhaps i heard it as a child. So many of the songs of that vintage still so well, heard once they stay, why is that i wonder?
"Kadimiros has the NN in Leo. The lucky one who gets to be an glorious egomaniac this time around."
I have only played one! :-)
"If we shadows have offended,
Think but this, and all is mended:
That you have but slumb'red here,
While these visions did appear."
Tseka, just posting this made me want to sing it again. The melody in the bridge is hard for me though, but I can do it. the lyrics really are beautiful.
So many of the songs of that vintage still so well, heard once they stay, why is that i wonder?
They were great songs. The best in our history. lyrics were original and well thought out. Melodies memorable. Just wonderful music.
Our country with its Mars in Gemini has always loved words and this was one of those times when it worked. It will happen again. Even as bad as rap is, it still speaks of our love of language.
I can't wait for music to cycle back around. We have it in our chip.
I have only played one! :-)
Good enough!
If we shadows have offended
Beautiful. Encouraging.
BTW, tseka. Thanks for the whispers. This has inspired me in many ways. It started with the whispering wineglass. It will continue.
The thing is to learn to love the shadows just as much.
You know I've mentioned before how some believe that the South Node holds all the ancient memory of that sign. I came up with a theory about the great communication skills of the NN in Gemini.
Maybe the memory of all foreign languages is held in the SN in Sagittarius, so the Gemini North understands what people are saying, no matter what the language.
That's a very elegant idea.
Hmm, I wonder what might a lunar south node in Aquarius signify in that regard. :-)
Perhaps the SN in Aquarius remembers all the societal governmental structures that ensured cooperation and the vitality of the group. This time he understands how individuality will not harm this cohesiveness, having experienced its successes. So he can stand out without excessive rebelliousness, and without fear of being ostracized. He's belonged enough.
What do you think?
Another possibility is that the SN remembers all scientific intellectual theories so this time he can express nonsense or anything he wants without looking dumb! Everything is brilliant.
LOL! I have those other planets in Aquarius, so it is harder to isolate.
I believe that one should follow one's own path, and then if there happen to be others traveling in a similar direction, then that makes for better companionship. There is no need to impose order; compatible groups will form of their own natural accord, if fitting.
I admit that high technology feels familiar to me. But the technology of today compares poorly to what I expect should be possible, so we are not there yet.
Maybe the future is part of my past.
I admit that high technology feels familiar to me. But the technology of today compares poorly to what I expect should be possible, so we are not there yet.
Maybe the future is part of my past.
Yes. The memory of technology when it really was futuristic.
There is no need to impose order; compatible groups will form of their own natural accord, if fitting.
My view and rather anarchistic. People will argue with me forever on this. That you can't leave law and order to the people. Well how will they ever learn?
It's like the treatment for a sickness. At first it might get worse, the healing comes.
Aquarius knows the need for independence and self government. They go so wrong and then end up in government as it is today. There are tons of Aquarians there doing it all wrong yet I think somewhere inside they know.
Jim Webb is a new Aquarian on the scene and already he is trouble with the establishment.
"People will argue with me forever on this. That you can't leave law and order to the people. Well how will they ever learn?"
Somehow that reminds me of one guy who declared, "Young people must be taught what to think so that they know how to think." LOL! Neither reasoning skills nor intuition need apply.
The poor man had no recognition of essential goodness unless it came with his conservative church's label of approval stuck on it. Unfortunately, his church hadn't much of a clue, either.
Somehow that reminds me of one guy who declared, "Young people must be taught what to think so that they know how to think."
Obviously not a thinker.
I have more confidence in people than most. Left to their own devices they might actually do well. It's a laziness that brings thought and governance from others and it never works. People will develop their systems if they must. I think people would rather cooperate. So I lean towards Libertarian philosophy somewhat, but still I am an anarchist at heart.
It's like a muscle. If self discipline and self government are not exercised, they will weaken.
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