Monday, December 11, 2006

Does Anyone Know where We Are?

I feel like I'm in unknown territory. I have been for some time, really, but this seems like a climax. No leadership and no concrete clue about the future.
Pluto is now crossing the Galactic Center of our Milky Way, a once in a 250 year experience. The exact conjunction is December 29.
The center contains a black hole, known to suck debris from the solar system. Once things get into this hole, they can't get out. I think even Pluto is treading carefully.
I thought maybe out of the darkness of this hole comes a light to humanity in exchange for what it deposits. This could be the reason for the standstill now, this in-between, as people get ready to receive what's coming. Maybe even a slight change in direction is ahead with an altered future, and thus the loss of a compass in the wait for the new map. Sagittarius contains the navigational blueprint in the skies mankind has always referred to.
Adding to the mish-mosh is Saturn in Leo just turned retrograde heading back to the master of uncertainty....Neptune. When this oppositon is exact next February, Mercury will be retrograde in Aquarius with Neptune, Mars will also be in Aquarius, and the Neptunian Pisces Sun will meet the North Node and square Jupiter. I don't think it could get more confusing than this.
I'm somewhat lost at this point
Photo by Michael Nichols. Rainforest in Rwanda

73 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yesterday I noted that Mercury, Mars and Jupiter were all in the same 4th degree of Sagittarius, close to but just beyond the blinding rays of the Sun (as Joe's link the other day showed us photographically). I take that to mean that, if we look very closely and turn off our prejudices as much as possible, we can begin to discern the first glimmers of a new, more positive and indeed healing direction for ourselves and our world. With this intention, we may cast our debris into the hole -- even so, some will be taken, sucked away from us.

11/12/06 6:07 AM  
Blogger Diane L said...

I take that to mean that, if we look very closely and turn off our prejudices as much as possible, we can begin to discern the first glimmers of a new, more positive and indeed healing direction for ourselves and our world. With this intention, we may cast our debris into the hole -- even so, some will be taken, sucked away from us.

Oh very well said -pd-!!! Especially like your thought of turning off our prejudices as much as possible. Sometimes it's very difficult to recognize the darn things. And with Pluto involved with the GC, I'm very sure there will be debris. As painful as internal housecleaning can be, it's always better to start doing our own . . . waiting for Pluto to do it for us is very, very dicey.

11/12/06 9:13 AM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

Sabian symbol #244 (4th degree of Sagittarius):
Watched by happy parents, a child takes his first steps.
Alternative rendering:
A little child is learning to walk; nearby are happy parents wise enough to refuse unnecessary assistance.

No doubt tears soon to follow! :-)

11/12/06 10:29 AM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

Actually, sounds like a good time for vision quests and the like, particularly with all the current Sagittarian emphasis. I read that a literal translation of Hanblecheyapi, the Lakota term for vision quest, is "crying for a vision". (See link for discussion of shared vision and leadership.)

11/12/06 11:21 AM  
Blogger Diane L said...

Here is a link to an article about the New Moon in Sag on the 20th from The Mountain Astrologer. This link shows both the Full Moon in Gemini & the New Moon in Sagittarius.

New Moon in Sag

The reason I found this most interesting was the way the author referenced the Galactic Center and Kad's comment on Vision Quests. Hopefully some of us will be able to slow down enough to take advantage of this important time.

Don't know about you, jm . . . but I'm running around in circles with all the stuff going on! :-)

11/12/06 12:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look at those murky greens. I feel right at home. You mean that's not underwater?

11/12/06 12:12 PM  
Blogger Diane L said...

Here's a little example of the Sag Mars/Mercury/Jupiter conjunction:



Made me think of kids playing in the sandbox . . . "if you can't play together nicely, I'm taking my toys and going home . . "

11/12/06 12:41 PM  
Blogger Diane L said...

OK - that worked but no quite the way I had planned . . . :-)

11/12/06 12:43 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Pd. What a pleasure to find this. The idea of willingly casting off the debris is heartening. That's what Pluto is all about. At least has been for me. I believe healing is always going on. How else could we survive? Someone's always getting well.

Especially like your thought of turning off our prejudices as much as possible. Sometimes it's very difficult to recognize the darn things.

LOL! And the internal housecleaning.

Don't know about you, jm . . . but I'm running around in circles with all the stuff going on! :-)

Lest you forget my Mars/Mercury/Neptune neith. I'm always runnung around in circles!

Casey! LOL! I knew a Pisces would understand.

Now off to the tearful vision quest. Nothing like a megadose of sagittarius.

11/12/06 12:58 PM  
Blogger jm said...

It's truth or consequences time

Well said.

11/12/06 1:00 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Pluto prods us to eliminate manipulation and obsession.

What a relief that would be. Good article, neith. That's a relief too.

11/12/06 1:04 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

"running around in circles with all the stuff going on!"

Good exercise, anyway, haha!

Hey, another Colorado church just lost its founder/pastor. They've really got to come up with a different script.

11/12/06 1:05 PM  
Blogger jm said...

That's hilarious neith.

The holidays are the busiest season at the airport, Betancourt said, and staff didn’t have time to play cultural anthropologists.

Sag?
The travel too. What is it about planes that gets everyone so upset?

Maybe Pluto would like to throw all the religious symbols down the black hole. Maybe next time. In 250 years.

11/12/06 1:10 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

Aw...couldn't they just call them "holiday candelabras"?

11/12/06 1:12 PM  
Blogger jm said...

OMG! Not another pastor! I'm living in a den of iniquity. I don't think they're screened very well.
The hallelujah chorus has got to get some smarts.

11/12/06 1:13 PM  
Blogger jm said...

What would they call the trees?

11/12/06 1:14 PM  
Blogger Diane L said...

Good exercise, anyway, haha!

That & running up & down the stairs . . . :-) When you have to go to the office to get some downtime, home is chaos!

Hey, jm, think tseka's chart & the GC/New Moon . . . she is one of the more "still within" people I know.

11/12/06 1:15 PM  
Blogger jm said...

BTW, sometimes I think it's truth AND consequences time.:-)

11/12/06 1:16 PM  
Blogger Diane L said...

BTW, sometimes I think it's truth AND consequences time.:-)

ha, ha, ha, ha!!! We're due!

11/12/06 1:18 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

"What would they call the trees?"

I guess "Peace on Earth trees" won't fly...."good will trees"..."seasonal trees"...mrrmhh....

11/12/06 1:20 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Hey, jm, think tseka's chart & the GC/New Moon . . . she is one of the more "still within" people I know.

Absolutely. A clue to what this is about. The infinite inner dimension so often overlooked.
So interesting as the outer drama seems to have diminished . A year ago a terrorist attack would have been predicted with the transit:-)

I still say the war's been won. But who knows? Maybe some brand new fear is coming out of the hole!

11/12/06 1:21 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Trees don't normally grow in airports.

won't fly
Ha ha!

11/12/06 1:24 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

;-) Heehee

11/12/06 1:26 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I think seasonal is good. Seasonal happy bushes, maybe.

11/12/06 1:26 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

And maybe some "circle of life wreaths". LOL!

11/12/06 1:27 PM  
Blogger jm said...

That's beautiful actually.

The red again. Life and vitality.

11/12/06 1:30 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

"I don't think they're screened very well."

Well, these must be guys with good performance skills.

11/12/06 1:31 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Isn't it amazing though? This transit exactly with the holidays? And the exact point just before the new year.

11/12/06 1:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I take that to mean that, if we look very closely ...
(Quoting myself now)
Now that the work day is nearly done, and I browse the wonderful and playful responses, it occurs to me -- does the Sag mind look "closely"? Duh, no -- it takes in the big picture. This is what my ersatz Sag self (9th house moonman) has been stretching toward these many years.
"Vision quest" seems particularly apropos.
I'm just so struck -- both within and without -- by the recent shift from Scorpio to Sag: from the underworld to the stars.

11/12/06 1:32 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

"Circle of life" fits the red and green colors and the evergreen symbolism nicely, I think.

11/12/06 1:33 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Well, these must be guys with good performance skills.

HA HA! Not quite good enough!

11/12/06 1:34 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

I said: "Well, these must be guys with good performance skills."

And I can't help but think someone should introduce them.

11/12/06 1:34 PM  
Blogger jm said...

"Circle of life" fits the red and green colors and the evergreen symbolism nicely, I think.

I think so. The pine cones and seed also. I wonder if beyond all the ritual some of this gets through in celebration. Too much food though. That interferes with spiritual experience I think.

The red against the green is particularly strong.

11/12/06 1:37 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

"Not quite good enough!"

Yeah...angry ex-lovers, like payback, are a....

11/12/06 1:38 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Yeah...angry ex-lovers

Love?

My lovers have never waited until the "ex" part.:-)

11/12/06 1:44 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

Red and green are what artists call a complementary color pair. They're on opposite sides of the color wheel, like Aries (Mars) and Libra (Venus).

Complementary colors tend to vibrate in perception. Prolonged viewing uses up the chemicals for perceiving the color faster than they are refreshed, and then we start seeing the shimmering afterimage superimposed on the visual field. The afterimage is always the complementary color. So red next to green makes the green stronger and more vibrant than usual, and vice versa. Very intense.

11/12/06 1:45 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Great application to the opposition in astrology. Most lunations do this.

Lots of this color sceme in Christmas. The red must be the antidote to the dark.

11/12/06 1:50 PM  
Blogger jm said...

It was wonderful talking about the red crown and the "opener of the sun's path". I feel like we're doing it with our proper guidance.

The red crown associated with the sun. Maybe this has something to do with the red at Christmas and the USA tie-in with Egyptian mythology.

11/12/06 2:03 PM  
Blogger Diane L said...

I just read Lisa Dale Miller's New Moon in Sag. Hits many of the points brought up in discussion around here:

New Moon in Sagittarius

Now is the season to dump the dogma . . . :-) Isn't some little quip about dogma?! Eludes me at the moment.

11/12/06 2:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"My karma ran over your dogma!"

11/12/06 3:11 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I bet there a lot of quips about dogma. This is some full Moon. These moments are so fleeting. This is one way to catch them for a minute and really get something from the experience.

11/12/06 3:14 PM  
Blogger jm said...

HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!

Did you make that up joe!!

Fantastic!!!

11/12/06 3:14 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I do declare. You've been in a right good state of mind lately, joe. Freed up and loose.

You know all this Sagittarius stuff is right on your own Mercury and Neptune in sagittarius. Proof positive of the positive.

11/12/06 3:16 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Pluto and the Galactic center police... dogma catcher.

11/12/06 3:20 PM  
Blogger jm said...

That elf kadimiros took off. I bet he could add a few!

11/12/06 3:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL Sorry, not my own invention. But the cosmic "dogma-catcher" is priceless! :oD

11/12/06 3:28 PM  
Blogger jm said...

My woman!! Lisa Dale.

Look at what you hate outside of yourself, and then look within to find where it lives within you. That is your shadow, the projection onto external reality of the darkness that lives within you. Remind yourself that you have the power to find your own truth, by looking inward with a truthful eye. Find out what house Sagittarius rules in your own natal chart and you will know what part of your beliefs need to be overhauled on this New Moon.

Unfair! I'm getting a sign and launching a protest. How come she can say it and not get creamed?

This means turning off your TV (now that's daring and bold!) and tuning into the broadcast channel of existence.

Huuumphhh!

Meaning doesn't live somewhere far away. It is not in heaven, it is not in the words of some channeler, it is not in your guru, it is not in your church, it is not in your school, it is not in your therapist, it is not in your psychic, tarot card reader or astrologer, it is not in your government, it is not in your guides, angels, or other disembodied entities you have chosen to give away your power

I've never seen her like this. Sagittarius, man.

11/12/06 3:28 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I think this is exactly right. Forget about the government and all fake powers for one minute and try to perceive the real power. Then in Capricorn, back to the mundane oppression, the favorite pastime.

11/12/06 3:32 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I did notice the fear around the almighty Smear Machine expressed today. As if it is Lord and Master. Well the people getting smeared are....well.. and it's not the machine, it's the gullibility of the people and the love of pop iconism. I wonder if this transit will affect this trend. We'll see when Pluto is in Capricorn next election cycle.

11/12/06 3:35 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Good article posted by kad on vision quests.

In order to get to the heart, one must purify all other influences from their mind so that the true vision may be observed. This action is not unlike the Lakota sweatlodge purification ritual.

I think that's exactly what just happened with the Scorpio transits.

And what better time to look into the heart and sun than the solstice and birth of the new sun.

I'd better be careful. I'm starting to sound like one of those Colorado evangelists!

11/12/06 3:48 PM  
Blogger jm said...

It's a dogma eat dogma world out there.

11/12/06 3:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And we should let sleeping dogmas lie. They lie, anyway, right?

11/12/06 6:56 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

Well...we can have fun with natural ways to relate red and green.

Green is receptive to red. Green is a traditional color of Venus, and red is a color of Mars and also the Sun.

The photosynthetic green of chlorophyll masks all the warm colors of autumn, from yellow through orange and deepening into red. The warmer colors deepen and darken green, and give it tone. The function of chlorophyll itself is to absorb and aid in converting sunlight into forms of energy usable by cellular life. We perceive the abundant green in nature because chlorophyll does not absorb green spectra well -- it is reflected to our eyes and filters through leafy canopies as a green cast of light.

"Chlorophyll is a chlorin pigment, which is structurally similar to and produced through the same metabolic pathway as other porphyrin pigments such as heme." The hemoglobin of blood contains heme.

For visual design, red is one of those colors for which a little bit goes a long way and is more effective than large doses. It is most vivid against a lot of green.

The solar figure is long-lasting, yet hints at self-sacrifice (it offers warmth because it gives away its own energy). Red can be divine love, courage, self-sacrifice, martyrdom. The red has to get out one way or another.

In contemporary folklore, little green men come from Mars.

11/12/06 7:36 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

Speaking of elfs/elves, the red elf, Santa, was depicted in green when he was St. Nicholas. Erik don Vaniken types will be sure to recognize that Santa and his flying sleigh are really a distorted cultural memory of UFO technology from the red planet.

11/12/06 7:55 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

"Meaning doesn't live somewhere far away."

Excellent. :-)

11/12/06 7:58 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

"Any stigma will serve to beat a dogma."

11/12/06 8:08 PM  
Blogger jm said...

And we should let sleeping dogmas lie. They lie, anyway, right?

HA HA! Tis the season!

11/12/06 8:16 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The ones I don't like are the sheepdogmas.

11/12/06 8:29 PM  
Blogger jm said...

We perceive the abundant green in nature because chlorophyll does not absorb green spectra well -- it is reflected to our eyes and filters through leafy canopies as a green cast of light.

Interesting. A reason for this. Something for us in the animal kingdom.

Chlorophyll is a chlorin pigment, which is structurally similar to and produced through the same metabolic pathway as other porphyrin pigments such as heme." The hemoglobin of blood contains heme.

Very interesting. I wonder why the color.

Red is so attention getting. It represents many different things. This is what interests me. How different cultures perceive it in their own unique ways. Red is used often in Chinese culture. Good luck I think it symbolizes. I don't see how any red could be divorced from the association with blood and the carrier of breath/oxygen.
Red is often on flags so it must mean patriotism. Maybe part of the courage/self-sacrifice.
To me, red is excitement and joy. Stimulation, arousal. It raises blood pressure, I believe.

In contemporary folklore, little green men come from Mars.

But what about the Purple People Eater??

11/12/06 8:31 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

I always thought he came from Jupiter...because he wanted to be an entertainer and purple is a color of Jupiter.

11/12/06 8:44 PM  
Blogger jm said...

That's it! No wonder I love him so much. I never REALLY believed he ate people. Just a myth.

But then is HE purple or the people he eats purple? One of those Jupiterian questions.

11/12/06 8:49 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

I always thought it was both...but I could be wrong! In which case, someone's in trouble!

11/12/06 8:50 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Never thought of both.

I better hide all the purple clothes in my wardrobe I dyed once in a Uranian fit of madness. Almost everything.

He could be from Neptune. all the colors are there.

11/12/06 8:56 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

Well, the Cyclops, like the Titans, were the children of Uranus...but he was mean to them! :-)

The Cyclops sided with Jupiter in the war against the Titans. They, the children of Uranus, made lightning bolts for Jupiter to wield against his foes. So they must be technologists of some kind.

They retired to Sicily, where they assisted "the god Ephaestus to do metal work and make arms for warriors" and, most importantly, tended sheep.

11/12/06 9:20 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

Maybe purple reminds him too much of his daddy Uranus. Hmmm....

11/12/06 9:36 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I love the Cyclops! Shepherds in Sicily. Nice. They were kind of timid from the start.

Uranus is not a popular guy. So interesting. And not much was said about the supposed father of the earth. Odd. The astrology around him must have been entirely invented. Very different image. A zany clown although hideously awful sometimes. As the expert star readers say, "upsetting".

Jupiter called a meeting with his children and began to ask them if they have any idea on how to invent the world. They gave their father many opinions on what the world should consist of, but very few ideas if any indeed.
Mars would put a dose of nothing over another and another over the last one and they would have a world made of nothing with no problems....


That Mars! That does sort of fit my Aries Rising.

BTW, the music accompanying that page is hilarious! Adorable.

11/12/06 9:37 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Maybe purple reminds him too much of his daddy Uranus. Hmmm....

More reason I like him. With a daddy like Uranus you gotta sympathize.

Or maybe his own purple coloring is a way to get Jupiter's fearlessness in dealing with the tyrant.

11/12/06 9:40 PM  
Blogger jm said...

That's a great site on Sicily. How'd you find it?

11/12/06 9:41 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I can't quit that Sicilian music. It is so funny. This reminds me of your Moon/Jup in Aquarius. My Aquarian friends are usually very very funny. A lot of professional comedians of that sign. Again so different from the mythology of Uranus.

But then, a lot of politicians are Aquarians too. Maybe Uranus does fit.

11/12/06 9:46 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

Perfect music for a wacky page!

11/12/06 9:47 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

"That's a great site on Sicily. How'd you find it?"

Oh, I simply decided that the cyclops had to have something to do with Jupiter, so I typed "cyclops jupiter" into the search engine (to find out what the connection was) and it was on the list of results.

11/12/06 9:52 PM  
Blogger kadimiros said...

It's funny, too, the story of Jupiter being pulled every which way by his kids to create the world. Expansion? Heh.

Kinda like the modern physics idea about expansion of space-time resulting in matter and the material universe.

11/12/06 9:54 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Jupiter being pulled every which way by his kids to create the world. Expansion? Heh.

Yes. A little Pluto in sagittarius right now dragging the expansion down in the material and expanding in the space-time or immaterial.:-)

Interesting thought. How to expand.

11/12/06 10:06 PM  

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