Sunday, March 04, 2007

South Node in Cancer or the Fourth House

The South Node in Cancer is a clinging to family and emotional security that has now become an undertow, making it difficult to achieve the professional goals desired. Intimacy in relationships that once served them well, has turned into a tangled web of personal problems that drain these people, leaving them frustrated in their desire to climb the ladder of worldly achievement. Dependency and fear of detached professionalism undermine the rise.
The unhappy home. Childhood difficulties are common with this node, although some don't remember and insist that the home was a good one. Even if there was no overt dysfunction, there is still a sense that fulfillment was lacking, and hard as they might try by staying around the family later in life, it never comes. Very often the unhappiness is vague, but in many cases, the past was a troubled one, and still they cling and hope to resolve the issues. An impossibility. Denial is common as they find reason to stay dependent on the family in adulthood. If not the original family, then a re-creation.
The re-creation of family relationships. The Cancer SNs have a tendency to replay the family dynamics that disappointed them early on. They often get involved with needy people, then wonder why their efforts to help them fail. Likewise, the comfort and safety they long to dissolve into with others often eludes them. They have a fear of aloofness and often when the moat of professional distance starts developing, they swim across to attach umbilically and ensure their continuing security. So they think. They also sometimes attach to unsatisfactory groups as a replay of the family unit.
Moodiness and childish overreaction. SN Cancers sometimes let their emotions and insecurities dominate to a detrimental degree. Easily overwhelmed when they lose control, they overreact then dislike themselves for their immature behavior. They often brood and can easily feel self-pity. When insecure, they run to others for comfort and relief, then feel inadequate for being needy. Oversensitivity to others' moods can also also affect them because of their lack of distance and excess concern about their dependents' state of mind. Sometimes the need for intimacy presses when others don't want it, and the SN Cancer feels rejected and wounded

Sorrow around the mother and/or family. Here again, often the SN Cancer will deny completely that there was a problem with the mother. Some, on the other hand, are acutely aware of her pain, and as much as they try to soothe her, she is inconsolable. I think they feel inadequate when this happens and frightened when she she's not strong, powerful, and protective. Frequently the adult SN Cancer replays the parent-child relationship, often playing the mother role to someone else, resulting in a feeling of victimization.
Personal vs professional. One of the hardest habits to break is the one that injects intimacy in what are supposed to be professional relationships. Sometimes too many personal details are revealed and the desire to be close and comforted interferes with the pure business at hand. They feel lost when the connection isn't there, not realizing their natural abilities to form productive adult relationships, once they get past the initial fear. What they fail to see is that the personal connection will automatically be there to the right degree if they don't force it or focus on it too much. If not reined in, it can be difficult to extricate themselves from the web of interpersonal hurts in the workplace. The web that is always there, but not for them this time around.

Shying away from a cruel world. Another hard fear to leave behind. The urge for the SNs in Cancer to stay safe and protected from what they perceive as a hostile world filled with hurt, not knowing, of course, their innate skills at controlling and surmounting difficulties when maturity is maintained. The joy of discovering their capabilities is worth it all.

Support of others. In some cases, The ancient Cancer SN knowledge of nurturing growth will drive them to put everything into helping others achieve their goals to the neglect of their own. Perhaps this is avoidance and fear of facing the hard climb in the world, but the feeling of waiting for their turns can be frustrating and disheartening.

Leaving home and childhood. In every way, SN Cancers know they must do this. When they start to achieve and move ahead, the call home comes, trouble in the family, "we need you", and on it goes. This inner call undermines advancement repeatedly, as the trap door is waiting upon return. Sometimes the SNs get far up the ladder and fall all the way back down, having to start again. This is not to say that they literally leave the family, but the dependent child is meant to be transformed into the capable adult. Mature people in control of their own emotions, and able to take charge of situations in a completely effective way.
Those with the SN in Cancer are taking their age old knowledge of feeling and familial connection to the larger world, where they can influence society with their emotional experience and human understanding. Next, the node to success....North in Capricorn.
Top illustration: Don Wood. Photograph: Italian actress playing Medea. Bottom: Emma Chichester Clark


Anonymous Joe said...

*grin* Bingo.

1/3/07 4:37 AM  
Anonymous juju said...

Okay, My boyfriend has True Node in Capricorn in 3rd house. So is his south node in Cancer? Or do I have this backwards?

signed, perpetual dunce

And jm, no radio, no matter how cool, is worth getting a job for.

1/3/07 10:12 AM  
Anonymous Joe said...

juju, the answer is yes. I am a SN Cancer. That's why I said "bingo." :o)

jm, you'll be interested to know that I'm seeing signs of a thaw in my NN Cancer dad. He's becoming more demonstrative and wanting to forge better relationships with his siblings. :o)

1/3/07 10:19 AM  
Anonymous Joe said...

He also wants to travel more, which is odd b/c I thought Cancer is the homebody.

1/3/07 1:37 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Everybody's gotta get out of the house sometime..:-) Depends on transits, other planets, and variables.

I'm a Cancer but I've traveled all over the world. Homebody means base of operations. My father had a Moon in Cancer and he traveled all the time. NN in Sagittarius. It's always a magnificent blend.

It's interesting that he wants to do this now and it's a change. Signifies an inner change and maybe why he's communicating. Traveling out of himself.

The Saturn in Cancer your father has is the culprit and his family is the main issue of his life. Good news.

1/3/07 1:56 PM  
Blogger jm said...

As I said before, the SN in Cancer has all the family knowledge, so your father has picked this up over the years subconsciously. The exchange. He has Capricorn, which you need. He can go back in while you're leaving (in whatever way) to go out and up. Good arrangement.

1/3/07 2:10 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Juju, that node is interesting. It can be a desire to break with the ethnic origins, and family belief systems, philosphies, prejudices, etc. Is there a conflict with him being in a foreign country?

The family draw can be strong, but the Capricorn goodies are found away from them, developing his own ideas and opinions.

You have this too, and what's interesting is the possibility of sorting it out with him with all the communication energy in your charts and his Sagittarius wisdom and perspective. Maybe he needs to say more. You seem to value his opinions, something he needs.

1/3/07 2:18 PM  
Blogger jm said...

And jm, no radio, no matter how cool, is worth getting a job for.

I'm liking you more and more.

1/3/07 2:20 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Another thing that can happen with NN in Capricorn in the 3rd is that early on, teachers might have recognized his abilities. Then there is the tug of war with family, possibly church elders, and other pundits who impose their views mercilessly.
The SN 9th is coming down from making a big deal about ideas to a smaller application and an enjoyment of conversation for its own sake, talking about everything and nothing.

I noticed when we met how much he wanted to articulate, but was mostly quiet, letting you lead. The language situation is interesting. It can work both ways. As an impediment or an asset, since the emotional expression of German is so different. SN in Cancer 9th has an interest in expressing feelings adequately. Getting them through verbally.

A filmaker I heard an interview with said some interesting things about this. He made a film about the Blues, and said that Germans love the Blues because they have no way of expressing this in their language.

1/3/07 2:33 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I'm fascinated by the way language reveals the personality of the society.
The 3rd/9th is about language in one way or another.

The Romance languages, for example, and their gender identification, and poetic, rhythmical movement.
English is an odd mix.

I have a 3rd/9th setup in my chart and my mother was foreign as you know. She spoke her unique version of English. For baseball loving father talked about the World Series. She called it the "World Serious." We always understood her, though..:-) And got a lot of laughs.

My father was born here and talked Americanese, which I do mostly, but I also think my European mother influenced my self expression.

The search for language that adequately expresses our inner worlds is always interesting, and a journey in itself for the 3rd/9th person. A sort of trip back to the self through language.

1/3/07 3:08 PM  
Anonymous juju said...

Wow, thanks for all this info. P. does talk a lot to me, very fluently. His biggest issue seems to be with all forms of authority. I didn't immediately recognize the SN things you talked of, but I need to think them through now. Language is definitely an issue.

Funny what you said about the blues and Germans. My son, when he was very young, maybe five or six, said I embarrassed him, because I was too "slaphappy." I thought this was very funny. I decided to look it up on the web, and for some reason this lead to a German dictionary. So, out of curiosity, I tried to find an equivalent in German (long before I met P.) and of course there is none. Drunk, I think was the closest they could come. And it is hard to think of too many slaphappy Germans.

1/3/07 4:18 PM  
Blogger jm said...


I think there have been many German philosophers and rational thinkers. They seem to like order, speaking of slaphappy. Their fun is serious. German cinema is fascinating and is a good look at their character.

I think he might be seeking a departure from his past cultural roots, with the SN in Cancer in the 9th.

1/3/07 4:35 PM  
Blogger jm said...

One thing some Sagittarians love is to assimilate into foreign cultures.
One friend of mine has Saturn in Sag and SN in the 4th, a Brazilian. She gave up her citizenship, and she speaks the language amazingly well. It seems to me that she is now an American. It's one thing to emigrate by force, and quite another, by choice.

1/3/07 4:39 PM  
Anonymous Juju said...

Your Skip James comment now has me listening to all these old acoustic bluesmen. Blind Boy Fuller, tommy Johnson, Charlie Patton, and of course the guy with the best name, Blind Lemon Jefferson. And a bunch more. It feels kind of addictive.

1/3/07 8:07 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Lightnin' Hopkins is one of the best. Otis Spann and Brownie McGee, too.

My favorite is Sonny Boy Williamson. A harmonica player and singer. The deepest and sexiest I know of. I even relented on my vocal preference....his is not so good. But his feel is as good as it gets.

1/3/07 9:40 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The Blues as a music genre is very interesting and I think it fits this Neptunian time right now, so it makes sense that you're listening.

The Blues go nowhere. repetition. All the players repeat the same theme. It climbs to the dominant 7th chord, one of the most loved by humans and then comes back to start. 12 bars, always the same.

This is one of its joys. The acceptance of life and the wisdom to know it just is what it is, and probably won't be much more than it is right now. So they make the most of it as they go around and around, in the dance and feeling of home of the Blues. Very soothing.

1/3/07 9:54 PM  
Blogger jm said...

One interesting note. One of the reasons for this was the lack of opportunity for them. But once they traveled to Chicago and got successful and rich, the end came.

Success is nothing different from where we are at any point. It's just a variation. Maybe slightly worse because of the disappointment. The Blues was a celebration of life just as is.

1/3/07 9:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Just wanted to say that I'll be back to comment, and say hello. :)

2/3/07 12:42 AM  
Blogger jm said...


What a surprise and great pleasure! Please do come back and comment.

I was offline, just came back on, and there you were. I love this telepathic thingy.

2/3/07 12:49 AM  
Blogger Neith said...

Now that I'm recovering from feeling stomped on by the Moon in Leo cranking up the Saturn/Neptune effect . . . I want to tell you, jm, how deeply impressed I am by your knowledge of the Nodes and Astrology. Reading these posts you're doing on the Nodes has been an eyeopener. Have you considered collating & publishing these online? I know I would be delighted to pay for that!! Good reference material is what NN Gemini's live for . . :-)

2/3/07 10:16 AM  
Blogger jm said...

Have you considered collating & publishing these online?

Can't think clearly yet. I'm waiting till Neptune passes..:-)

3/3/07 12:09 AM  

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