Monday, March 05, 2007

North Node in Capricorn or the 10th House

The North Node in Capricorn means to head the organization, whether it be the body, the university, the corral, the hardware store, the city, or the solar system. Smooth running operations that ensure the well-being of society are their interests, as they perfect their skills in management and embrace responsibility fully, taking charge, and seeing that things get done right.
Respect. NN Capricorns value dignity, maturity, self discipline, and the enjoyment that comes from a job well done. They want to be useful and will work long and hard to perfect the skills of their trades. When advancing steadily, these people gain self respect, and in turn, the admiration of others.
Restraint and decorum. In the SN, the habit of excessive emotionalism dominates, but in the North lies cool reserve in the face of difficulties, even when sympathy is there, and an understanding of others' pain. They know that the best solution requires this self containment. It's when they function at their best.

Cooperation with authority. In the beginning these nodeholders are often well-liked by those in authoritative positions, sometimes finding mentors who see their potential and help them advance. Some, however, remain stuck in the SN Cancer child-parent relationship and can carry resentment, but deep down they know they could very well be in that position later on, and they want to learn as much as possible to prepare. They study the ones they like, and frequently follow their examples. They are sometimes singled out by the most discerning and pointed in the right directions.
Emotional distance and self control. The habit of closeness at all costs is hard to leave in Cancer, being so instinctive, but the benefits of adult relationships are without an end. Instead of the childlike dependency, NN Capricorns are sometimes called upon to take the role of boss. This means that a superior position must sometimes be maintained, and as sensitive as they are to others, feelings can be hurt, a hard thing to learn and accept. Staying above and outside the cliques and other groups is another aim. At first the fear of isolation and abandonment can be strong, but others will be there for them in a new way when they cross this bridge, and the consolidation of group talents for the greater good comes under their guidance. A new kind of protection is growing.
Setting goals and responsibility. This is one of the primary activities of the NN Capricorns. As they pursue their aims, they often find themselves responsible for organizations and other people. They are learning to make rules and ensure their enforcement. Punishment and reward is a constant area of testing in these relationships as maintaining law and order becomes their job. Again the detached emotion of the boss is required to it well, while justice and ethics prevail.


The climb to the top. Capricorn is known for the slow, steady, step-by-step climb to the top. No one can do it better than the NN in Capricorn. They are made for success, and know exactly how to go about it, if they can leave the pull back home to the safety and security that no longer work. I think one of the reasons for the patience is because they plan to stay on top when they get there, so they know to have all their skills developed. Success is waiting for them and wants their arrival.
Water to earth. NN capricorns are coming from the merging action of water in Cancer, to the construction of boundaries and self containment in Earth. They no longer have to flow with complete abandon into the protective embrace of others. They now can do the protecting themselves from a new and separate standpoint. Preservation of form is another one of their aims.
Changing role in the family. If NN Capricorns stay with their families they can eventually take charge and leave the hurt child behind. They are experts at arranging the details of family rituals, and can arbitrate within the complicated web of intense feelings. The distance they develop is their reward as the position of responsibility becomes admired and appreciated.

Expertise, recognition, reward, and prestige. No ones earns and deserves praise more than NN Capricorns, when at their best. Their skills can be unmatched and their pride in their performances, a source of great pleasure. Others recognize this too, as they are handed their accolades on the way to the top, and respect is theirs to keep. In some cases, they travel from a humble background to an elevated class, enjoying the milieu immensely. If they happen to end up among the powerful, they can handle it perfectly.
Capricorn NNs are taking their ancient knowledge of human behavior and emotional expression to society, in whatever form they desire, to administer and control. Bringing with them the exceptional understanding they have mastered, caring about others deeply, as they maintain a perfect organization of their needs, their friends', their families', and those of society.

Top: Jean Cassels. Second: David Bierdrzycki. Photo: Grand Staircase of the Paris Opera. Bottom: Carey Armstrong Ellis.

34 Comments:

Blogger Neith said...

With Capricorn/Cancer intercepted in my chart, I've not studied those signs as much as some others and your posts on the Nodes for them have been wonderful. Excellent insights into why Caps do what they do!

My older sister, Scorp Sun, has her Moon in Cancer conjunct her NN in Cancer. She has been grounding the whole family thru our mom's difficulties. heh . . . just realized our father's Sun in Cancer is conjunct her NN. Sometime I really need to print charts for the whole family . . . :-)

Love that picture of the goat with the pen . . . :-)

5/3/07 1:40 PM  
Blogger jm said...

My sister has the intercept too, and a Moon in Capricorn. She does the family responsibility part, but a lot of emotional turmoil is unexpressed.

5/3/07 2:18 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The thing to keep in mind about he SN in Capricorn, is that often they take formal responsibility for the family with inner conflict. You'll see this when we get to those.

They are experts, but deep down, would rather have someone else do it, while they cry or do whatever. Get under the comforter and form a ball.

5/3/07 2:24 PM  
Blogger Neith said...

They are experts, but deep down, would rather have someone else do it, while they cry or do whatever. Get under the comforter and form a ball.

Ha, Ha, Ha!!! Well, she does tend to remind the rest of us how much she does . . . though it's been up to my other siblings & I to make sure she gets paid for the time she puts in. hmmmmmm

5/3/07 2:47 PM  
Blogger jm said...

WOW! Fascinating!

It's just good to be hip to it all, and knowledge of the nodes will do that. Forewarned. Eventually, guilt will probably be administered by this SN Cap, when things close in.
Interesting to watch as well...the parents usually know the truth and you can read the signs. I did the least in practical terms but was loved the most. My siblings both have Cap in their charts, but I was the caring one in the emotional ways. I dropped everything in my life to care for my father, but the Caps had to many job obligations and what-not. No deep desire, really, to do this. More guilt now as a result.

5/3/07 2:59 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Also interesting to note as an astrologer as things unfold, and the truth emerges more and more... how strong the pull of the South is. Paid? Family?

Even with the Cancer Moon conjunct the node with your father's Sun, it's amazing what the South will do. Usually there's a vacillation, but the familiarity and safety of the South bevavior so often prevail.
I've always been amazed by this. Also how amazingly hard it is for me to get to my North even with my knowledge.

It would be good to toss around ideas about habit-breaking.

5/3/07 3:03 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Another interesting thing to watch are the rituals around family tribulations. Caps are sticklers for doing things by tradition and doing them right. Others, like me, deal with them uniquely. I don't attend deaths and funerals. I do something while the're still alive, and the rituals interfere with my processing. At first my Moon in Cap sis chewed me out, but eventually came around to an understanding.
She called me in an angry state of mind, and I sang her the old standard, sweetly and on key, Call Me Irresponsible.
Good tune. And she does have a redeeming sense of humor.

5/3/07 3:11 PM  
Blogger Neith said...

Even with the Cancer Moon conjunct the node with your father's Sun, it's amazing what the South will do. Usually there's a vacillation, but the familiarity and safety of the South behvavior so often prevail.
I've always been amazed by this. Also how amazingly hard it is for me to get to my North even with my knowledge.


The South Node "comfort" zone is deeply addictive. Sometimes I think those who do make the most progress towards their NN usually have pretty potent help . . . like a major outer planet either sitting one it, or transiting over it. It goes back to something else I've observed over the years - how people will stay in what are really awful relationships just because that's what familiar.

oh yes, the guilt tripping . . . how could I forget that!!! Nobody does "guilt" like family . . . :-)

5/3/07 3:12 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The South Node "comfort" zone is deeply addictive

This is very very true. And it's hard to get to since no external substance is involved, and even taking away the offending relationship won't work.

One thing to remember with a NN in the 7th is that these relationships might not be as bad as you perceive. You are still in the learning stages of what a good one is all about, so others' are great to study, but with an open mind, and as little judgement as possible.
The bad relationships sometimes are the best medicine, even though it takes time to see the effect. And it sometimes takes a lifetime of them to get there. You can't see into another's psyche, except with a chart!

5/3/07 3:19 PM  
Blogger Neith said...

Another interesting thing to watch are the rituals around family tribulations. Caps are sticklers for doing things by tradition and doing them right. Others, like me, deal with them uniquely. I don't attend deaths and funerals. I do something while the're still alive, and the rituals interfere with my processing.

I'm with you on this . . . and have gotten flack about it too. My younger sister has Moon in Cap . . . and boy, has she improved with age!!! Love that facet of Capricorns. But when we were young she thought I was a disgrace to the family & had no moral values at all. Must have been a SN Cap type that came up with the whole "Family Values" hooey. :-)

5/3/07 3:20 PM  
Blogger jm said...

HA HA HA HA!!!

My younger sister has Moon in Cap . . . and boy, has she improved with age!!! Love that facet of Capricorns. But when we were young she thought I was a disgrace to the family & had no moral values at all.

All signs swing both ways!

The invalidation of the Capricorn can be awful. The seal of disapproval that really cuts through.

5/3/07 3:24 PM  
Blogger jm said...

On the other hand, some of their observations can be infinitely helpful. It depends on where one is in her own development. What we are seeking. If we get the criticism, we're asking for it.

5/3/07 3:26 PM  
Blogger Neith said...

My sister with the Cap Moon is a Sag w/Aries NN. Our mother & she have opposite Nodes, my brother & my dad have opposite Nodes (Scorp/Taurus). My older sis & I were much "wilder" when we were in our twenties, though we've both settled down considerably. But both my younger sibs have always been on the conservative side . . . waaaay on the conservative side. We all get along for the most part. Just the usual family "stuff". Families provide us with the most intense experiences that I can think of.

BTW, my Sag sister started traveling with one or the other of her children during the last 10 years. I've never met a Sag who didn't love to travel in one way or another. She has a 1Sag Sun so has been through the Pluto wringer . . .

5/3/07 3:36 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Families provide us with the most intense experiences that I can think of.

It does seem that way. I wonder if it's universal.

I've never met a Sag who didn't love to travel in one way or another. She has a 1Sag Sun so has been through the Pluto wringer . . .

The travel can be in any form at all. What Sadges love is to change the dimension they're in, so even a trip to the Asian section of town can do it. They want out of the boundaries.

I'm really interested, neith, in how your sister has changed as a result of the Pluto.

This is interesting. My Cap Moon sis also has my reverse nodes, exactly, and Sagittarius rising, Venus/Saturn in Sag.

Does your SN Libra sister have good relationships?

I see so much of this family node pattern, it's easy to draw conclusions.

5/3/07 3:45 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Maybe all the contacts with our South Nodes in the families create this emotional intensity and aversion. Yet the North Node wants to stay to get ITS lessons. The push-pull.

5/3/07 3:48 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Part of my research has led me to think that the SN describes the relationship with the mother, no matter where the planets are.

Mothers spend their lives trying to push us out and away, at the same time pulling us back in. The SN exactly. Any evidence to support this would be welcomed.

5/3/07 3:54 PM  
Anonymous Joe said...

Yay, it's my NN in the spotlight! :o)

In the SN, the habit of excessive emotionalism dominates, but in the North lies cool reserve in the face of difficulties,

Exactly. All this really highlights the nature of my SN when my temper or frustration get the best of me.

All very fascinating. There's just no end to the layers we can peel away to marvel at the connections and synchronicities. Thanks jm!

5/3/07 4:06 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Joe, I rarely see people get it the way you do. You not only grasp it intellectually, but experientially right away. This is the key to character improvement which is the only solution to our troubles.

After a lifetime of hearing gossip and blaming others, with no real honest look at the self, I reached my limit. The political arena was the end. National Enquirer level.
So discussion from this standpoint is very enjoyable as well as educational for me.

The endless tearing down of others for gratification is pretty bad, and most of what is going on interpersonally. All of it can usually be traced to self dissatisfaction and juvenile behavior at the South.

With your Gem rising the gossip and one against the other can be destructive, but it also can be a learning tool if done right.

your SN alarm reaction is a problem. So the cool controlled response works wonders. You are so so so lucky to have all that good Capricorn to effect this.

One lucky guy!

5/3/07 4:18 PM  
Anonymous Joe said...

Does the proximity of Jupiter and the Moon to my NN have anything to do with it?

5/3/07 4:20 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Does the proximity of Jupiter and the Moon to my NN have anything to do with it?

A big resounding YES!!!!!!

Moon and Jupiter together is a karmic gift, for being generous of spirit and good to others, although there is a downside to the emotional excess and sometimes emotional power misused. But overall, it is a very lucky thing to have.

In spite of the family woes, the Moon (family) and Jupiter in Capricorn give you the perfect opportunity to be a wise and mature adult, which you already do in your good moments..:-), for one so young. There is emotional wisdom here, so to get beyond the SN will be a great joy for you. Probably why you are already doing it, while most of the others are nodding in agreement and continuing just as is, justifying everything and finding fault in everyone else.

Mastering the self is nothing short of fantastic.

5/3/07 4:29 PM  
Anonymous Joe said...

wow. That's encouraging! :o)

jm, how did you learn all these combinations and permutations of every sign and house and node? It can't be all from books.

5/3/07 4:34 PM  
Blogger jm said...

So part of the key to this, is taking excess focus away from the faults of others, and placing attention on the good aspects of yourself. Bank on your assets, while struggling with the challenges. It's amazing how much talent and good stuff is there if we capitalize.

5/3/07 4:36 PM  
Blogger jm said...

jm, how did you learn all these combinations and permutations of every sign and house and node? It can't be all from books.

Great great question, and why you are such a good learner of the best things in life.

I taught myself first through the books, and LOTS of them. But I also connected the mythology with it right off the bat, which I believe is crucial.

The planets are people to me because of this. They are here in the present and I have an active relationship with them.

I recommend self teaching. I had a great great local astrology chapter, so I was lucky. I attended lectures of the best astrologers. Much better than what is around the Net. So I'd be cautious about too much attention paid there, when you could be learning in a better way.

I wander through the used metaphysical book stores and the books find me.

It's all desire, and the combinations come easily once the momentum builds. But this is the trick. Once you know the planets and their personalities, you can combine extemporaneously on the spot.

If I see a venus/Uranus conjunction, for example, I don't even go by wrote. I see it afresh every time.

But the basic combos are not hard at all for the real student. Astrology is easy.

5/3/07 4:46 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Simplicity is the best approach.

Example. Moon and Jupiter.

The Moon is unschooled response to all stimuli. All sense impressions are taken up here first.
Jupiter is expansion.
So the feelings are inflated immediately.

This can be overreaction or emotional generosity. Probably both.

But take each planet and put it together that way.

Mars. energy.
Jupiter. Expansion.
Usually an active, energetic person, sometimes way too pushy, sometimes exciting and motivating.

5/3/07 4:53 PM  
Blogger jm said...

My dream is that all people would learn some astrology, so they wouldn't keep slapping one another upside the head in the dark. They'd know that others are doing what they are supposed to be doing, and are unlikely to change. If you don't like it, walk away. If you want to play the games, go ahead, but realize your part in it.

To me this is real politics. Learning to get along on the simplest level, best achieved through applied knowledge and awareness.

Astrology is a godsend. But it has to be used with a genuine concern for the good.

5/3/07 5:01 PM  
Blogger Lynn Hayes said...

JM, I love your node series. How would you feel about my posting it on my astrodynamics.net website?

Please email me & let me know, lynn@astrodynamics.net.

6/3/07 3:08 AM  
Blogger Will Divide said...

As a NN (and Sun) in Cap (8th Hse) lemmie just say Yikes, and thanks! You present a very acute sketch of the issues and outcomes involved.

Life is certainly interesting, ain't it?

6/3/07 5:59 AM  
Blogger Neith said...

Does your SN Libra sister have good relationships?

She's been married about 30+ years, have been very actively involved in her church (a Lutheran variation) for most of that time. Her husband is a Cancer Sun/Scorp Moon . . . very, very quiet guy with deep religious convictions. Both their children (Scorpios) were home schooled, neither are married & both are also active in the church. The daughter just turned 30 & is getting more schooling to work for the missionaries in Okinawa. I truly love & respect my sister though our life paths have been pretty much opposite in many ways.

Pluto did seem to get my sister to place her needs first for a change, the traveling for instance. I believe there will be an even deeper change in her when Pluto moves into Cap & conjuncts her Moon. Maybe she will learn to rewrite the rules she has adhered to most of her adult life.

That Aries NN does want her to continue to assert her independence & trust her desire to be more freewheeling . . . :-) I have hopes that she will get in touch with her fiery nature again. She was my buddy when we were kids tromping around in the woods on the river's edge, always a game one!

6/3/07 10:51 AM  
Blogger Neith said...

Mothers spend their lives trying to push us out and away, at the same time pulling us back in. The SN exactly. Any evidence to support this would be welcomed.

Ha, Ha, Ha!! When we were littles, my mom would track me down & drag me off on various family outings. And I always had a good time when we got there (Gemini NN)! She did her best to get us to go to church (Sag SN)as children. Now that didn't stick w/me . . .

6/3/07 11:14 AM  
Blogger jm said...

Lynn! Will be in touch.

6/3/07 1:30 PM  
Blogger jm said...

OMG will! I can't believe this.

First of all, welcome to raging Universe!
Life is certainly interesting, ain't it?

By all means, yes. Capricorn is coming for me. Yikes is right!

But this is amazing.
Voyage To The Bottom Of TV

I LOVE THIS!!
I threw my set in the dumpster 35 years ago, and that was when it was still almost watchable...by some.

What a great post on your blog. But this got my attention.

It's all noise, and, here's my point at last, the reason being is that fewer and fewer people are watching. This has caused an automatic doubling-down by programmers, a strengthening of the potion that more and more are finding unappealing in the first place. TV has never had to compete with any other medium before. Now that it has to, we see that it can't.

This is fantastic. I hesitated to believe this, but I got excited before when it appeared that it was true. I am delighted.

I'm an old-fashioned coot, and what I found I liked most were the shows where people sat at desks and spoke into microphones.

Me too.

Once again, welcome.

6/3/07 1:40 PM  
Blogger jm said...

She was my buddy when we were kids tromping around in the woods on the river's edge, always a game one!

That sounds good. And verifies my theory about the North early in life.

She did her best to get us to go to church (Sag SN)as children. Now that didn't stick w/me

Big, big, big one for SN Sag. You can unleash when we get there.

6/3/07 1:43 PM  
Blogger AcousticGod said...

Wow! Sorting through all the posts I forgot what the article was about!

Just for the record, this Capricorn isn't into family tradition unnecessarily. Of course, we don't have many traditions, and I only see my family once a year, so that could provide a reason. As such, when I do see my family I almost feel like a celebrity, because I'm the long, lost relative that everyone enjoys, but nobody knows. I kind of enjoy that status. My immediate family consists of five fire suns, an air sun, and I.

I was actually very recently in an argument with a Leo regarding Capricorn North Nodes. The Leo was just foolishly trying to defend an Aries astrologer's position, which was that the Nodes don't give the native any traits. I maintained that they do as Jan Spiller wrote in her popular book Astrology For The Soul. It was a truly ridiculous argument, and the Leo slunk away not admitting he was wrong, but rather just letting it drop.

I feel kind of bad I haven't been around lately, but I just haven't had the right energy for it. I would love it if you had a forum, because to me this [blog] is kind of an odd way to interact. I really love your style and your input, though, so I'd feel a little more at ease if I wasn't interupting an unrelated discussion. Also, with the way the blog moves forward it's difficult to tell if a comment on one of your previous blogs will be seen.

9/3/07 10:53 PM  
Blogger jm said...

This is fantastic, ag!

The Leo was just foolishly trying to defend an Aries astrologer's position, which was that the Nodes don't give the native any traits.

Maybe they don't, but they sure as hell affect behaviors.

I am thrilled that you know Jan Spiller. Her book is tops.

so I'd feel a little more at ease if I wasn't interupting an unrelated discussion.

Feel completely free to interrupt at any time. I think this would actually do us some good.

with the way the blog moves forward it's difficult to tell if a comment on one of your previous blogs will be seen.

I'm seeing it right now.

10/3/07 1:35 AM  

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