Friday, June 08, 2007

The Crisis

The slow moving outer planets are responsible for human evolution and when they change signs a sensation of crisis sometimes accompanies the exit.
Crisis: Gk.krisis: point of decision
Saturn is the last of the personal planets, and it could be why he gets so much emphasis. He will be the first to change signs September 2, and a peek at the house he's now traveling in your charts will give you a clue as to what's being resolved.

But the big one is Pluto, the slowest moving and the major entity of evolutionary change. From now until his exit next January, the chances are good that there will be a coming and going of unusually intense experience, and an urge to understand what is happening and where we are going, both personally and collectively.
It's a once in a generation opportunity.

There will be a three month stop in the Galactic Center of our galaxy, the Milky way, as Pluto turns a
around and heads out for Capricorn. This is not happenstance. I often get stations at critical points in my own chart and I attribute my personal evolution to this factor. I work with these moments as best I can.

The experience of Pluto through Sagittarius has been unique for everyone and a complete encyclopedia can be written, but one of the most important lessons to me is the understanding of the human species' connection to the cosmos. Macrocosm-microcosm, as above, so below. It's not mere chance, nor some oppressive force that's dictating mundane events. It's a natural and logical sequence enabling collective progression.

The Iraq situation will be resolved when the right time comes, along with people's trust in life. There is probably an overall feeling of spiritual crisis now that this passage is being completed and the world goes on to a completely new lesson, with the newly acquired knowledge as an ally. Many people are feeling overwhelmed and unsure about the path ahead, but it will be revealed as this cycle completes itself. Meanwhile, the vacillation between despair and hope continues.

One thing to keep in mind is the new diminished status of Pluto as a dwarf-planet, which could indicate a lessening of cataclysmic destructive power unleashed as a solution to global problems. The attempted merging of omnipotent dictatorial powers could also be up for some removal, no longer being needed as much while the collective matures and gains understanding of its nature along with knowledge of cosmic participation, in the last quadrant of the wheel. The cosmic connection was made in Sagittarius. One fascinating element is the new Pope, Benedict XVI, who embodies and frailly expresses the weakened position of the Catholic Church. He's a Pisces Rising, of course, Jupiter conjunct the ASC and Mercury in Pisces (there is always Pisces involved these days). But here is another amazing fact. His midheaven is 26 degrees Sagittarius!! The Galactic Center. Perfect fit. Here is a rundown of the diminshed Pluto through the houses and how an individual might experience the end of the transit personally.

Saturn will soon leave Leo and with it, the need for charismatic leadership without substance, exchanging all that glitters for real ideas, possibly an an electron-microscopic touch of intellect. The candidates now are the ultimate in superficial glamour and expensive image making, but eventually things will change.
As Pluto stations and turns direct he will return to the 28 degree point he occupies right now. This moment just ahead is very interesting. At the 28th degree in December, all on the same day, The NN will leave Pisces for Aquarius, Jupiter will enter Capricorn, and Saturn will make its first retrograde in Virgo.

The next phase. The NN in Aquarius will be a "we the people" time, with the SN in Leo marking the after effects of bad leadership. The SN in Virgo now has prevented concentrated healing and repair, but Saturn in Virgo will facilitate this. Service to the collective and the start of governmental change with the people as conscious participants will get underway. Of course, there will be hardships, as always, but after the 1 and 1/2 years of the NN in Aquarius, the NN will go into Capricorn and join Pluto, just when Uranus enters Aries. The SN in Cancer will hopefully end some of the infantile behavior of this society. The signs of political responsibility are already appearing. More on this later.

Pluto through Capricorn? Nothing to be afraid of. Nothing is against humanity that can't be handled, it's all fair and orchestrated. After this time of crisis, newfound confidence in the universe will be ready to go to work.

39 Comments:

Blogger Neith said...

Very, very good, jm. You've been on a roll lately and we're loving it out here in the astro-blogosphere!! Wonderful stuff =sigh= :-)

8/6/07 10:16 AM  
Anonymous Analysa said...

“.....but one of the most important lessons to me is the understanding of the human species' connection to the cosmos. Macrocosm-microcosm, as above, so below.”

Well, you must know, that that is the kind of bait to lure me out of my cave, right?

I´ve been reading through the grand labyrinth of some of your past posts and there seems to be a common thread to a lot of them, always arriving at the point of trying to penetrate and go beyond the principle of polarity. Now, I don´t know how much emphasis was given on the relevance of this to you, but it was at the center of my cosmological studies, one of the major models, and most difficult, not only to teach, but to know how to apply practically in ones life. Through my readings and learnings I have only met a couple of people who where masters at this. ( And no, they don´t stand on a pedestal).In a lot of your metaphysical talk you touch on this.

You must know this passage from the Gospel of Thomas:

“When you make the two one,
and when you make the outside like the inside,
and the above like the below;
when you make the male and female as one,
then you will enter the kingdom of God.”

I think Einstein himself said he was trying to penetrate the mind of God. Apparently he came close to the Eternal Principles - the Mind of God - but wasn´t able to make that breakthrough.

I shouldn´t go on as I will end up challenging myself into a conversation with you, that will throw me against my hard, hard Saturn wall. HA HA ! I wish it was gone already, then I could have a lot of fun with you here!

8/6/07 12:28 PM  
Anonymous Analysa said...

“The next phase. The NN in Aquarius will be a "we the people" time, ...”

I look forward to that, might make me feel a bit more at home here on this planet!

jm, I was wondering about the nodes and relationships. If someone has his NN in Pisces (don´t know his birth hour, he´s a Capricorn stuck in his SN Virgo), how would that polarize with all my planets in Pisces & Virgo?

8/6/07 12:31 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Looks like I'm getting serious neith!

Analysa, this is wonderful. I didn't know you had this knowledge and I'm thrilled.

I´ve been reading through the grand labyrinth of some of your past posts and there seems to be a common thread to a lot of them, always arriving at the point of trying to penetrate and go beyond the principle of polarity.

Through my readings and learnings I have only met a couple of people who where masters at this.

Vey very true, and this has been a source of my alienation, people always saying they don't undestand. It upsets them. I stopped speaking about these matters long ago, and I am surprised by this turn of events. The internet is astounding in the way it's facilitating the meeting of like minds.

This concept and the other one that expresses the individual as the creator of her reality and has sole-soul control of her destiny are two main pillars. All experience is valuable in view of the polarity factor. the arbitrary separation of bad and good is necessary on some levels, but it's faulty. Every single experience has opportunity for positive growth, and what appears to be bad is often not, and vice versa. I mentioned that recently.

The person as the center of his life is the hardest one for people to accept. The cause and effect.
I never could understand the universal "blame the other or thing" since it makes improvement impossible, except by happenstance. Extremely frustrating. Unrewarding. Changing the self is the only practical way to arrive at an improved situation.

one of the major models, and most difficult, not only to teach, but to know how to apply practically in ones life.

The practical use of this knowledge is one of my crusades.

I love the phrase "grand labyrinth". This is going into my consciousness.

Yes. I also think Einstein was a metaphysician.

Be back momentarily on the nodes.

This is wonderful.

8/6/07 2:50 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Great question on the polarization of the nodes. This combination is a perfect opportunity to make progress, and you are already doing that by being aware of his SN pull.

I tend to think this is better for you than him. Your heavy planets on his SN make it hard for him to leave the habitual behavior; overanalysis, too dry and mental, anxious, uptight, blocked emotional flow, etc. These things are fine for you, and are a healthy balance to the Pisces in your chart, but the SN wants out.

On the other hand, your Moon-Saturn on his North could be a great place for him to learn, and his NN could help you unblock the Saturn in Pisces, the hardest part of the chart. It will happen automatically to some extent, but conscious work on sharing the poetic, feeling sides of your natures would be great. The potential is vast. he lands smack dab on your life's dilemma. Beside your search for love and full self expression with your NN in the 5th.

There is deep sadness with the Moon-Saturn in Pisces and an understanding of the truth of life's suffering, and even the element of futility. Few can share the extent of your wisdom and understanding of these things. the comi-tragedy and absurdity of life. And the ultimate inability to do much of anything no matter how hard we try, or how good our intentions. Success and failure are relative, if they exist at all.

But with Capricorn, success in the world is important. NN in Pisces sees through it, back to the individual as his own voice of authority. Capricorns also know the suffering.

This one is complex, but it is such a good opportunity for you. You also have worldly ambitions as a communicator of some sort (your facility with language is stellar), and he could help you proceed if you use what he has to contribute.

It goes back to what you were talking about the other day. How do we express the universal in concrete reality? Saturn-Neptune. All through this relationship.

So the combined intellect of the two charts, plus the serious pursuit of goals could be beneficial as long as the emotional aspect is given expression. An issue for both of you, the hardest for him who wants to categorizes and comparmentalize his experience. Break it up rather than synthesize. Moreso than you, even with all your virgo!

Very interesting relationship. With you the synthesis of the polar opposite is a little easier. With him, the releasing of the grip on the SN is a requirement for the synthesis and this is difficult.

The Mercury on your Midheaven is the indication of your success in communication and it rules the 7th house of partnership. So this says that partners are integral to your achievement. This one fits and much can be gained no matter what the future brings.

8/6/07 4:10 PM  
Anonymous Analysa said...

So I´m overwhelmed with all I want to answer you here ... and I´m slooow

I´m trying to find one of your own posts to give you an example, but can´t find it. It was one about pain and pleasure. Your question was, if I remember well, “Is pleasure always accompanied by pain and vice versa?” From when was that post, do you remember?

8/6/07 4:35 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Yup. The pain-pleasure one was at Jazzrap.

Pain & Pleasure

Take your time. I'm not going anywhere.

8/6/07 5:00 PM  
Blogger jm said...

might make me feel a bit more at home here on this planet!

This is interesting analysa. It's your SN in the 11th (the misfit), which is coming up. You will love it.

8/6/07 5:35 PM  
Anonymous Analysa said...

You see, I got myself into trouble here, especially talking about some of the Eternal Principles. Even though they are so simple, it is a challenge for me to talk about them. Especially because I´m more intuitive by nature, I don´t intellectualize them so much. Plus that Saturn wall.

So, on the polarity of pain and pleasure.

“Do pleasure and pain always accompany one another, or can they be experienced separately?, I wonder.
jm said...I think both are always present.”

That´s right. At the extreme of pain there is joy (IF you find the breakthrough the joy is there) and in the depth of pleasure you can feel pain (like during orgasm).

What you are touching upon here is the principle of yin and yang. You know the symbol of yin and yang, right? Usually it is black and white. The black part has a little white dot and the white part has a little black dot.

Yin always contains some yang and yang always contains some yin.
Yin in its extreme will become yang and yang in its extreme will become yin, they endlessly alternate and one constantly changes into the other.
( for example day /night; cycle of the moon; the seasons)

Yin and yang are not an intellecutal concept at all, but a way of interpreting nature or natural movemnt.

You know that everything comes from Oneness and everything that appears is a differentiation of this One Infinite Universe, and all antagonisms are complimentary. In a lot of your metaphysical talk you have captured this, how opposites compliment each other and create harmony.
When you can really understand this, and I think you are there, the ideas of good - bad; happy - sad; enemy - friend don´t have the same meaning any more. Like enemies, for example, they can make you stronger, more resourceful, more independent, while friends can make us more weak because they always make excuses for us, trying to help us. Like tseka´s comparison of Bush to a “sacred clown”, great conversation that was.

Really capturing this principle, allows you to bring some order or harmony into your life and if you know how to use it, by clasifying according to yin/yang it allows you to create change, the tricky part.

Yin and yang are at the base of nine major models. Even when I learned about them, my teacher said that to cover them in any depth was very difficult. He said that if you could penetrate the principle of polarity, this understanding, then you could penetrate all things, that was the kind of depth it had and that there is no exception to this principle, because it is based on nature.

8/6/07 6:58 PM  
Anonymous Analysa said...

“Your heavy planets on his SN make it hard for him to leave the habitual behavior”
“On the other hand, your Moon-Saturn on his North could be a great place for him to learn, and his NN could help you unblock the Saturn in Pisces...”

Yes, I found that he would dislike it if I was in the SN “mode” whereas the NN Pisces would unite us.

“Success and failure are relative, if they exist at all.”

You see, the principle of polarity speaking, two faces of the same coin, you can´t separate them, they complete each other and always go together. One creates the other.

Thanks for those insights, they are right on. It has been a complicated situation, deep and passionate, I hope it will clarify soon.

“This is interesting analysa. It's your SN in the 11th (the misfit), which is coming up.”

The misfit? What is this misfit?

8/6/07 7:28 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Like enemies, for example, they can make you stronger, more resourceful, more independent, while friends can make us more weak because they always make excuses for us, trying to help us. Like tseka´s comparison of Bush to a “sacred clown”, great conversation that was.

This so beautifully stated analysa. I completely agree. I'm constantly amazed at your skill with language.
I also agree on the power of that sacred clown conversation.

This is exactly what's going on for me now. An enemy that I realize is an ally. They all are. Every single human in our experience can play a beneficial role. This is a big test of my belief.

Maybe the nodal axis is the clearest example of the yin-yang principle. And I know the truth of all of this. Similar to Taoist philosophy, which views all experiences as equal. So they can take success in the world or leave it. Every choice has consequences.

The enemy factor is most important. As I was saying about the pain, I'm having an experience now that is in the top 10 of worst ones in my life but I will not take the usual victim route. This time I am going to see it clearly unfold as a means to my evolution.
I view it as a piece of clay that I can mold any way I want. I attracted the enemy/friend for very sound reasons. Some how I already sense that my attitude is going to make this work out in my favor. Well, however it goes, it will be in my favor.
Also, one of the best experiences is happening simultaneously. Yin-yang.

So this conversation is right on the money.

8/6/07 7:42 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The misfit is associated with Aquarius. One of the traditional names for the Aquarian is "the hunchback".

All Aquarians have this separation and it plays out in an infinite number of ways. It also helps them to be active in society since they stay detached and don't always take things personally.

But the SN in Aquarius or the 11th has problems with this detachment. They are moving into personal love in the 5th and it can be very distressing to feel so alienated. The love of Leo and the 5th house is warm and fills the heart. I'll get into this in depth when we do the node.

the principle of polarity speaking, two faces of the same coin, you can´t separate them, they complete each other and always go together. One creates the other.

Absolutely.
These times with the hope/despair axis the collective is experiencing is all about this.

8/6/07 7:51 PM  
Blogger jm said...

This is one way I see it.

I don't know if you are familiar with the game in this country where a machine has a bunch of little ground hog heads all together. The player takes the mallet and the game begins. He tries to pound down every head, but as one goes down, another pops back up. It's impossible to defeat them.

I liken this to the continuum of experience. One things gets fixed another falls apart. Yin-Yang. I used to be annoyed with the constant unraveling, hoping that order would prevail eventually, but now I know this isn't so. Life stays pretty much the same overall, with good and bad, probably close to equal.

I think this transit of the NN in Pisces has especially made this experiential for me.

8/6/07 8:08 PM  
Anonymous Analysa said...

“This is exactly what's going on for me now. An enemy that I realize is an ally. They all are. Every single human in our experience can play a beneficial role. This is a big test of my belief.”

That is just what I went through and still am going through. It is one thing learning about “complimentary opposites” in a classroom but totally different when life kind of throws you into the mouth of the wolf, then you have to internalize it on a very, very different level. It is a big test.I started to see where my enemy was a part of my own shadow. I had to find a lot of forgiveness for myself. And to stop blaming others wasn´t that easy either. I do hope you are ok and that you don´t have a health problem, those are the hardest.

BTW, you should stop complimenting me on my language skills, that is ridiculous, especially coming from you, with all that eloquence ! Yes, I can have a conversation, but it lacks a lot of a lot of things (can one say that?)

8/6/07 8:31 PM  
Blogger jm said...

OK!! no more compliments!

No health problems. For me they are the worst, too. Health is my no. 1 priority.

My problems are really about the same as they always are, sensation wise. There are sudden dramatic events but they settle down quickly to the usual agony. I've always been philosophical. life = problems.

My main dictum is that every problem comes with a solution. the interesting part is how different they are from what I thought they would be. Seeing who we truly are and what we want is the adventure when trying to marry desire with satisfaction. Sometimes a painful event is just what we need for the next phase.

I always always see how I've gotten myself into my jams.

8/6/07 8:50 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Health problems
Plumbing problems
Crimes against the person
Major accidents
Termites
Bedbugs

These are baaaddddd.

Money problems
Relationship problems
Even car problems
Holes in favorite garments
Sagging skin

Not so bad.

8/6/07 8:57 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Headed out to purchase an avocado. Will return shortly.

8/6/07 9:06 PM  
Anonymous Analysa said...

Part of my teachings where to always welcome difficulties as these would strengthen you and build character. I think that is right, but up to a point. If it becomes too much it can be very draining.

That is why it is important to understand the yin/yang energies of what we do, how we live, how we think, what we eat. Because what tends to happen is that imbalance perpetuates itself. Once you move too far away from the center your perception changes and you can´t see things clearly anymore. That is when you are more likely to develop some kind of problem. Like for example with a car accident, if you hit someone, it is a sign that your are too yang, if somenone hits you, a sign that your are too yin.

When you move too far away from the center eventually you can´t come back to the center in a normal way, but you keep going to the extreme and it is at the extreme point where change happens. But it happens so fast, you can´t control it, usually through some tragic event. Around the center there is less action, more peace and balance. But human nature is to do more and more of what we like, and that gets us into trouble. Things are always more interesting at the extremes, well, maybe when you had enough of it, not anymore.

Like take the modern diet, it is totally based on extreme processed refined foods, traditional people ate diets centered around beans, grains and vegetables. How can a society function in a healthy manner on such poisonous foods, let alone think or grow spiritually?

8/6/07 9:14 PM  
Anonymous Analysa said...

So glad there are no health problems. Best news.

“There are sudden dramatic events but they settle down quickly to the usual agony.”

Well, if I may (though not my area of expertise), I think that is just your SN Scorpio, in its final days, dying out, if you so choose.

“Health problems
Plumbing problems
Crimes against the person
Major accidents
Termites
Bedbugs

These are baaaddddd.”

HA HA, termits, bedbugs, I should tell you about my flea story, that is the story I was going to tell you at jazrap! Yes that is baaadddd but turned out to be GOOD.

8/6/07 9:28 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Like for example with a car accident, if you hit someone, it is a sign that your are too yang, if somenone hits you, a sign that your are too yin.

Very very interesting. Never looked at from this perspective. I have ways of reading accidents and this is a great addition.

Around the center there is less action, more peace and balance. But human nature is to do more and more of what we like, and that gets us into trouble.

Exactly, exactly, exactly the Taurus-Scorpio nodes. I'm going North and the current situation is the turning point. Very interesting.

Like take the modern diet, it is totally based on extreme processed refined foods, traditional people ate diets centered around beans, grains and vegetables.

Big one for me. The beans and grains especially are the peaceful median.

8/6/07 10:35 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Well, if I may (though not my area of expertise), I think that is just your SN Scorpio, in its final days, dying out, if you so choose.

Yeeaaayyyyyy!!!!!
Yes yes yes yes yes yes!!!!!
OMG!!!!

Analysa I love you.

8/6/07 10:36 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Fleas!!!

I'm interested in how it got good.

8/6/07 10:37 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Part of my teachings where to always welcome difficulties as these would strengthen you and build character.

Another pillar. I believe I should welcome all experience. It's irrevocable once it arrives in manifest reality. So I will accept and work with every situation.

8/6/07 10:40 PM  
Anonymous Analysa said...

Here is my little story. I hope I made it succinct enough. If it is too long for your blog, you can remove it. Whatever.

So as in any crisis and healing phase, and this one has been going on for quite a while and is not finished yet, one goes through different stages & when all what is unconscious and repressed comes finally out, you see your pattern so clearly that you know you’ve got to let it go.

In my case, to help me in this process, along came the fleas! Last summer I suddenly started getting bitten at night. When I woke up in the morning I found bites on my feet. I thought these where mosquito bites and didn’t give it much thought. “Ah, my blood was too acidic, the detox diet I had started was making me discharge old toxins”. Long story short, it didn’t stop but got worse and I found out I had fleas. I was in total shock! I was given all kinds of natural and chemical sprays, that didn’t help and through the internet found out about their growth cycles and the best was to vacuum, vacuum & vacuum. That became a total hassle as I was living in a very large space, how was I to control that? It got to the point where I was able to control them somewhat. When a new group had hatched, I just vacuumed and vacuumed. Finally I didn´t have any in the bedroom, office, bathroom living room & kitchen, I thought, it was over.

For those who don´t know about bugs, this is a totally exhausting experience. After asking myself a hundred questions of how they got into the house, I just had to come to the realization that on some level they were resonating with me and trying to teach me something. I´m sure there are plenty of fleas out there in nature all the time, but they had never attacked me!

I saw something very interesting. It is said that from a higher level everything is balance, even the most tragic situation. At that time in my life I was dealing with serious problems that could end up in me losing my whole existance. I had gotten myself into a situation where I had given absolutely everything to a community, my work, my family and now the situation turned around totally. To some degree I felt like a victim, I felt sorry for myself. I couldn´t get over the fact of how much good I had done all my life, how much I had helped different people, how much I was willing to sacrifice, how I had all these very high ideals for the world and society and all I got back was the complete opposite. On top of that I was being attacked by fleas, attacking my feet & sucking on my blood.

The exact same thing that was happening on the outside was now happening on the inside.

On the outside some corrupt individuals where attacking my existance, the foundation of my life, what I stood on and nourishing themselves with it. On the inside I had the fleas doing the same.

Now came the question, if everything the Universe sends you is good, why do I need these corrupt people & the fleas? What are they trying to teach me, where do I need to change? It took me a while to see it but when I got it, it was real clear.
Me (the extreme of giving everything away) balanced by Corrupt people + Fleas (the extreme of taking everything they could). That is still balance, but a very extreme uncomfortable balance.

My higher self asked me, “well, how does this make you feel?” I said it made me feel like I didn´t want to do anything anymore for others, that I should concentrate on myself, on how I wanted to enjoy my own life. Stop being a saviour and problem solver for others. My higer self said, “well, this is exactly the point you needed to reach. This is it. That is your answer”.

The fleas had pushed the whole situation to the extreme, where I could finally change my point of view about my stuck pattern of “healing or saving” everyone. They became my best teachers.

I reached a very painful place within, where I had to find a lot of forgiveness for myself for misunderstanding the reality of life. (All that catholic upbringing!) It was my wrong view of life that was the root cause of my own problems. I couldn´t blame anyone for it. This was so enlightening for me and after one more batch of fleas, which got to be the worst one, I never had any more fleas. And as I found my neutrality to the corrupt people in my life and thanked them for being there, these started to be removed. Although the situation is not totally closed and done with, I see where it is in its final stages. Ahhhhh, what a relief .......

9/6/07 2:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Love the flea story, analysa. :-)

Thanks to you for sharing and to JM for providing the space where you could share.
~~kj

9/6/07 4:20 AM  
Anonymous Joe said...

That's a powerful story, Analysa. I can see shades of myself in this. I think the attacks of vertigo I've been having in recent months, which were diagnosed only after seeing a medical specialist, have forced me to slow down and seek balance. I suspect the inner imbalance echoes the greater, outer imbalance that was present in my life. At any rate, like you, I've been learning to slow down and enjoy my life more than I was.

9/6/07 6:19 AM  
Anonymous chrispito said...

Analysa, that flea story was amazing! I had an infestation last November--the same time as the stellium. Your thoughts put a whole new spin on things. Having a flea infestation is totally exhausting.

Thanks for this great conversation. I am embarking on transformational counselling and the polarity issue and the idea that everything and everyone in my life has been created (ie. I've drawn it close) by and to me, well it is empowering. To put it mildly.

Have a wonderful dy, everyone! It's grey here, but the day is more cheerful minute by minute1

9/6/07 8:30 AM  
Anonymous Analysa said...

So great you guys enjoyed the story!

Joe said... “ .... attacks of vertigo ..... seek balance”.

That has a lot to do with how you nourish yourself on different levels, the soil element(stomach pancreas), all to do with balance.

You too chrispito? OMG! It was a NIGHTMARE but became the bridge to my new life.

Wanted to comment on some of your comments jm.

“Maybe the nodal axis is the clearest example of the yin-yang principle.”

Your deep insights jm, and beautiful expression of the dynamics of the nodes is simply fantastic! It is the principle of polarity applied to mental/emotional patterns.

“Similar to Taoist philosophy”

Well the Tao Teh Ching & I Ching contain it all. But how to translate that into our modern thinking and make that practical. It is not within our culture to think this way at all. Modern society is so stuck in good and bad.

The challenge is in turning that painful event into a happy event. Not just getting rid of the painful event. But turning it around.

“Analysa I love you.”

Ohh, I love being loved! Tralala la la

“ ..... Sagging skin. Not so bad.”

Sagging skin is caused by .... I don´t know if you want to know, you probably won´t like the answer much

“I've always been philosophical. Life = problems.”

Life = Play

(new def. for NN Taurus, + everyone who wants to join!)

I want to come back later and give you a few practical examples about yin and yang, that is the easiest way to understand this.

9/6/07 9:33 AM  
Blogger jm said...

Well it looks like the end of the SN in Scorpio after all!

What differences among people. Most everyone would call the exterminator and that's it. How many levels of experience there are. I wonder what makes the difference between those who value and use their experiences for self knowledge and those who skim and run off.

That has a lot to do with how you nourish yourself on different levels, the soil element(stomach pancreas), all to do with balance.

Interesting. Fluids I think are behind balance maintenance. I thought it was Libra, ruling the lower back region, including the kidneys, but it could be more complex.
Maybe Neptune is involved, because of the fluid. Kidneys are involved with water levels, so they could factor in.

One thing is connected to another, though. So where is the source of balance in the body?

9/6/07 1:48 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Life = Play

That's the NN in the 5th house.

And as I found my neutrality to the corrupt people

This is good. I think real enlightenment includes the good people in our lives in this approach. Neutrality towards all as a larger framework, even though we love and hate and go through emotional extremes on other levels. An overall detachment works well, I think, for those who are seeking a definite, workable cosmic connection and understanding of destiny as singular ultimately.

It's always said that the mystic has to embrace his absolute aloneness, and I've often wondered if this applies to the artist as well. The knowledge of wholeness in the self.

A very advanced thing to recognize the polarities within and take external circumstance as the reflection not the source.

That's part of my Uranian liberation in motion now. Independence from the importance of everything. It's a lot of nothing too.

9/6/07 2:01 PM  
Anonymous Analysa said...

“I wonder what makes the difference between those who value and use their experiences for self knowledge and those who skim and run off.”

I think those who skim and run off have something going on they are not ready to deal with, they simply can´t see it, don´t want to or don´t know how to see it and change it. They will have to face a more difficult situation further down the road. Like taking their imbalance really to the extreme where they are forced to change. I think sometimes it is simply not the time yet. Maybe in the next lifetime circumstances will allow the issue to be worked on more gradually. One of my teachers says that getting rid of the symptoms of any illness is the easy part, but for the person to change spiritually, that is the hard part. After what I have just been through, I have to agree. The fleas and corrupt people were just showing me what I was doing to myself.

“So where is the source of balance in the body?”

I think you can look at that from different directions. The blood and lymph system; the soil element, kidneys. At the end it has to show in all areas: physical, mental / emotional and spiritual.

“That's part of my Uranian liberation in motion now.”

Uranian liberation, I do look forward to that!

9/6/07 4:54 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I think sometimes it is simply not the time yet. Maybe in the next lifetime circumstances will allow the issue to be worked on more gradually.

Good answer to why they don't see the symbolism.

The fleas and corrupt people were just showing me what I was doing to myself.

I approach everything this way. I always ask, "why am I doing this to myself?"
There usually is a good reason.

You did exceptionally well with the flea circus. Bugs can be amazingly annoying and they pretty much dominate the earth. They can destroy us and our habitat. I wonder exactly what the human purpose and contribution are to the planetary system.

9/6/07 7:52 PM  
Anonymous chrispito said...

After listening to this conversation, I am wondering, Jm, if bugs' purpose is related to the raising of our consciousness!

9/6/07 8:18 PM  
Blogger jm said...

HA HA!! Great idea.
They get our attention. Talk about our ugly and nasty shadow! Some are gorgeous, though.

I think everything can raise our consciousness. A peanut. A rubber band. A human, even.

9/6/07 8:25 PM  
Blogger jm said...

One amazing thing is how insects can consolidate and form armies to destroy ours and the earth's creations. They are more efficient organizers than we are and they seem to cross all kinds of boundaries to get together on their missions. Collective creatures, they are.

9/6/07 8:34 PM  
Anonymous sige said...

"We only know what I know when we live it." (rough paraphrase of Kabir)

Bringing thought into experience is s joining of the polarities of body mind. "The spiritual life is not a theory, we have to live it."

For example, once met, and embraced, in the house of mirrors, Fear can become a powerfully ally. I like the way Fear laughes, for instance.

10/6/07 5:04 AM  
Anonymous sige said...

And I love the Gospel of Thomas. :-)

10/6/07 5:05 AM  
Anonymous sige said...

And Justification, omg, Justification is a hoot. So self-righteous, little slits for eyes, the slight tilt of chin. Easily tripped, however, what with all its attention on its own sense of being judge and jury of All.

Like to think about the line from Bruce Springsteen when Justification comes to visit: "The highway's filled with broken heroes on a last chance power drive." That sort of describes old Justy to a T, I think. :-)

10/6/07 5:16 AM  
Anonymous sige said...

(Sometimes I kick the Jeep into power drive.) ;-b

10/6/07 5:21 AM  

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