Monday, February 19, 2007

Forewarned.

As many of you neurons in this universal mind know, I am not fond of today's popular music. This looks very much like a regiment going into battle. Make sure you're armored if you plan on attending one of these fine cultural events.
Tickets will not be available at Incus, Malleus, and Stapes, Inc.
Illustration from the Vienna Theater Newspaper, 1846.

50 Comments:

Blogger Jane said...

Hahahahaaaaa!!! The lady does have a sense of humour -- that illustration!!!!

And look at that! Blogger loves me this morning -- let me in!!

Personally? My favorite sound is the sound of the universe itself...

19/2/07 5:23 AM  
Blogger Kadimiros said...

One of my graphic design teachers used to comment on pedestrians wearing earphones, and listening to recorded music. He considered that to be a symptom of disconnection from the vitality of life in the present. He was fairly Uranian; he found the background chatter of traffic and the visual pop of yellow taxis coming around the corner highly stimulating and endlessly fascinating.

19/2/07 11:50 AM  
Blogger jm said...

The universe sounds great!!

I agree kadimiros.

He considered that to be a symptom of disconnection from the vitality of life in the present. He was fairly Uranian; he found the background chatter of traffic and the visual pop of yellow taxis coming around the corner highly stimulating and endlessly fascinating.

This is important about the vitality of life. it's in the front of my lobes at the moment.

I hear the pitch of the car horns and I love it. Sometimes it's overwhelming, but mostly it's the sound of activity. There's some joy, some desperation, a little of everything. The Uranian does loves the variety and the unique combination every day.

In my world, the quiet contrasts with this cacophony making a perfect blend. Seems like paying for a ticket for noise ruins the experience..:-)

19/2/07 1:41 PM  
Blogger jm said...

What I find interesting in this illustration is the Fact/fiction of history. I've always gotten my best picture from novels, art, and the other cultural expressions.

This reveals the same rock syndrome we have today, and we romanticize and believe that it was peaches and cream in the old days. This is so funny. I feel at home with the past.

19/2/07 2:54 PM  
Blogger Jane said...

I feel at home with the past.

With your Cancer Sun in 4H, no surprise. Cancer rules History, memories, the past. :-)

19/2/07 3:12 PM  
Blogger Jane said...

"In every age 'the good old days' were a myth. No one ever thought they were good at the time. For every age has consisted of crises that seemed intolerable to the people who lived through them." -- Brooks Atkinson

"Things ain't what they used to be and never were." -- Will Rogers

19/2/07 3:17 PM  
Blogger Jane said...

"Music is part of us, and either ennobles or degrades our behavior." -- Boethius

19/2/07 3:22 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Music is part of us, and either ennobles or degrades our behavior

Very very very interesting quote.

19/2/07 3:30 PM  
Blogger jm said...

This is fascinting.

Anicius Manlius Severinus Boethius[1] (480–524 or 525) was a Christian philosopher of the 6th century

long ago, and still present.
He was so productive it's hard to believe, all the while awaiting execution.

The Boethian Wheel" (or "Wheel of Fortune") was a concept that Boethius put forth in Consolation that remained very popular throughout the Middle Ages, and is still often seen today. As the wheel turns those that have power and wealth will turn to dust; men may rise from poverty and hunger to greatness, while those who are great may fall with the turn of the wheel. It was represented in the middle ages in many relics of art depicting the rise and fall of man.

Absolutely incredible. I didn't know this connection, and the Wheel of Fortune is one of my main interests.

Thanks for this.

19/2/07 3:37 PM  
Blogger Jane said...

I'm glad you caught that about the wheel... :-)

I was gonna cut and paste it...

19/2/07 3:39 PM  
Blogger Jane said...

Sidenote for Joe:

I read somewhere you were looking for how to cast a horary chart at astrodienst.

If you're still wanting to do that, I think I can explain. (It can be done, if I understand correctly.)

Let me know.

19/2/07 3:41 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I've never heard it expressed this way about music. I know of its power over mankind. Hitler, and many others used it extensively to achieve their goals. And the way it can evoke memory, bringing it completely into the present.
The goose bumps, the tears, the joy, all the intensity of emotion.

This is a lot to ponder. There might be good reason that I protest the violence and sickness in so much of it. All the more reason to get out the ennobling kind. And stick to it.

It's the age old battle between polarities, and music is an immediate connection, bypassing analysis.

19/2/07 3:43 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The Wheel of Fortune is the main guide behind my faith. There are major turns of the Wheel in a life, but also many minor ones, even daily.

I've long felt the slow turn and ride up in my own life, and I've been reluctant to push it too fast.
The Wheel comes up in my songs often. The circle of life. The fates. Luck. I love the image.

This is why I didn't court fame early. The fall has to come. I'd rather fall late. The best time in an artist's life, in terms of success, is on the ride up. The top is the start of the downfall. Fact of physics.

19/2/07 3:49 PM  
Blogger Jane said...

Hitler, and many others used it extensively to achieve their goals.

Move over Adolf boy!! It's Jm's turn!!!

19/2/07 4:49 PM  
Blogger Jane said...

The best time in an artist's life, in terms of success, is on the ride up.

The time has come! :-)

ACTION! Aries arise!

"It's the action, not the fruit of the action that's important. You have to do the right thing... You may never know what results come from your action. But if you do nothing, there will be no results." -- Mohandas K. Gandhi

(I know you know this already ;-) )

19/2/07 4:56 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Great quote.

It's the action, not the fruit of the action that's important.

Very important thing to keep in mind for an Aries Rising.

It's so amazingly simple. Pure action is my cure-all. The fruit part is right, and I also have to remember not to mind about the consequences. I've shortchanged myself forever by worrying about these. Worrying about others responses. Worrying about the bruises. IC/MC. ASC/DSC.
The consequences are a fact. Pure and simple.

Hell's Bells and Pluto comin' to my Mars.

19/2/07 5:08 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I do want to mention one important thing to all you enthusiastic new astrologers and the old ones too. About transits and cycles. Fear and hocus-pocus.

I have Pluto now close to the square to my Mars, ruler of my life. This is a big one. One that many readers would say will have dire consequences. trouble with the law, violence, underhanded dealings, underworld trouble, and the usual fearful predictions. All possible, of course.

The conjunction occurred many years ago and it was one of the worst, most terrifying experiences of my life. Naturally I had some fear approaching this one.
But everything is different. My second Saturn return was nothing like the first.
Although I have no idea what is ahead, I sense that it wil be less horrifying than the conjunction, when a lifetime of Mars rage was released. I new it was permanent then. What I do know now is that this transit is for the purpose of getting me in touch with my energy and life force, and unleashing it in a productive way...Capricorn.

So as we approach all transits, including Pluto in Capricorn, it's good to have a flexible mind, and to remember that the events are orchestrated and unfold correctly.

19/2/07 5:24 PM  
Blogger Kadimiros said...

"This is a big one. One that many readers would say will have dire consequences. trouble with the law, violence, underhanded dealings, underworld trouble, and the usual fearful predictions. All possible, of course."

Gee...I think I was entering high school back when I had Pluto square to Mars. I guess that counts.

19/2/07 7:04 PM  
Blogger jm said...

LOL!!!!!!

That counts in a big way! Spare me that brutality!

19/2/07 7:13 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I can't imagine what Pluto would do with YOUR Mars.

19/2/07 7:13 PM  
Blogger Kadimiros said...

But I have a close Mars-Pluto trine in my chart. Maybe that takes the edge off. And a bit of Neptune at their pivot for balance. I like it.

19/2/07 7:15 PM  
Blogger jm said...

What a joy. A Mars/Pluto trine. Venus too. Sun too. In earth. What did you do right? Man, some people have all the luck.

19/2/07 7:18 PM  
Blogger Kadimiros said...

"It was represented in the middle ages in many relics of art depicting the rise and fall of man."

Interesting history behind the symbol!

There must be a strong connection, too, with the spinning wheel and other ancient wheels of destiny, such as the zodiac. I wonder if they had gambling games with wheels in Boethius' time.

19/2/07 7:22 PM  
Blogger jm said...

You know what kad? you are so right about the Neptune pivot. Ruler of your ASC. Exactly sextile your Venus. Such a nice guy.

Hidden in the eighth where regeneration is always going on. No wonder you're such a successful dreamer, mystic, and of course, wizard.

19/2/07 7:23 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I wonder if they had gambling games with wheels in Boethius' time.

Yes. Yes. Yes!! The big gamble. Roulette.

My image of birth and the Ascendant is of a giant roulette wheel, and we jump in and take our chances. Every 2 hours the sign changes.

19/2/07 7:25 PM  
Blogger Jane said...

re: wheels

Jm, I went a'googlin the other night after you mentioned Buz Myers (who was unknown to me)... which led me to these people... friends and students of Buz...

Scroll down to the bottom of the page... she is into wheels big time! :-)

she

19/2/07 7:28 PM  
Blogger jm said...

That wheel is everywhere and think it arouses the excitement of life and it's unpredictable chances every time we see one. It really doesn't matter if there is predestination, since we experience the lack of predictability all the way through. We are wired for the jackpot!!

19/2/07 7:28 PM  
Blogger jm said...

"Went a'goolin"

Hahahahaha!!!

Buz was great. I'll check this out now.

19/2/07 7:30 PM  
Blogger Kadimiros said...

"What did you do right? Man, some people have all the luck."

Aw....I have no idea! Everyone has something nice that they bring in, I do think. I always loved walking around the classrooms to see what other students were doing with their artwork. It was more interesting to me than sitting at my station and working on my own projects.

I'm a little curious of the potential of that Pluto sextile-trine configuration. It seems so normal to me, maybe I don't realize that it's different for other people. The Neptune comes from spiritually oriented lifetimes, I think. Pluto is a little scary to contemplate, but it seems friendly enough within the overall configuration.

19/2/07 7:31 PM  
Blogger Kadimiros said...

"That counts in a big way! Spare me that brutality!"

Well, you may be right. I'm sure the whole thing gives me sensitivity to, as well as experience of, occasional brutality. I do feel a sense of spiritual protection, though. Maybe the Mercury-Saturn in Aquarius brings in a calm mental influence, and the ability to cope with chaotic circumstances.

19/2/07 7:39 PM  
Blogger jm said...

That's part of Pluto's MO. The spook factor. But he just got diminished, So there!

Everyone has something nice that they bring in,

Takes one to know one.

The Neptune is in Plutonian Scorpio and in the 8th as well, so this is added power.

In the unevolved this leads to altered states in a heavy way..drugs, insanity, things like that.
But for the 'advanced', it's a search and a use of spiritual power to the maximum. I had a 12th house Pluto who went to places to retrieve this power, that I wouldn't venture, nor would I interfere.

I think if you combine the watery depths with Pluto's underworld, you get the picture. Spirit beneath spirit. The core, the bottom. The trines and sextiles make it easy to draw upon and use.

Now the square to Aquarius, is another slight matter.

19/2/07 7:40 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Spiritual protection???

Moon joop. All the way through.

19/2/07 7:41 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Our eternal gratitude goes to Robert 'Buz' Myers, teacher, mentor and friend, who dedicated himself to the masterful application of the eight-phase cycle. His skill as a communicator, his quarterly publication Cycles for Daily Living with companion audio tapes and his book Getting "On-Time" With Your Life brought us fully into our lunar specialty.

Buz was one of the best, and from whom I learned in the beginning. He had a great combination of spiritual and practical.

One lecture he had us sit in a large CIRCLE!!!! according to our Ascendants. It was fabulous. He was brilliant. Just plain good.

19/2/07 7:45 PM  
Blogger Kadimiros said...

"In every age 'the good old days' were a myth."

That reminds me of a quotation gracing the frontmatter of the yoga book I am currently reading. The passage first appeared in For the Time Being by Annie Dillard. It goes:

"There were no formerly heroic times, and there was no formerly pure generation. There is no one here but us chickens, and so it has always been: a people busy and powerful, knowledgeable, ambivalent, important, fearful, and self-aware; a people who scheme, promote, deceive and conquer; who pray for their loved ones, and long to flee misery and skip death. It is a weakening and discoloring idea, that rustic people knew God personally once upon a time–or even knew selflessness or courage or literature–but that it is too late for us. In fact, the absolute is available to everyone in every age. There never was a more holy age than ours, and never less."

19/2/07 7:45 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Maybe the Mercury-Saturn in Aquarius brings in a calm mental influence, and the ability to cope with chaotic circumstances.

Oooooohhh that sounds good to a Mrecury/Uranus/Mars.

19/2/07 7:46 PM  
Blogger jm said...

What a gorgeous gorgeous quote kad. I so agree.

It is a weakening and discoloring idea, that rustic people knew God personally

Oh how I concur. That's a brave statement. To call it a weakening, which I believe. We should never underestimate ourselves this way. We got here by process.

19/2/07 7:50 PM  
Blogger jm said...

It is a weakening and discoloring idea

Oh that's beautiful. I like whoever this is.

19/2/07 7:51 PM  
Anonymous Joe said...

Profound quote indeed. Thank you Kad for sharing it.

19/2/07 7:51 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Annie Dillard. Will keep her around.

19/2/07 7:53 PM  
Blogger jm said...

There were no formerly heroic times, and there was no formerly pure generation

I must dwell here and savor this.

We are the heroes. This is the end of Saturn in Leo which is this lesson. We are the stars of our own lives. Each one of us is on a mythic journey.

And now Neptune is in opposition and the wise among us will realize our personal significance, outside of any comparison or contrast to anyone now or in history.

19/2/07 8:00 PM  
Blogger Kadimiros said...

"Now the square to Aquarius, is another slight matter."

Oh yes? Got to have some creative tension. It's a good thing.
;-)

Perhaps it keeps me from going off the extreme ends, on either side. I have to apply at least some awareness to stay in balance.

Though the Moon/Jupiter, etc., there seem effective in an automatic way. I have had the occasional dreams about planetary transits, especially with the transiting Moon. I suspect that it brings subtleties to conscious attention.

19/2/07 8:09 PM  
Blogger Kadimiros said...

"We got here by process."

For art people, process is a goddess!

19/2/07 8:11 PM  
Blogger Kadimiros said...

You're welcome, joe! Writers create such a magnificient river of continuity for the culture to evolve. I do think they are underappreciated.

19/2/07 8:15 PM  
Blogger Kadimiros said...

"Each one of us is on a mythic journey."

And let the wise man and the fool complete each other on the wheel. :-)

19/2/07 8:17 PM  
Blogger Kadimiros said...

"I hear the pitch of the car horns and I love it. Sometimes it's overwhelming, but mostly it's the sound of activity. There's some joy, some desperation, a little of everything."

Hmm....I sense something like a song or poem in that somewhere.

19/2/07 8:19 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I suspect that it brings subtleties to conscious attention.

Yes. Good thought. Mixed with the Neptune, subtleties are always arriving.

The Moon is security and comfort too, so Moon joops have spiritual comfort automatically and also dispense it. They don't even question belief in god and they trust the benevolence.

19/2/07 8:21 PM  
Blogger jm said...

For art people, process is a goddess!

The goddess!!! I knew someone special was here.

Writers create such a magnificient river of continuity for the culture to evolve. I do think they are underappreciated.

The best ones are. Another beautiful phrase. They do flow. What a reverence you have for them.

Hmm....I sense something like a song or poem in that somewhere.

You did it again!!!! I had one I wrote years ago and I was going to post it. About distant horns.

And let the wise man and the fool complete each other on the wheel. :-)

Do let them. Yes.

19/2/07 8:26 PM  
Blogger Kadimiros said...

Speaking of music, an acoustic god has posted a question in the "Saturn and Success" thread.

20/2/07 6:54 PM  
Blogger Kadimiros said...

Ah, nevermind, I see you're getting to it in the next thread up. :-) You're on a roll!

20/2/07 6:59 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Kad! Thanks! you're such a help.

20/2/07 9:58 PM  

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