Thursday, June 14, 2007

A Literary Moon

George Bernard Shaw. A Gemini Rising.
New Moon in Gemini, the sign of language and communication. This lunation will include a Full moon in serious Capricorn. The Capricorn Moon will trigger a response from Saturn in Leo as he's making his grand exit, and the question of writing skill will surely be up for review in Blogland. How serious will our brilliant comments be? This amazing invention has spawned a collection of writers that no one knew existed, including themselves. The United States loves language with her Mars in Gemini and she must be a proud motherland now. Her human children are writing like madmen.
The Saturn combination with Gemini (Mercury) is commonly seen in successful writer's charts. Saturn-Mercury aspects, Saturn in Gemini, Mercury in Capricorn, Saturn in the 3rd house, Gemini Midheaven, Mercury in the tenth house, ruler of the tenth in the third, ruler of the third in the tenth. Saturn is orderly system creation, and when contacting Mercury, thoughts go through his logical structure on the way to expression. He slows down the process enough to even allow people to make sense! There can also be an air of authority, skill, and confidence in the writing styles of these Saturn-Mercuries. He gives substance and weight to the flighty winged messenger. And sometimes a sparseness that makes for natural editing. One problem, however, can be too much hesitation, and a loss of spontaneity.
What makes a good writer?
This, of course, is subjective. I'm a lover of poetic prose, so complicated, long winded, convoluted, intellectual texts offer me no satisfaction. I've found that most concepts can be explained either way, and most of them in one or two paragraphs rather than a complete book. But some people love to follow authors through their gray matter mazes. I'm prone to headaches, so I like it short, sweet, and to the point. There are a very few writers, though, that resonate with my pleasure receptors so much that I can stay with them forever. I do love a great story. Still, I wonder if there are universal standards and excellence in writers that can't be missed.
I am fascinated and delighted by the myriad ways in which the same words of a language can be blended to produce such diverse effects. The combinations are infinite, as this busy god of the word flies nonstop to connect thoughts to their destinations, people to people, everyone to everything. The connective tissue of the universe.

You all know how much I love the sign of Gemini. Keep your rolling balls inked!

48 Comments:

Anonymous Analysa said...

¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡SPLASH!!!!!..........hmmmmmm..................................¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡SPLASH!!!!!!!!!!...............................................ahhhhhhhh.......................ohhhhhh........................¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡SPLASH!!!!!!!!!!!...................haaaaaaaaaaa...............................................





Analysa´s mind taking a relaxing swim at RU.

14/6/07 9:30 AM  
Anonymous Analysa said...

¡¡¡¡SPLASH!!!!!....hmmmmmm.......
.....¡¡¡¡¡¡SPLASH!!!!!!!!!!......
...........ahhhhhhhh.............
....ohhhhhh....¡¡¡¡SPLASH!!!!....
.....haaaaaaaaa..................




Analysa´s mind taking a relaxing swim at RU, ONCE more.


(MERC-Rx vibes interfering already)

14/6/07 9:37 AM  
Blogger Joy Shayne said...

Hi, Jm,

ShineThe Light here with a new ID and Gmail account to circumvent this silly Blogger Comment function - wouldn't recognize me at all this AM!

Spot on, about the Mercury-Saturn relationship in the writing process and the writers' mind. my Merc and Saturn are conjunct: Merc at Sag 29 and Saturn at Cap 1. Natal Saturn is trine my natal Pluto, and of course Sag 29 is Pluto's barstool at the moment, basking in the light of the Galactic Center.

Structure of a story is paramount for my creative process. Often the structure comes first, the timepoints on the route if you will. The delicious adventure in writing, then, is the journey from point A to B to Z.

I stand baffled by writers who just keep going without knowing where their story is headed. I suppose it works for them - their planetary powers must support that way of doing it!

Cheers

14/6/07 1:20 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Joy! Oh I'm so glad. What a great name! Leave it to a writer.

This is interesting.
I have a packed Gemini third house and great writing talent, but no Saturn. I can't even begin to imagine threading together a whole novel. I ended up being a songwriter, but I've always loved poetry and essays as well. It's amazing how innate our abilities are.

I've always been entranced the idea of writing novels because of the imaginary people that become so real, and how we can develop their characters in any way we choose. Does this affect your own development, do you think?

I can see now how a sort of Saturnian blueprint creates the matrix for a long story. Really fascinating. When I write songs, with Uranus involved, there is no structure. The words come with the music as a I play the tune repeatedly.

And for all you curious minds reading this, joy just won second place in a national contest with her first novel. At the end of the comment thread here is the synopsis of the story. It's a winner. For some reason, I feel pride as well.

Congratulations and welcome again, joy. What a big moment.

14/6/07 2:12 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The larger issue, and maybe part of the reason why this resonates with me, is this.

The Capricorn years are close. I have most of my planets below the horizon and live in a private world. I have talent. I always dreamed about worldly success but never quite had the motivation to pursue it seriously, being reluctant in some way to go for outside validation. I never attracted Capricorns.

But now, Pluto is going to revolutionize my life and reach my midheaven in Capricorn. Everything looks different and when I see that someone has Capricorn planets my antennae perk up. An entirely new reaction.

What I think they have to teach me is that public validation can be a wonderful experience. My reaction to your award, joy, was just that. Pure joy.

It's a fascinating turn of events and verifies my belief in timing. Another Capricorn area of expertise.

This makes the cardinal elements in me (Cancer/Aries/Cap MC) excited about the changes ahead. I don't ever recall being so in tune with a Pluto change of signs.

14/6/07 2:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi JM,

I have been a regular visitor to your site for a few weeks now. And though it’s not like me to comment on a blog, I feel so compelled to speak to you that I can no longer resist.

I’ve only begun to learn about Astrology and the whole metaphysical realm and it just changes everything I thought I knew. It really just blows me away to learn who I am (which I’ve tried for years to do through religion and psychology) just by looking at a map of the sky on the day I was born.

I love the way you use Astrology here with your focus on inner growth. I’ve never met anyone who really wants to look so deeply into the soul and understand what is happening there and how it relates to the big picture. I love your way of seeing. Sometimes I feel like Helen Keller must have felt when she finally understood that her teacher was actually communicating in her hand. The veil is lifting.

I’ve always had this deep need to know the reality behind this physical screen we call life on this earth. (Is that SN in Scorpio? It’s in my 2nd house – a little twist I wouldn’t mind hearing you explain.) It’s as though my head has always been way “out there” with my feet barely planted here on earth. To me, knowing/understanding is food – Gemini Moon in the 9th?

The other day I had a mental picture of your blog as a big round table full of exciting and wonderful dishes. Someone asked if you’d ever been a teacher and I think that’s exactly what you are. You and the other wise ones here serve it up daily in your blog. I feel like a beggar at your table. I know so little. But I’m oh, so glad to have found you in my path.

Thank you for being there,
Sandy

14/6/07 3:07 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Sandy! Welcome to Raging Universe with a huge hug. What a glorious comment. And a Gemini Moon in the 9th!!! I'm in heaven. I love this Moon as much as my own Sag Moon in the 9th.

The Moon defines our mood all of our lives. Gemini is a lucky one. Very very emotionally resilient. A wondrous emotional body.

I am so glad you decided to speak up under this Gemini New moon!

Sometimes I feel like Helen Keller must have felt when she finally understood that her teacher was actually communicating in her hand. The veil is lifting.

This is precious and beautifully said. I think a lot about Helen and feel she depicts the story for all of us.

I am almost unable to describe my love of astrology and the benefits of understanding life from a metaphysiacal perspective. I am on a life-long crusade. Pluto in Sagittarius brought me out on my path of the spiritual zealot. So here I am at the world's beck and call.

The last paragraph about the roundtable gave me goose bumps. The beggar image is a big one for me. I feel that always, as every crumb of wisdom and knowledge comes to me.

Another SN Scorpio. We've assembled for good reason. I would love to add your chart to the rountable if you so desire.
This Saturn in Leo with Venus is bringing out the love in many of us.

Your heartfelt comment is a joy and welcome once again to Raging Universe.
Wow.

14/6/07 3:27 PM  
Blogger jm said...

It really just blows me away to learn who I am (which I’ve tried for years to do through religion and psychology) just by looking at a map of the sky on the day I was born.

I love this too and it's very important. I often decry the failure of these practices to really connect the person with herself. Too many ulterior motives. Other people and entities. I don't counsel for these reasons. The objectivity of the chart is it's ace. It's between the person and herself. The best path I know to self knowlegde.

I want most of all to help people learn how to read their own charts and interpret their characteristics themselves. As far as events, we all know instinctively where we are going and when.

Boy, I can feel the Merury-Saturn already.

14/6/07 3:33 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Oh, and sandy. On the question of the Scorpio SN and the reality behind the screen...yes. But most of all, the Moon in the 9th house, and the search for cosmic connection. I can go into it in depth now or later, if you want me to see your chart. What fun.

Here are the Node articles.

SN in Scorpio

NN in Taurus

14/6/07 3:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is my date with destiny:
3-16-48
6:40 pm
Decatur, Illinois

I'd love to say more, but have to run now. You're sweet.
More later,
Sandy

14/6/07 4:46 PM  
Blogger jm said...

OMG! Another Saturn-Pluto in Leo.

Thanks sandy!

Later.......
.......
.....

I think eternity is somewhere here.

14/6/07 5:05 PM  
Blogger jm said...

And more Gemini-Capricorn.
These people are smart. From my paper today:

Meeting: June 14. The secret Lives of Writers Salon

Marci Alboher will be a guest of The Lighthouse Writers Workshop. Marci will lead a panel of local writers in this provocative discussion of whether an author should give it all up for her art of whether there's room for a shower and flush toilet(in other words: a day job) in the writer's life.

I bet they'll come up with something.

14/6/07 5:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for the warm welcome JM. I hope to stay and visit for awhile. There is so much really good stuff here – so much to absorb.

You are right about the Nodes in my chart. My life has read exactly like that. The first 20 or so years were awful – really awful. After that, it got steadily better. I have learned so much and changed so much. Sometimes I can’t believe how different I am and how far I’ve come. It seems like I’ve lived three lives already in just this one. And now I feel something new coming. Astrology and the internet have opened a brand new door for me and it seems like a fresh, new, open, beautiful, hopeful world. Taurus NN, thank God, that’s just what I need. I want peace and beauty in my life.

"I am almost unable to describe my love of astrology and the benefits of understanding life from a metaphysiacal perspective."

I haven’t had the benefit of astrologic (is that a word?) knowledge, nor have I known the word metaphysical for very long either, but I’ve had some kind of “otherworldly” perspective all my life. I always thought of it as God and like Analysa mentioned in one of her posts, I’ve heard or felt what I call “the wise one” talking to me for many years. Though I was afraid to believe it was real half the time.

"On the question of the Scorpio SN and the reality behind the screen...yes. But most of all, the Moon in the 9th house, and the search for cosmic connection."

Yes, exactly. The cosmic connection.

"The last paragraph about the roundtable gave me goose bumps. The beggar image is a big one for me. I feel that always, as every crumb of wisdom and knowledge comes to me."

And that would be Moon in the 9th also?

"I want most of all to help people learn how to read their own charts and interpret their characteristics themselves. As far as events, we all know instinctively where we are going and when. "

Yes, I’ve noticed that and I like this very much about you. And what you say about religion and psychology practices – yes, yes. I kept what I thought was worth something and tossed the rest out. Then I wait for wisdom to lead me to the next step.

"On the question of the Scorpio SN and the reality behind the screen...yes. But most of all, the Moon in the 9th house, and the search for cosmic connection. I can go into it in depth now or later, if you want me to see your chart. What fun."

I’d like it very much if you went into it in depth whenever you have the time. I’d appreciate it greatly.

Sandy

14/6/07 8:55 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I'm all yours sandy. I was deeply touched by your comment and know you have a lot to contribute.

Yes! Astrologic is a word and I love it!

All of us SN Scorpios have had these horrendous experiences. Usually extremely painful family scenarios that go way back. We are different from others in that we are weary and more prepared for peace than most. The others still have to learn from these horrors and it seems like they dominate the atmosphere.
So fitting in can be hard, and also, releasing ourselves from the addiction to suffering.
The Moon in Gemini is a great gift in getting away from this visceral pain. You can use it to its best advantage especially after the Pluto opposition that just occurred.

The Moon is our emotional response to life and our fundamental feeling of safety. The Moon in the 9th feels comfort from cosmic connection and a deep feel for the knowledge. Very very natural. It helps us endure everything and anything. We can always see life philosophically. A great benefit. We can also feel comfort in the family of man, getting along with all types of people. There is an intimacy with everyone, and an emotional connection to God, as well. Very good placement for the moon.

I'll look at your chart in depth tonight. I already see that it's a great one. Mars, Saturn, Pluto in Leo trine Jupiter in Sagittarius. Jeeeze!

I was born a few months after you and we share a big thing in common. Pluto square our nodes. This is a long story and I will tell you all.

On to the chart room!

14/6/07 9:58 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Fantastic chart. A humanitarian and lots of leadership skill, although an odd kind with Neptune in the 1st and confusion about direction. You might need personal leadership in relationship, so you can go on and guide the collective. The inspirational flame is yours to use. Powerful. Group destiny. Social improvement skills. You have all the air signs and love of humanity. Very very interesting Leo stellium square your nodes and the answer to the emotional hurts of your life. There is tremendous ability to detach and be objective. To get free of possessiveness and manipulation from others, bondage, money games, forgiveness of, or detachment from abuses, etc.

Mercury in Aquarius trine Uranus in Gemini. The genius aspect. Lightning quick insights, ability to see tangents, extremely creative thinking, and scientific skill, as well as musical talent in some cases. And very original. there can be some rebelliousness and high strung madness(I have some of that!) It is an overactive but exciting mind.

I'll get into a little more in a bit, but this is most interesting. Right now Pluto is exactly conjunct your Jupiter at 27 Sagittarius. This is important. I had it a couple of years ago and it will affect your whole outlook on life and improve your philosophical understanding. This is the perfect, and I mean perfect time for metaphysics. Teachers come to us often with these transits, but the teacher is you. Pluto just opposed your Uranus and it's on mine now, freeing us from bondage, and unleashing self expression, the most important thing in your life.

have been a regular visitor to your site for a few weeks now. And though it’s not like me to comment on a blog, I feel so compelled to speak to you that I can no longer resist.

Exactly on time. Jupiter is in your 3rd house of communication and the dam has broken, thank god. Uranus is in your 9th of higher knowledge.

You have so much to say. I want to hear it all.

Raging Universe is drawing many people who have expressive talent. We Saturns have been holding it in, but no longer. I think as we encourage one another to let ourselves go, not only will we grow and enjoy our "date with destiny" (one of my favorite phrases), but everyone around us will benefit as well.

Wonderful chart. And all backed up by that wise Sun in Pisces. More on the Jupiter-Uranus opposition next.

14/6/07 11:13 PM  
Blogger meristem said...

The sharing of dreams lately and the question of what makes a writer and all the love flowing around here has been resonating with me.
I had two dreams recently in which my elephant was not well and was being taken away.
I also have the strongest urge to take the next month off from bodywork and go to stay with a best friend in one of my favorite towns to attend a new clown school that has been started and to spend the time writing also. To let my creative spirit play, let my weary body rest.
I feel both like dirty rumpled bedsheets that need laundering and used coffee grounds from which someone is trying to make a cup of coffee........
The writer in me is rearing her head back in a roar. She wants some attention. I want to spend some time devoted to her, seducing her, getting to know her, letting her speak.
And my intuition is so strong about this scenario that it breaks my heart. Someone or some opportunity will come into my life, one that I want if I follow.

But I am scared. To death.
No money to take time off, just bought a new house, and I can already hear my mom's voice in my head, "you just bought a house, you can't take a month off!" the weight of it, her voice, makes me wither.......

Geez, I don't know what came over me. Next thing I know I've just spilled my guts!
Well, thanks for this sacred almighty space!
And all the strength and beauty that is here.....

15/6/07 6:22 AM  
Blogger Sandy said...

"I'm all yours sandy. I was deeply touched by your comment and know you have a lot to contribute."

Thanks JM. I knew I should come here, if for no other reason than to thank you for the food you’re putting on the table. I felt guilty taking so much without letting you know how important it is to me.

Before I continue though, I need a little help with the protocol here. I’ve gotten an account with blogger so I hope my post will say Sandy said… Cool, it does.

So next, how do you do the quotes in italics?

Last question…
Do I continue commenting here or go to your latest post to carry on?

15/6/07 9:48 AM  
Anonymous Analysa said...

Analysa sits down quietly. Sipping some hot tea, she listens attentively to the conversations. She is enjoying all the new guests with their stories, questions and insights.

15/6/07 12:55 PM  
Blogger Analysa said...

This comment has been removed by the author.

15/6/07 1:30 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Meristem! You poor Virgos and the drudgery of it all. What's one lousy month in a whole lifetime????

Remember our talks about the SN Virgo desire to go off away from mundane responsibility and live a life of freedom? One month of laughter? Is that too much? Especially with Venus in Leo for so long.

I had two dreams recently in which my elephant was not well and was being taken away.

This interests me. Going to think about it.

As far as money goes, welcome to altered state Neptune land where money is entirely abstract if it's there at all.

15/6/07 2:20 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Sandy, analysa. Yay!! You're blue!

Italics: Funny. Last night I thought about you and this.

This goes in front of your quote.
First: <
Next:i
Next: >

This goes at the end:
First: <
Next: /
Next: i
Last: >

15/6/07 2:24 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I felt guilty taking so much without letting you know how important it is to me.

But you did perfectly express how important it is to you.

One stipulation here. I would love it if guilt were kept at a minimum. There are plenty of places for that. It really does get excessive.

And get this. In the last days, one Jupiter in leo, 2 Marses in leo, One saturn in leo, and one Pluto in leo have arrived. Is there a message here? Thank you ever so much, Venus.

15/6/07 2:31 PM  
Blogger Sandy said...

Lots to think about here. Thanks for all your insights JM.

Pluto in Sagittarius brought me out on my path of the spiritual zealot. So here I am at the world's beck and call.

I’m glad he brought you out and gave you the courage to speak. I think that becoming aware of the spiritual path is the key to life here. Without that focus, life can become way too dark and confusing.

All of us SN Scorpios have had these horrendous experiences. Usually extremely painful family scenarios that go way back.

Yes. And I thought for years that I must be a horrible person because all these things happened to me. So I had to deal with that too. I’ve always known I was different. I think most people find me too serious, too strange, or too threatening to their own way of thinking. But I can’t help it. I’ve tried to fit in, but I can’t. That was part of my reluctance to expose myself here. But the more you said about your own chart, the more I felt called.

My life has been like that. I feel fated, pulled and sometimes dragged into things. I know you say – and I agree – that we decide our own way. I am responsible for it. But there are two people in my head. One who’s afraid to do anything and one who says let’s go. So, I often fight it and require extraordinary assurance that I am “supposed” to go there. Sometimes it seems like I’ve gotten myself stuck on a very fast roller coaster and I can’t get off. It’s scary, but it usually turns out just right even if I don’t see it at the time. If that weren’t so, I wouldn’t have spoken here – no way.

The Moon in the 9th feels comfort from cosmic connection and a deep feel for the knowledge. Very very natural. It helps us endure everything and anything. We can always see life philosophically.

I’m grateful for that moon. It has gotten me out of some tough places.

I was born a few months after you and we share a big thing in common. Pluto square our nodes. This is a long story and I will tell you all.

I’m thrilled. Please do tell all. I’ve got that whole stellium square the nodes and the nodes are in their opposite houses and I don’t really know what that means. When you say leadership and group destiny it scares me, though. I fear leading people anywhere.

Pluto is exactly conjunct your Jupiter at 27 Sagittarius. This is important. I had it a couple of years ago and it will affect your whole outlook on life and improve your philosophical understanding. This is the perfect, and I mean perfect time for metaphysics.

This must be why I can feel something coming. I thought it was the Pluto squaring my Sun. I do have a lot to say. My life has been so strange. And now, it’s getting stranger. I don’t know what to think of it. But I am glad I found you.

Thanks for the help with the italics. I guess I better read up on HTML speak.

Also, Hi Analysa! I enjoyed your flea story very much. That's exactly how I think when things happen to me.

One stipulation here. I would love it if guilt were kept at a minimum. There are plenty of places for that. It really does get excessive.

Ok. No more guilt.

15/6/07 3:06 PM  
Blogger jm said...

That was part of my reluctance to expose myself here. But the more you said about your own chart, the more I felt called.

This is our Saturn-Pluto in Leo (fear of exposure, deep embarrassment)), and the key to your leadership calling. I will be back in a minute for more on this. Now is the time to face the obstruction with our 2nd Saturn returns. I know exactly what you are talking about.

Analysa, although sometimes unwilling to admit it, can help us with her Jupiter in Leo. Not to mention her ever active Mars. She might have put her clothes back on, but this is temporary.

15/6/07 3:27 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I always say about guilt and apology:

Save it for when I/you REALLY do something wrong

:o)

15/6/07 3:29 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Leo is spontaneous release of self, and when Saturn is there, the process is interrupted as the expression is slowed and required to go through Saturn's structure for judgement and perfecting. Leo alone expresses without fear and crticism. So this judgemental element often blocks expression altogether. If it does get past the wall, we are never satisfied and want to draw it back in and make it better.

Your Mars adds to the release impulse and causes big problems butting against Saturn.

There is an overall feeling of restraint in the trunk of the body as we long to feel relaxed and free to let ourselves go. And get over the humiliation and embarrassment. All Saturns want to shine in the spotlight but are always waiting in the wings while the lesser lights dominate.

The aim is to get us to love, admire and be comletely impressed with ourselves; to build a strong ego independent of others' opinions. From this comes the ability to inspire and lead. People always are drawn like moths to expressive Leo. With Saturn we feel we have something important to give. It takes a lot of time and practice. We just want to laugh, dance, even scream, as we express ourselves without inhibition, without fear of the firing squad shooting us down.

The end result is a perfect expression of self, filling us with healthy pride.

I'll do an article.

15/6/07 4:04 PM  
Blogger jm said...

When you say leadership and group destiny it scares me, though. I fear leading people anywhere.

I know this one completely. People have always wanted to follow me, but I've refused to let them. Didn't want the responsibility. Afraid of failing them. Liked my solitude and freedom.

But after this Saturn in Leo transit, people are without leadership. The political situation is the symbol. We've turned to ourselves to take up the slack. It looks like an entirely knew brand of guidance is coming in and with Pluto in Capricorn, the Saturns in our charts will be activated. Saturn in Leo, therefore, will likely be called into a more prominent role, especially the ones who have been in the wings.

Pluto in Capricorn will be a fantastic opportunity for individual achievement.

15/6/07 5:00 PM  
Blogger Sandy said...

This is our Saturn-Pluto in Leo (fear of exposure, deep embarrassment)), and the key to your leadership calling.

Deep embarrassment indeed! It's comforting that you know exactly what I'm talking about. It's too difficult to explain in words because there seems to be no logical reason for it. If I could fix it I would, but I don't know where it comes from. I suspect a past life.

I always say about guilt and apology:

Save it for when I/you REALLY do something wrong


Perhaps I should have said I felt selfish, greedy, starved or simply pressured to return something. But I didn't want to grovel too much :) Anyway, feeling the g word sometimes works to get my reluctance behind me - you know, thinking about the other person instead of my fear.

Leo is spontaneous release of self, and when Saturn is there, the process is interrupted as the expression is slowed and required to go through Saturn's structure for judgement and perfecting.

Yes, yes. I see that happening in me all the time. I don't want to say or do the wrong thing. I spend such a long time thinking about how to say something that I get a headache. Yes, I'm never satisfied and feel I haven't made myself clear.

The aim is to get us to love, admire and be comletely impressed with ourselves; to build a strong ego independent of others' opinions. From this comes the ability to inspire and lead.

I don't know that I could go with this. Maybe it's just a matter of words and definitions, but to me Ego is not a thing I want to cultivate. From my experience, Ego always gets me into trouble. Ego thinks the other is really an other and it can somehow be better, more, etc. I think if I cultivate Spirit - that part of me that incarnated and is not of the body or the earth, the eternal part that knows and thinks like the "wise one" then I could perhaps help my fellow beings and therefore be successful in all I do. It is my goal anyway, to think in these terms because I believe we are all essentially the same and looking for the same thing. Not all on the same level of understanding perhaps, but all on the same path to the same destination. Of course, this is easier said than done.

People have always wanted to follow me, but I've refused to let them. Didn't want the responsibility. Afraid of failing them. Liked my solitude and freedom.

Yes again. But I thought that was Uranus. I really don't like being responsible for others either and for the same reason as you. I dislike anyone becoming too dependent on me. It feels like being in prison. I can see myself as one of many, but not as one over many. I squirm.

But after this Saturn in Leo transit, people are without leadership. The political situation is the symbol. We've turned to ourselves to take up the slack. It looks like an entirely knew brand of guidance is coming in and with Pluto in Capricorn, the Saturns in our charts will be activated. Saturn in Leo, therefore, will likely be called into a more prominent role, especially the ones who have been in the wings.

Yes, I think you are right about the political situation. I think we all need a new spiritual vision and a larger view of God/the Source/Universe or whatever you want to call it. The world is crowded. We can't think of ourselves as us and them any more. If we hurt others, we hurt ourselves. But when I read the news, I feel it is such an impossible task to get anyone to listen. If often feels so hopeless. So I hope you are right about Pluto in Cap and the bright new day ahead. I do so hope for it.

15/6/07 7:10 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I don't want to say or do the wrong thing. I spend such a long time thinking about how to say something that I get a headache.

EGGSaxctly!

I dislike anyone becoming too dependent on me. It feels like being in prison. I can see myself as one of many, but not as one over many. I squirm.

The squirm is the clue. This is the dilemma:

Leo has to feel superior in some way. She's the Queen and she rules, not for reasons of achievement, but because she is born to that high position. We are taught that this is bad. Not in all cases. For some our path to fulfillment is owning this elevated position and using it to guide properly. People have to look up to and admire their leaders. If we don't have confidence, everyone loses. And often the monarchical feelings backfire in unpleasenct scenarios personally. They need to express.
And with Saturn, it is backed by achievement and dignity.

The problem in your case is the 11th house placement of the 'we the people' democrat. Leo is the auotocrat. Of course you see everybody's equality, but someone has to shine and be an example. Mars, Saturn, and Pluto in Leo is the elected one. You will always be fair so there's nothing to fear.

I can see myself as one of many, but not as one over many. I squirm.
This really says it so well. Had to repeat it.

It's very difficuly to walk up onstage from the crowd with this configuration. But why do you have all this shiny Leo? Why should it go to waste?

What I've found is this. As I develop confidence and find an audience my skills and my character develop exponentially. The more people respect me, the better I get, and the more they get.

So many Saturns in Leo apologize for even existing. We have a long way up!
Leo is a grand, elegant, mighty energy.

15/6/07 7:49 PM  
Blogger jm said...

The deepest part is the fear and embarrassment about the self that blocks the pure joy of spontaneous fun. The humiliation accompanying self expression. The fear of personal power.

If I had another life, I feel like I was murdered for expressing myself (Pluto). My fear has been much greater than circumstance indicated.

The Saturn-Plutos are unique, only 2 and 1/2 years of them, and their power urges and desire for attention are as much as anyone can have.

Just a planet in Leo is enough to have this need to stick out and illuminate the environment, but Pluto adds immeasurable power. Saturn gives the chance to do it to perfection.

It doesn't really matter. Any of us can stuff the urge and shrink from the light, but something big will be missing.

15/6/07 7:58 PM  
Blogger jm said...

So I hope you are right about Pluto in Cap and the bright new day ahead. I do so hope for it.

Hope alone isn't enough. We visionaries have to DO something. Esecially when we see the tiny slot open. The brightness will exist some places, not in others. It should exist around us. Kind of a Saturn in Leo responsibility.

The political baton is being passed to the people to some extent.

Saturn-Pluto in Leo feels a special destiny but she has to give solid evidence.

15/6/07 8:05 PM  
Blogger meristem said...

Oui, jm, vous avez raison.
Let me cut these shackles from my south node in Virgo and tether myself to a glorious bouquet of helium balloons!

Sandy, your eloquence and perception are truly breathtaking!

15/6/07 8:14 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Meristem! multicolored?

I will watch you fly above and admire your lightness of being.

Sounds like that withering voice of your mother is your over practical SN speaking!

You can sneak a moment of joy. My lips are sealed.

15/6/07 8:23 PM  
Blogger Joy Shayne said...

Meristem,

There are lots of ways the house can be taken care of for a month.

Sublet for a month. Advertise on Craig's List or a site for vacation rentals. Often PhD students need a place away from home to work on their dissertations. Even if just one bedroom, the kitchen, bath and living room are usable, that would be enough to bring in a tenant.

Tell the Universe, sincerely and from the heart, "Take care of this - I need to play!"

15/6/07 10:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think both "give it all up" and "shower and job" are necessary elements to a writer's life. We need the stuff of life, showers and phones and people and computer and water coolers... to add to the compost, and then when the compost is hot, we retreat to the muck and we sift and we smell and we write. Also think that daily writing, one bit of compost at a time, 15 minutes more or less, is vital. Keeping the fingers moving, the brain engaged, like a piano is tuned.

At least, that is my experience. :-)

sige

16/6/07 5:08 AM  
Blogger Sandy said...

Thank you JM for the huge feast you have laid out for me. I have to think on this a bit and then get back to you.

Thank you too Meristem for the compliment. You are the expert on Eloquence. So I blush to hear you say it.

16/6/07 11:24 AM  
Blogger jm said...

Sandy, all of this is me trying to reason with myself, with my Saturn, too. It's been a long conscious struggle and now with the 2nd return almost over I want to use it. Enough is enough.
I'm ready for some self confidence, especially since Joy came just at this time with her simple Capricorn recipe.

Just do it and send it out!

16/6/07 12:16 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Oh, and sandy. In answer to your question about where to post.
Wherever you want to.

16/6/07 1:43 PM  
Blogger Sandy said...

Ok, I think I’ll stay here and post. There is still much to be said and I hope you won’t be offended. I am pretty opinionated myself as the rest of my chart probably has told you already. But I don’t want to offend you or anyone else.

Sandy, all of this is me trying to reason with myself, with my Saturn, too. It's been a long conscious struggle and now with the 2nd return almost over I want to use it. Enough is enough.
I'm ready for some self confidence


Thank you for this. Let’s reason together. I think I understand why I felt so much tension yesterday. I had to pull away to think clearly.

First of all, I think you are right about my Leo constellation and what it means. I think I’ve said it twice, that I know something is coming – some new thing in my life. I can feel it. But I’ve just discovered this and don’t yet see how or what or when. And part of my entering your scene here was because of that feeling. So I know I’m going to cross that bridge just as soon as I have some idea what I’m doing.

Next, about Leo, Ego and Leadership: our fearless leader in Washington has Leo rising and three planets in Leo – one of which is Pluto. And he is nothing but Ego. His head is so fat with his own importance that nothing else can enter it. He started a war so he could be a War President – which is so much more important and powerful than being just a regular president you know. That’s what I meant when I said ego. And I want none of that.

I don’t think that’s what you mean though. I think you mean self-confidence. Which we all need and I believe is not only good, but essential to do anything well. I think we can have confidence when we know our subject and act out of principles and ideals – integrity. My confidence can be in that and because of that - in myself, but not the other way around. I’m not sure I’m explaining this very well.

But why do you have all this shiny Leo? Why should it go to waste?

I don’t really know why, I don’t know a lot of things. But I am the eternal student. I always try to learn what everything means and how to deal with it.

The fear of personal power – that’s a biggy. The fear of ego blowing my head up. The fear of leading people astray. The fear of hurting others whether intentional or not. Having power is not a privilege it’s a responsibility. I learned this raising two kids and from lots of people who had power and shouldn’t have. I don’t need any more bad karma.

If I had another life, I feel like I was murdered for expressing myself (Pluto). My fear has been much greater than circumstance indicated.

Yes, you probably led the French Revolution. You must have a lot of fire in your chart. I really do like you, I hope you can see that. I guess I knew somewhere inside me that I needed to deal with the same thing you’re dealing with and that’s what led me here.

So now that I’m aware of this, I have to do something about it. I can only stuff things I’m not aware of. Incidentally, last week I was thinking about someone who is too dependent on me and a thought popped in my head. “Turn off the lights and the moths will go away.” Ha

Joy is right on when she says “Tell the Universe, sincerely and from the heart, "Take care of this…”

16/6/07 9:10 PM  
Blogger meristem said...

Indeed, Sandy and Joy and JM. It is a thing I know well, both in my head and in my deepest being, that the Universe is here to help, to answer our heartful prayers and longings when they will help the soul evolve. Sometimes i think my seemingly superficial Virgo practical struggles are really trying to get me to look more deeply at what is fundamental and juicy and soul-satisfying. Like, if I am paralyzed at the thought of taking time off from work life (and money-earning) because I am already in substantial debt, then what do I ultimately need to reassess in the big picture? That is what this is about for me as much as whether it is meaningful and 'okay' to have fun and a month of free time.... At least that is what has come to me today.
Thanks for your support!
Lessons, always lessons... :)
Like Ida Rolf said, "where is is, it ain't" by which she meant that the pain is the symptom, not the problem......
*sigh*
now where are those balloons?

16/6/07 9:42 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Sandy, what a pleasure. I completely agree with your views on the ego. Saturn, which George Bush does not have, will prevent us from going overboard. It's a great setup for healthy ego and power. Your Mars is a little more problematic with its impulsiveness, possibly abrasiveness, but the Saturn will rule.

It's in the 11th house of the collective, but that doesn't necessarily mean a large public circle. It just means inspiration within whatever group you are a part of.

You are right. I am bursting with fire. We both are and fire is the spiritual element, contraray to what some think. Fire is the idealist and visionary who wants to make society the best, not through social work like air and water, but by example and true leadership. Emulating the gods.

You have it just in the way you speak with such fire and enthusiasm. You have 4 planets in fire and that's a lot. You also have a Cancer midheaven which means nurturing the public. Emotional security. And great sensitivity to public need.

The ruler of your Libra Rising is Venus and it joins the NN in Taurus in the 8th house and this is absolutely fantastic. Great endurance, fairness with power, and possibly money raising talent, which is a large part of political change.

The 11th house is a political destiny in some form and a deep concern for society's ills. I rarely see such strong planets there like you have.

I know full well the fears around leading others. I have to be forced, which I just was.

One big problem is the Neptune in the 1st and confusion about your own direction. This is not the same thing. You can still be lost but know what's best for others and society. You just need someone in your life to help you with personal direction.

I can tell by the way you speak how much caring for humanity you have. This is not common. Not the real thing.

Everytime I talk about the Leo attributes I make one more tiny step toward the fulfillment of my destiny.

So be prepared!!

16/6/07 9:53 PM  
Blogger jm said...

where is is, it ain't

I love it!!!!!

16/6/07 9:54 PM  
Blogger jm said...

Sandy, look. It just happened. You posted and the moths came. There really is an inspirational message in you.

16/6/07 9:55 PM  
Blogger jm said...

I really think we're on to something here. I don't ever recall being in such an interested and interesting aggregation.

Meristem, you have a practical money chart being a Taurus rising. Money is everything and Taurus is often in an out of debt, but it always works out. Taurus will make it so. Taurus has a money learning destiny.
So with that in mind, you can have fun anytime. The money thing is ongoing and nothing to ever be panicked about. In fact, getting used to a little debt ain't such a bad thing. Just try and get a discount on your balloons!

17/6/07 2:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

meristem,

Ida Rolf! LOL I've been "rolfed." I didn't think anyone remembered her anymore. Think she also said, "Put your back into it." :-)

Just wanted to say that I enjoy your posts. You speak in words and concepts that are familiar to me. I also write. I am also in debt. I struggle with finding time to write. I find this place stimulating for the ideas and people and concepts that are tossed around so easily by the regulars...

namaste! kj

17/6/07 4:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

kj = sige

17/6/07 8:36 AM  
Blogger meristem said...

Yes, money. The eathly embodiment of energy for exchange, a universal currency.
I have always been in and out of debt and so I know that everything will be okay, will even out, well, because it always has. But that doesn't mean it isn't stressful!
JM, your tidbit about Taurus is helpful to me, so thank you for that. It reinforces my inner observations about how I've always been with money and translates it into knowing, personal truth.
And that's the part that has been such a great gift for me from astrology (mostly the learning I've done here at the hands and hearts of you beautiful, wise souls): the reflection back to me of what I am, my own special architecture, how I am 'built'. Studying that architecture gives me peace because I come to understand it more fully and see the grace in it. I can find that my own particular design (the plans of me, my structure, on all levels) contains these or those challenges of withstanding the 'weather' and the 'gravity' of life (the houses and aspects)and also the special skills and flourishes and intricate fortifications or decorations of my particular 'building' that make me unique in the world.
Appreciating these elements allows me more strength and clarity in deciding how I want to navigate and express and choose. And the more I know, the more tools and options I have available to me....


Just wanted to say that I enjoy your posts. You speak in words and concepts that are familiar to me. I also write. I am also in debt. I struggle with finding time to write. I find this place stimulating for the ideas and people and concepts that are tossed around so easily by the regulars...

Sige, your comment and support and kindred shout-out were just what I needed. Thank you!
I've been in my lone wolf headspace this week, wandering through the forest and longingly looking into the warm bright light emanating from a cozy cabin window and knowing that I am not a part of that world.....
She incarnates in my psyche like that sometimes. But fear not, she also loves to play with the pack and can be the silliest, most loving one of the bunch!


JM, thank you again for this space. It is amazing to see what has grown here. Once you opened the floodgates, so many came rushing in! A wonderful and fecund community. And I like that none of us knows what the others look like.....how often is there so much connection experienced without the physical?
I love it!

17/6/07 10:25 AM  
Blogger jm said...

And that's the part that has been such a great gift for me from astrology (mostly the learning I've done here at the hands and hearts of you beautiful, wise souls): the reflection back to me of what I am, my own special architecture, how I am 'built'.

This is exactly how I feel meristem.
One of the best parts of knowing astrology for me has been the ability to see others for what they are and that they are doing what they're supposed to be doing. Me as well. This is freeing beyond measure.

I've been in my lone wolf headspace this week, wandering through the forest and longingly looking into the warm bright light emanating from a cozy cabin window and knowing that I am not a part of that world.....

Moon in Aries to the max. Lone wolf ahead of the pack. I, of course, have Aries rising, and I feel that the Aries needs to go off ahead to see what's there, since she is the scout, the guide, the leader in the wilderness and she has to know what's ahead for the group. She has to have an unobstructed view. Aries is 1, solo, and she has to unite with herself on a regular basis without distraction. Which leads to:

she also loves to play with the pack and can be the silliest, most loving one of the bunch!

More than anyone because she does it from pure want. And feels relief being back in the world she so often is at odds with.

And I like that none of us knows what the others look like.....how often is there so much connection experienced without the physical?
I love it!


I love it too. The direct mind to mind contact without all the sensory input is wonderful for me. I think people are better able to listen without being bombarded by so much. Plus the time warp so we can think about what we say and respond over time. Love this part.

They say that TV has taken away the picture making past of the brain's imagination and I think this might be introducing it again and stimulating our minds. Back to stories and myths. And the freedom from prejudice. Freedom to be who we want. Freedom to create ourselves anew.

A wonderful and fecund community

I'm thrilled with the enthusiasm for communication and self development. And I love the reduction in the usual painful social games I see.

I think this is all a seed for political growth and I am very hopeful. My affection for humanity has been inspired.

Great comment mersistem.

17/6/07 1:55 PM  

<< Home